weredrago2
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Depending on how you look at it, going to the afterlife is easy! The hard part is coming back.
probably the latter.
... alright, gonna stop for now, as Disney owns a lot of stuff... and I may end up spending quite a while making a list of every possible character that would be applicable to Gridlock that I want as possible cards.
You could also break it up into spoilers based on source material like the cards are classified?... actually, @weredrago2 and @Made in Heaven... if I happened to have some free time... would I actually be allowed to make a list like that? I'd break up into chunks, of course, so it wasn't just a massive wall of text.
That would work too. But replacing Hawk with a robot duplicate might well somehow help us accomplish our goals too. We could even make the switch with Hawk's collaboration- bribe him to set up in a different part of the country entirely and leave the duplicate behind.I thought the plan was to make Hawk a turncoat to profit off his intel into Cloverleaf with Doom none the wiser?
Those aren't real educational techniques. Those are torture techniques that pretend to be educational techniques. I'm talking about real educational techniques.At least some of which are ABA aka "Pavlovian indoctrination tailored towards people", unfortunately...
So I am a bit torn on that topic.
Unlikely to work. For all that he's Doom's intrigue master apparently, he really likes having his name up in big bold letters, especially on the buildings he puts up.bribe him to set up in a different part of the country entirely and leave the duplicate behind.
Those aren't real educational techniques. Those are torture techniques that pretend to be educational techniques. I'm talking about real educational techniques.
I wonder if Toffee's evil plan here wasn't anything specific, but just getting his influence into our borders? We know that Doof is unique in having declared himself a sovereign state - all the other Kings just exert massive influence over their domains.
Maybe Toffee was just trying to extend his influence into Doofania via his corn companies, and we were going to fall for it by not recognising that was his actual goal?
If so, we could feasibly counteroffer to buy his corn and corn-based products and sell it at slightly higher prices through our own companies, denying him the institutions through which to exert local influence. Though if that was his goal, he'd probably decline...
Seth Supplies would handle the corn distribution, delivery, and stocking,
It's not just our boarders though, we picked up the majority of the food production of the whole US with our crickets, which means that corn and influence would spread throughout US.
I don't trust the product not to be tainted in some way. Toffee isn't above committing what would be considered war crimes if it would get him an edge.I wonder if Toffee's evil plan here wasn't anything specific, but just getting his influence into our borders? We know that Doof is unique in having declared himself a sovereign state - all the other Kings just exert massive influence over their domains.
Maybe Toffee was just trying to extend his influence into Doofania via his corn companies, and we were going to fall for it by not recognising that was his actual goal?
If so, we could feasibly counteroffer to buy his corn and corn-based products and sell it at slightly higher prices through our own companies, denying him the institutions through which to exert local influence. Though if that was his goal, he'd probably decline...
He did taint the Wand with his influence already so he could do similar things with the corn to make them addictive and/or more suspectable for his influence via magic or slow magic acting poison.
With the tech we snagged, we should be able to easily implement growing exotic foods without any issues. Corn? A simple matter. But we can grow pineapples.We made a good deal of our good name in solving the food issue in our states. That bought us a lot of goodwill with the people. But now we have rejected a deal that would bring said people not only a lot more food, but higher quality food.
seems a bit unlikely as he doesn't gain much by accusing us of anything and theres no proof of said meeting. That and we can say we have plans already for food which is even true. Even if it will take a while.One thing to look out for though is now Toffee has a way to hit our reputation something fierce. We made a good deal of our good name in solving the food issue in our states. That bought us a lot of goodwill with the people. But now we have rejected a deal that would bring said people not only a lot more food, but higher quality food. He puts that out there and it would be trivial to twist our Good Samaritan image into one of a despot rejecting a deal that only has benifits to the people under our care to keep them reliant on us.
Considering Doon has also successfully hit our reputation and is still gunning for us enough to do so again we should probably do some actions to boost public approval next turn. It is a lot easier being a dictator when the people actualy like you.
He just needs to publicly announce the offer. When we do not accept it it is as good as rejecting it. And yes we have the options to grow more foods. Those would be part of the approval raising actions I said we should do.seems a bit unlikely as he doesn't gain much by accusing us of anything and theres no proof of said meeting. That and we can say we have plans already for food which is even true. Even if it will take a while.
in fairness he'd have to spend ap to use pr against us. Not sure if he thinks we are barely worth approaching much less ridiculing to spend time making an enemy of us.He just needs to publicly announce the offer. When we do not accept it it is as good as rejecting it. And yes we have the options to grow more foods. Those would be part of the approval raising actions I said we should do.
as for why he would do so there are several reasons. The first is spite. Not the most likely but always possible. But themain one is we have shown we will not cooperate with him. After all if we would not take such a seemingly good deal we obviously have information about him or are to paranoid to work with. As we will not work with him we are a rival and obstical. One he has a weapon he can use against us via PR. Why would he not use said weapon?
Clockwork is entirely right. Furthermore, it should be pointed out that while Flubber Power WOULD give us a public relations malus, it would also give us UNLIMITED (electrical) POWAAAAH and catapult TECHNOR, THE MECHANICAL MAN up to a Diplomacy 32 juggernaut.Possible more, since Lizzie added techs and Stanley's tech was around 100. This means, even if we do have her trait active, there is a 1/9 chance of her getting flubber power. And the other flubber offers a slight decrease at most.
In total that means her chances of accidentally hitting on Flubber Power is 1/54, or less than 2%. It is ridiculous to limit our research on a 2% chance that while it might suck, leaves us with recoverable options.
I agree with this too.Getting the AI tech let's us upgrade one of our primary combat resources. Let's us end Norm's obsession to get a good martial hero. Let's CJ grow enough to likely become a hero, and given her origin, likely an Admin focused one we badly need. Losing all this for a less than 2% chance is ridiculous.
If we had Flubber power, TECHNOR would immediately lose his 'Hungry for Power' malus and become our best possible spokesrobot for Flubber power.Can we put Technor on the PR campaign?
"I NEED MORE POWER! AND SO DO YOU!"
I think that would be a terrible waste of a valuable Learning 40 character.I mean, if we hold off on putting Ludivine on a Learning action this turn we can probably have her help Technor psychoanalyze Stanley. I mean, she's also a psychiatrist, so one of her Personal Actions may let her do the same thing as Technor.