There's a lot better you can do to improve relations with the government than basically giving up our de facto independence. We don't need to be buddies with them. We only need to be cordial. There's a huge difference there.
In real world multiple countries doing exactly that, and even let America allocate military bases on their territory. It does not mean that they surrender their independence, they just let Pentagon to spend its money on irrelevant force projections. As long as we gain more than we loss its acceptable trade, and if down road we find itself overly restricted with this arrangement, we just overturn table, boot Russ from his position and rebuild network again.
Well, we don't suspect Mirage anymore (not about working for Kronos and not about hypnosis thing). We were preempted by author regarding Felldrake staff. Obviously paranoia is local state of existence and at this point Russ the only acceptable target. I am just saying, that even if this time our fears valid, we can deal with it and even extract short term benefits. And who really knows maybe in couple of turns we will roll 1 on global events and there won't be government to worry about.
In the real world the countries that said "no" got couped by the FBI or were threatened with economic destruction. We aren't a real country at the moment and our position is still too tenuous to do something so stupid.
Yeah no. You haven't even been part of this conversation. You don't get to accuse people of fear-mongering when neither you nor anyone else here has actually made an argument for why it is unrealistic. Fear-mongering is seeing valid points and discarding them for your own gain. NONE of you have actually questioned the validity of said point about putting the spook in charge of our spy network. Literally the only person who has taken the time to argue the point at all has conceded that it is what I've said but is pushing it as a good thing.
kinda pointless as doof will never allow vanessa to come near danger. heck he gave her a teleportawayinator for stuff like that.
Current setting government too paper tiger for it, unless Xanatos really reinforce it, and at this point coup will be us against Xanatos confrontation, which I was led to believe we are trying avoid
We have subvert Hawk option who is not even our hero unit. Why can't we subvert our own low level staff as long as we have loyal high intrigue hero.
Not exactly a good thing, more like thing that if needed we can turn to our advantage.
Burden of proof is on you, not me.
I did say that I wasn't trying to imply there would be a coup, so much as pointing out that those weren't nearly as willing or benevolent as you portray, outside of maybe Eastern Europe and Japan whom are, to my knowledge, completely open to the US military at this point each for their own reasons.
Because having the government in control of our incoming information for years on end kinda means "a year or two from now when circumstances change" will be a far different situation than now.
You are accusing me of bad faith when you have no proof of such thing. The burden of proof for bad faith is on you. You guys made no opposing arguments against the point, so you can't exactly go around claiming that I am "fear-mongering" since that implies that I have more refused to listen to your rationale against it with no realistic or good counterpoints.
No, no it's not. You also hadn't said anything regarding that up to this point. You made baseless accusations out of the blue while previously being a lurker the whole time and then suddenly coming out as if you had been making some big and "obvious" argument the whole time.
But until now we always dispatched Russ on every important intrigue action, so for us nothing will change. Let's say Russ will have some amount of control on which intrigue action we take and which not. But it's not like we are now free in choosing any action, since it's decided by DC and available heroes. And if he says that some action we can't take and we really want it, it just means we need to put additional preparation for it, like gaining goverment clearance, subverting agent network, or creating independent from spy network black ops team. Meanwhile we can enjoy improved relations with government and Xanatos, possible easer time at recruiting heroes and other benefits.
I mean, he'll know, because, uh... Xanatos, and he's fairly likely to integrate it into a plot, because, again, Xanatos. But that's just Xanatos personally being Xanatos; you're still right about the general principles.
Yaaaay my inator idea got through!
None of those actions were on building infrastructure. They were short-term things with immediate effects, not something we would have to rely on for a long-time going forward. I don't care about if he bugs our network; or rather, I don't care enough to argue. I care that our network and the government's network are one and the same.
) and Martinez is more childish to the extent that a sitcom would require for jokes. He's not really corrupt or even that incompetent. I see it more as Xanatos buying influence in the legal way most lobbyists and companies try to push for a political in, not as him being Martinez's puppet-master. Xanatos won't have nearly as much control over the government as you postulate, and letting the government agent create our spy network is too big a sacrifice to make.
And again, you have no proof that he'd do that. It's all based on the supposition that it's a trap option that the QM will smack us with down the line. It is paranoia, with no actual basis that I can see anywhere. Hell,Russ is aware that his own agency is splintered. Further, Russ' greatest loyalty isn't to the government, it's to "The Ideals of America". It literally says that on his sheet!
