Remove ads

DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

Reader mode
Mojave said:
@ilbgar123 @Black.Horus After talking it out with @Nystical , I'm swapping support to his plan. It essentially accomplishes the same things and we don't need to worry about splitting the vote that way
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Well I am sticting with my Plan as I the chance to have Temujin, Dennis, and Hego teaming up and build a new trait like the Doof Troop is too good to pass up. Also why chose Wing The Hawk? If it was for interrupting Doom's framing then I don't think it would work as he is Intrigue Hero not Diplomacy. Getting rid of him would only disrupting Doom's Information Network and whoever is in L.A had already done that for us.

But I switch to your plan once MiH confirms whether or not Von Drake expire this turn or next.
 
Last edited:
Nystical said:
This is making our spy network essentially a wing of the government, meaning we won't be able to keep any secrets from them, and they probably would be able to keep secrets from us. And using mirage makes the action more likely to critically or regularly fail than succeed.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
As long as Russ work for us, government already aware about all our plans,, we just don't care, and sometimes it's good for gloating.

Also about your plan, I think it was discussed, that ??? DC in [] Investigate crime in LA was probably in 200+ range since Hawk badly failed at it by rolling 107

Also current Coyote stewardship factoring loyalty bonus bigger then Mirage, so he is better for stewardship action.
 
Send Khan and norm to crush him.

I want to see what those two can do when working together to smash him.
 
Alex Sol said:
As long as Russ work for us, government already aware about all our plans,, we just don't care, and sometimes it's good for gloating.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
QM has mentioned before that Russ is primarily only aware of the stuff he's assigned to, unless we potentially fuck up really badly at something, or it's inherently public. See the organized crime debate.

Alex Sol said:
Also current Coyote stewardship factoring loyalty bonus bigger then Mirage, so he is better for stewardship action.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
They both have a bonus for the roll of 50 for stewardship.

Wiley: 24+22+4 (22*.2) = 50
Mirage: 24+23+3 (23*.15) = 50

Alex Sol said:
Also about your plan, I think it was discussed, that ??? DC in [] Investigate crime in LA was probably in 200+ range since Hawk badly failed at it by rolling 107
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
That discussion was about how the DC couldn't be higher than 213 because otherwise the 107 would have been a critical fail, not that the DC was "probably in the 200+ range."

Also, consider this: Doom and Hawk's combined intrigue on that roll was 46. With Russ, we have 53, plus +5 from Secret Keeper, +5 for Appeal to Authority, and +10 from Tooned in, for a total bonus of 73.

lockingbane said:
Send Khan and norm to crush him.

I want to see what those two can do when working together to smash him.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Can only send one hero unit to deal with him.


bigking321 said:
Didn't we need to discover goofys secret or something to stop a bad thing from happening?

Was that a thing or am I misunderstanding that?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Possibly, I might swap one of Doof's personal action out for that, but I also might want to wait for Max's loyalty penalty to go away first so that doesn't become the focus of the conversation.
 
Last edited:
Alex Sol said:
As long as Russ work for us, government already aware about all our plans,, we just don't care, and sometimes it's good for gloating.

Also about your plan, I think it was discussed, that ??? DC in [] Investigate crime in LA was probably in 200+ range since Hawk badly failed at it by rolling 107

Also current Coyote stewardship factoring loyalty bonus bigger then Mirage, so he is better for stewardship action.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Russ is not aware of everything we do, and letting him build our spy network is bad for if things ever go sour between us and the government - which I certainly plan to do to an extent since I want an independent Doofania eventually.
KrakenCaller8991 said:
Somewhat of a lurker but I need to ask, Is Highschool Musical part of DVV:Gridlock?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
It technically could be, especially if someone writes a relevant omake, but it likely isn't an inherent one. It doesn't add to the scenario so you would probably just hear it from an Easter Egg.
 
I'd still like to reach out to Shego in conjunction with an investigation into the drug ring (maybe offer to help?) before either of those things comes around to bite us in the ass, but I think we can put it off at least one more turn.
 
Nystical said:
QM has mentioned before that Russ is primarily only aware of the stuff he's assigned to, unless we potentially fuck up really badly at something, or it's inherently public. See the organized crime debate.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Even so, people already did not wanted to go against government, especially now that it has Xanatos backing. If we wait for some other intrigue based hero we basically will be reducing our intrigue action efficiency on the off chance that in future we decide to do something hidden and horrible, which I find unlikely considering for example resistance to assimilate crime option.
Nystical said:
They both have a bonus for the roll of 50 for stewardship.
Wiley: 24+22+4 (22*.2) = 50
Mirage: 24+23+3 (23*.15) = 50
That discussion was about how the DC couldn't be higher than 213 because otherwise the 107 would have been a critical fail, not that the DC was "probably in the 200+ range."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Ok, still for me there is no point to go for Acme records, since i don't plan to go for Doom this turn . Even if ??? DC less then 200 its still definitly highter then Spy Network DC.Also look into wayward supers looks like opportunity to investigate devil girl.
PyrrosWarrior said:
Russ is not aware of everything we do, and letting him build our spy network is bad for if things ever go sour between us and the government - which I certainly plan to do to an extent since I want an independent Doofania eventually.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
While I am personally not against something like this, you will need to somehow convince whole tread for this course of action. Its more likely that government will crumble by themselves, or we take it over by joining Xanatos shadow council.
 
