lockingbane
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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
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- Crossover
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- USA
Doom is actively going after us.
Taking out his intrigue hero makes it harder for him to damage us and if we do it the legal way damages him instead. Its simultaneously a defensive and offensive action that buys us time to get a better response set up.
Right now our priorities are split in several directions. We are juggling and we just can't commit to crushing doom right now.
Depending on how the rolls this turn go we could probably start committing more to doom but if any of the important rolls go bad it might delay us a turn or two.
Taking out his intrigue hero makes it harder for him to damage us and if we do it the legal way damages him instead. Its simultaneously a defensive and offensive action that buys us time to get a better response set up.
Right now our priorities are split in several directions. We are juggling and we just can't commit to crushing doom right now.
Depending on how the rolls this turn go we could probably start committing more to doom but if any of the important rolls go bad it might delay us a turn or two.
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- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
It is cultural. It's considered to be a sign of great destiny. Guess that makes Dipper either a future astronaut, or a leader to a better future depending on how you interpret his sign
If you could find her and make the circumstances happen, I'd be in favor of it. By the end of the show, she was genuinely my favorite character.
Robo Hawk good for long term plans, like learning what happening in LA Underground, and what is Doom deal with Toffee. Expose Hawk action can stop his diplomacy from building on his initial success. Note that this time, we deal not only with his typical anti-toon agenda, but also pro-supers stance, which he can use to recruit capes, or attempt to make alliance with Shego, since he still think, that she is our most hated enemy. In the end I don't think that one choice clearly better than other, so I'll probably just vote for plan based on other factors, like who has []Look into wayward supers option or something.
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- USA
Hawk doesn't know about the LA underground. When he tried to investigate it he failed pretty bad.
And last we heard doom doesn't like Toffee because he thinks he is a toon.
Things might be different now but that what it was anyway.
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- Philippines
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- He/Him
Aye too want Eclipsa. She's going to be useful to us, Star and our occult heroes
But he attempted this investigation, so he knows at least something, maybe what ??? actual DC is, plus with his connections it will be easier for us. Since its Hawk home territory it's quite possible that for us current ??? DC higher than it was for Hawk.
I thought that Doom think Toffee is toon, is just thread assumption, was it confirmed somewhere?
Eh, to be honest, almost every single queen beyond Jushtin (and a few specialized spells of each queen) generally made their spells off the cuff, like that time one of the queens tried to end her abusive marriage by creating a "break his heart" spell so he would divorce her except it literally broke his heart. He died screaming on the floor from internal bleeding
Star's problem is that she has no attention span for learning utility-based spells, as her magical evaluation with that cat-thing shows. She likes things that are cute, things that are deadly, and things that are cute and deadly, but simply doesn't have the patience to learn things that don't catch her attention. She gets better at that later on when she starts taking her responsibilities more seriously, but I doubt that "later on" happened here given that the divergence was probably early on.
Per the magical instructor in S2 Episode 30. " "Star is nowhere near your skill level at her age... she's far beyond it. In fact, I haven't seen anything like this... since Queen Eclipsa."
Star always came off to mea as the magical equivalent of a brilliant kid with ADHD. Very, very good, but bad at formalized tasks that most people use to measure magic. This says to me a good (going to incredible in latter seasons) Occult score with a penalty for study-type tasks.
He was doing the 'shave and a hair cut'* routine while watching Toffee in confusion and frustration. It's pretty clear he suspected Toffee was a toon, but wasn't certain and wanted confirmation. Assuming he suspects Toffee is a toon is about as safe a guess as guessing that Toffee's corn offer didn't have our best interests at heart. Granted, he might have given up, but like, if his chief intel guy says otherwise, I'm sure he'll be very primed to believe.
Also, another hilarious thing we can do with Hawk. Have a police raid on ENCOM (Located in LA). It's likely going to get Doom not supporting us, and like, will likely burn Hawk/robo-Hawk as an asset, but if we need a crucial distraction because MCP is pressing us hard we can wreck his stuff and set him on a vengeance path against someone else.
*Said routine drives toons to complete it
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- Germany
The Horned King
And before you say something: you said "most Disney" without differentiating between Classic and Gridlocked, so I am not violating a rule
I still want to get Max tended to by a professional shrink to deal with his various issue, for one.
Other than that, no clue.
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- Philippines
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- He/Him
Remember this? and remember ludivine's Trait?
that means we have a chance that this action will occur if the trait rolls a 6 on any learning action with a DC of 90 - 110, which is most of them
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- USA
Oof...
We probably need to do that flubber PR campaign relatively soonish to mitigate the massive hit to public opinion that would be.
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- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
Technor the Technical Man is a professional therapist. According to his Disney wiki page, being a therapist for a universal health-care plan is his base programming. It's why he goes into "therapist" mode when he turns off his ego.
Apologies if you weren't trying to imply Technor was not a professional.
Very much agree to that reading. She excelled above and beyond once she was finally able to both take it seriously and stop freaking out, and just focus her abilities on getting the apple to the instructor.
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- Mid-Atlantic
I'd rather set in motion a sequence of events that lets us destroy Judge Doom a year from now than feel compelled to get back at him immediately, even if that squanders the benefit we got from Agent Russ's previous crit.
See, that's the thing. If the plan is to replace Hawk with a robot duplicate, we have time. Because Steps One and Two of that plan are basically the stuff we were already committed to doing anyway! It doesn't start burning Intrigue or Diplomacy actions until later, which is good because we have capital-p Plans for our next couple of turns' Diplomacy anyway.
Maybe we can have Russ perform some kind of sabotage against Doom (Intrigue), or try to disrupt his supply chain (Stewardship), but let's just... not specifically get rid of Hawk, is all I'm saying.
On the bright side, the Hawk will know where NOT to look to find the LA underground!
Doom attempted to toon-check Toffee at the Sands Gala using the "shave and a haircut" knock, which (so far as he knows) any toon will feel an obsessive-compulsive need to return with the final "two bits" of the knock.
Toffee did not respond to the knock (though Agent Russ did, either just to mess with Doom's mind or because he is actually a secret toon just like Doom is, which wouldn't surprise me).
So Doom is probably LESS likely to think Toffee is a toon now than he was at the Sands Gala, but may still have suspicions.
[grunts in teacher-ese]
There are ways to work around ADHD.
Yeah, we should do that.
On the other hand, we can probably claw back some of the bad PR by doing the campaign AFTER discovering flubber power. It's an issue, but I'm not going to treat it as overriding all our other problems.
Also... I have to admit, it would be entirely appropriate if the absent-minded professor discovered how to do amazing things with flubber... again.
(Also also, we can avoid this by assigning Dr. von Drake to things that are significantly easier or more difficult. She's got the chops for the latter, and doing the former turns her into a crit machine)
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I know that Technor is a shrink first and supervillain second, pal.
No, I didn´t want to imply that he wasn´t a professional...simply didn´t think it needed to outright say that we´d have Technor analyze Max because I thought it obvious.
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Why do people want to psychoanalyze max so much?
Not saying that I'm against it but I don't really see the necessity of it right now.
Not saying that I'm against it but I don't really see the necessity of it right now.
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- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
Your sentence was grammatically vague, so I saw the possibility of you meaning it either way. It being in reference to Technor from context of quoting my question, and it NOT being in reference to Technor because you didn't state a subject and presented your sentence structure as if it was a separate thing from Technor. That's why I also put the apology in there if you actually did mean it in reference to Technor. It was equally plausible. No need to be defensive over it. I already conceded potentially being in the wrong beforehand - and I was.
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ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
Actually, according to the action description and rewards, I do not think this assumption is correct...
The only way we may avoid the public opinion decrease is to crit on the action, which is unlikely to happen.
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- England
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- He/Him
So we automatically make the plant if we take the action... Lovely.
I suspect that's only if we intentionally take it. If we unintentionally get it, I'd think it would come to a vote. Unless Von Drake manages to make a plant behind our back.
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- USA
So reach out to shego and flubber pr campaign next turn if the diplomacy action unlock works this round?
TimEd
Meteor maker
Aye!
Would be nice to further add to the number of people who can say they are Villainous/Evil yet still be someone Doof can work with.
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- Germany
I'd rather set in motion a sequence of events that lets us destroy Judge Doom a year from now than feel compelled to get back at him immediately, even if that squanders the benefit we got from Agent Russ's previous crit.
See, that's the thing. If the plan is to replace Hawk with a robot duplicate, we have time. Because Steps One and Two of that plan are basically the stuff we were already committed to doing anyway! It doesn't start burning Intrigue or Diplomacy actions until later, which is good because we have capital-p Plans for our next couple of turns' Diplomacy anyway.
Maybe we can have Russ perform some kind of sabotage against Doom (Intrigue), or try to disrupt his supply chain (Stewardship), but let's just... not specifically get rid of Hawk, is all I'm saying.
On the bright side, the Hawk will know where NOT to look to find the LA underground!
I thought the plan was to make Hawk a turncoat to profit off his intel into Cloverleaf with Doom none the wiser?
Now I wonder if that trick does have any effect on second-gen Toons like Max...
At least some of which are ABA aka "Pavlovian indoctrination tailored towards people", unfortunately...
So I am a bit torn on that topic.
Because some like me wanna make sure that he hasn´t got any festering mental issues on account of being a Teen (with puberty being a bitch), a Toon (therefore member of a people some want to either opress or flatout genocide), having a prominent-but-embarrasing father and no mother (both of which gotta put a lot of pressure on him) and having his school education interrupted in some way... very understandable assumptions, all things considered
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I mean, that would be such a Toony thing to do
You know, was Donald in the military during WW2 in this timeline or was that just a cartoon? I ask because I believe the US military did legitimately give a military rank to Donald Duck and a dischargement at Sergeant E-5 in OTL. I believe he is also an honorary member of the Marine Corps due to being enlisted in the Navy during the original Ducktales cartoon.
It'd probably make for good pro-Toon propaganda if it legitimately happened in this timeline and we can find and recruit Donald. Americans love a good veteran to carry forth a cause.
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- Germany
I mean, that would be such a Toony thing to do
You know, was Donald in the military during WW2 in this timeline or was that just a cartoon? I ask because I believe the US military did legitimately give a military rank to Donald Duck and a dischargement at Sergeant E-5 in OTL. I believe he is also an honorary member of the Marine Corps due to being enlisted in the Navy during the original Ducktales cartoon.
It'd probably make for good pro-Toon propaganda if it legitimately happened in this timeline and we can find and recruit Donald. Americans love a good veteran to carry forth a cause.
in that case we might wanna look if Pete genuinely worked as a Drill Sarge for a bit and didn´t just play one in cartoons.
That being said, in at least one WWII propaganda strip Pete was a mole for Nazi Germany, so we really have to know what was real and what was an act.