Last edited:
Alex Sol said:
Even so, people already did not wanted to go against government
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
You also have to remember, if we didn't get a critical success on the Russ action to investigate Hawaii, he wouldn't have done it, because it would have gone against the government masquerade.

So that means recruiting Jumba technically should have counted as going against the government, but it wouldn't necessarily give us a malus to our relationship with the government if we managed to do it without them knowing.

But if we have a spy-ring that is loyal to the US government first and Doofania second, we wouldn't even have the option to do things like recruit Jumba with the spy network's resources, even if we intended to do it in a way that doesn't break the masquerade.

Also, we don't need to wait for another intrigue hero. We can use Mirage and a reroll to get a great chance of success next turn or something.

Alex Sol said:
Ok, still there is no point to go for Acme records, since i don't plan to go for Doom this turn .
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Going for the records could reduce the DC for future turns along with other benefits. Not everything is about the short-run, and this has been proven especially so with personal actions.
 
Last edited:
Hey, I just found this quest because of Sufficient Velocity's recommendations, and it's really great! I enjoyed the well written character interactions, the way it felt tonally appropriate to the shows in many scenes, and the way it feels like character actions are driving the plot.

Isn't it still possible to recruit Phineas and Ferb? It was said early on that it might be possible, but nothing was followed up on. They might be pretty useful, and having more hero units is always a good thing.
 
GoldenCookie said:
Hey, I just found this quest because of Sufficient Velocity's recommendations, and it's really great! I enjoyed the well written character interactions, the way it felt tonally appropriate to the shows in many scenes, and the way it feels like character actions are driving the plot.

Isn't it still possible to recruit Phineas and Ferb? It was said early on that it might be possible, but nothing was followed up on. They might be pretty useful, and having more hero units is always a good thing.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
[] Browse online for interesting stories
I'm guessing we have to take this personal action during a summer turn (the next 2 turns?) to potentially find them.
 
I thought they were the resistance?

Local kids vandalizing things?

They probably don't like doof because perry died i assumed.

I could be wrong of course.
 
Nystical said:
But if we have a spy-ring that is loyal to the US government first and Doofania second, we wouldn't even have the option to do things like recruit Jumba with the spy network's resources, even if we intended to do it in a way that doesn't break the masquerade.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
It was us and not Russ who intercepted Jumba signal. So even without Russ help we could have went there guns blazing. It is government who will need to think twice if it want to try to keep us in the dark and risk masquerade breaking or simply give us clearance for related stuff.

Also full openness can be more effective against Xanatos, than more conventional shadow games. He will think that we must be hiding something, investigate, find nothing and will think that we are even more formidable than he considered.

And when we go on auction maybe ask him for government clearance for magic related things, since we obviously in the know.
 
Well this is great. The chances of doing the smart thing and starting that spy ring so we can get to counter-espionage is already slim. Now the vote will be split. :(
 
Alex Sol said:
Split with what exactly? If I am not mistaken, as of now, mine is the only plan, that goes for Spy Network.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Well I'M certainly not going to vote for a plan that will have our entire intelligence infrastructure under the influence of our resident government spook, thus I would be forced to split with my own plan when the time comes. For that matter, I doubt what few people here that might even be willing to consider doing the spy network action would be willing to have it manned by the spook either.
 
PyrrosWarrior said:
Well I'M certainly not going to vote for a plan that will have our entire intelligence infrastructure under the influence of our resident government spook, thus I would be forced to split with my own plan when the time comes. For that matter, I doubt what few people here that might even be willing to consider doing the spy network action would be willing to have it manned by the spook either.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Well, I think we start with outsourcing our spy activity to government, work toward obtaining relevant clearances, maybe trough dealing with Xanatos in exchange for supporting his president candidate or some other deal. Recruit more government agents like Penny, and later when we find high intrigue hero with stats higher than Russ replace him in council position, create even higher position when we upgrade spy network next time or work on subverting this branch of government service.
 
Alex Sol said:
Well, I think we start with outsourcing our spy activity to government, work toward obtaining relevant clearances, maybe trough dealing with Xanatos in exchange for supporting his president candidate or some other deal. Recruit more government agents like Penny, and later when we find high intrigue hero with stats higher than Russ replace him in council position, create even higher position when we upgrade spy network next time or work on subverting this branch of government service.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I know you have a plan for what you want to do, and that's exactly why you will be splitting the vote on it.

That said, it ultimately doesn't matter. It's clear from the way everyone has been talking around the subject and just creating their own plans without even the slightest input that our support of the spy ring is so inconsequential that they ultimately are going to disregard us on the matter. I'd be surprised if support for the option even goes past just the two of us. That's always the pattern for how these things work out.
 
Personally I think russ is more of a james bond than a M. Pro field agent.

I think mirage would be a much better choice as spy leader but I don't have a grasp of the system yet so mirage might not be as good stat wise.

I don't particularly mind the government knowing a lot about us because we aren't really that bad but I think it will make working with other villains much harder and I so want the shego alliance and xanatos approval.
 
TheGleeman said:
Well, I´d like to focus on reaching out to Shego, but that doesn´t seem to gain any traction either...sucks honestly
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'd be willing to put that in for votes. Like, I am always open for compromise. I believe in quests that the winning plan should always try to give everyone at least a little bit of everything, no matter whether their votes are required to win or not. This is all for entertainment at the end of the day after all.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top