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MrCogmor said:
Incompatibilities do matter for digestion. You can't break down and re-purpose things that your stomach can't process. Cybugs would probably break their teeth trying to eat Tempest programs.
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Yeah, for biological needs. Incompatibilities would also matter for real computer viruses as well, since viruses can generally only interface and interact with familiar systems. If you were to put a virus designed for a Windows PC in to a GalFed computer, it probably wouldn't be able to do anything due to using different data systems.

Cybugs don't work like that though. They aren't actual computer viruses and don't really interact with data. They don't "process" or repurpose things. They assimilate them into themselves to become that which they assimilated. They are from an FPS video game yet were instantly able to adapt to Sugar Rush because they ate jawbreakers. A cybug biting into Tempest code would assimilate the data and become similar to Tempest coding.

That said, they aren't really anything to worry about at the moment. Their strength comes in adapting at greater numbers. Even millions of the things is relatively small on a digital scale. They are bad if nothing is ever done to fight them, but they aren't an immediate threat. Furthermore, like was mentioned by someone else, Tempest specifically is likely not connected to digital or energy networks for said Cybugs to enter their own territory anyhow so they are more a problem for the rest of the world. I say "energy networks" because Wreck-it Ralph logic has programs able to travel as seemingly any form of networked energy, including along electrical lines and Internet Wi-Fi.
 
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weredrago2 said:
Eh. Like we said, you weren't actually supposed to buy it. Make it make sense in your head however you like but other than the +1 Income we ignore you have it.
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I like this little theory:
woweed said:
Some Toon headcanons: Due to Toontown being destroyed, Walt's EPCOT plans here were not for a new town for humans to live in, but, rather, a new Toon Mecca as the LA toontown had once been, that would shelter them from Doom (and make them, friends of and reliant on his company, thereby giving him sole access to them. Walt was many things, but he was hardly an altruist). Sadly, Doom got insider info on the project, and quietly sent a hit out. Walt didn't die of lung cancer in this world. With his death, and his company's complete abandonment of animation, and, indeed, most non-documentary films in the next decade, the plans for EPCOT were scrapped. Though many Toons do still use Disneyland as a meeting place, as it's one of the few places on the entire West Coast where they can naturally blend in, some even living in its shadow. Doom's made many attempts to destroy this last vestige of Tooniness in Cali, mostly averted by the hard efforts of other Toons, most notably a certain Mouse. And, of course, now Dr. Doofenshmirtz, The Toon's Friend, owns the place. UGH...Of course, sitting somewhere beneath Disneyland is said to be Walt's head, left in statis to be used to bring him back in the future. Probably just an urban legend: Many Toons have looked and found nothing.

On questions, rather then me elaborate waxing poetic about something that probably isn't true....Do CGI characters count as Toons?
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PyrrosWarrior said:
Yeah, for biological needs. Incompatibilities would also matter for real computer viruses as well, since viruses can generally only interface and interact with familiar systems. If you were to put a virus designed for a Windows PC in to a GalFed computer, it probably wouldn't be able to do anything due to using different data systems.

Cybugs don't work like that though. They aren't actual computer viruses and don't really interact with data. They don't "process" or repurpose things. They assimilate them into themselves to become that which they assimilated. They are from an FPS video game yet were instantly able to adapt to Sugar Rush because they ate jawbreakers. A cybug biting into Tempest code would assimilate the data and become similar to Tempest coding.
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Assimilation is the processing and repurposing things and it was what I was referring to when I posted.
MrCogmor said:
Information still needs to be processed, interpreted and integrated properly to remain functional. If the cybugs just combined code at random without knowing what it does then they would be a tumorous non-functional mess of errors instead of a functional threat.
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I'm aware they are digital borg but that doesn't mean you can No limit Fallacy them into easily understanding clarketech.
 
So I was thinking if this turn we're going to put Jumba in Human Genetics and use another good hero on AI wouldn't it be a good idea to put LOVEMUFFIN in this action?

Made in Heaven said:
[ ] Study the SHV 20905 Plans

DC 90

You purchased these off of the internet from a strange pirate man for the low low price of ten million dollars. You're not sure what they do, but considering that they're highly proprietary and were stolen from ENCOM, they're probably pretty useful.


(Reward: State and Purpose of the Shiva Laser established, further actions unlocked)
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This way they'd feel important and we'd have access to the Grid next turn.
 
Retrueno said:
So I was thinking if this turn we're going to put Jumba in Human Genetics and use another good hero on AI wouldn't it be a good idea to put LOVEMUFFIN in this action?



This way they'd feel important and we'd have access to the Grid next turn.
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It probably wouldn't end too badly, between the learning bonuses LOVEMUFFIN actually has a decent chance of success. The thing is though, most people are in favor of having the team do Normbot decentralization to finally get it over and done with, especially considering the cyber attacks this turn.

Your idea is decent, it just has some competition.
 
ReaperofInterest said:
It probably wouldn't end too badly, between the learning bonuses LOVEMUFFIN actually has a decent chance of success. The thing is though, most people are in favor of having the team do Normbot decentralization to finally get it over and done with, especially considering the cyber attacks this turn.

Your idea is decent, it just has some competition.
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Yeah, it probably won't win. Although I'm still not quite sure why people think that decentralizing the Normbots would help tbh since the flavor text has nothing mentioning it.

By the way, do you have any idea why we didn't take that action in the previous turn instead of Researching Resiniferatoxin since both actions have the same DC?
 
Retrueno said:
Yeah, it probably won't win. Although I'm still not quite sure why people think that decentralizing the Normbots would help tbh since the flavor text has nothing mentioning it.

By the way, do you have any idea why we didn't take that action in the previous turn instead of Researching Resiniferatoxin since both actions have the same DC?
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As for why people think it'll help, its because if we decentralize the bots, people won't be able to.utterly agree us over like we did Syndrome by just plugging in a single virus to a single location. Remember the Luck Be A Lady arc? Syndrome lost all his omnidroids because they were all connected to a single network, allowing our virus software to infect all of them at once, while if even some of them had been on a separate network, things might have ended very differently.

As for why we chose Resiniferatoxin...good question. I wasn't a part of that vote, so I'd need to look over the pages to tell.you the answer, but if I had to guess I think it might have been related yo improving Bueno Nacho maybe?
 
ReaperofInterest said:
As for why people think it'll help, its because if we decentralize the bots, people won't be able to.utterly agree us over like we did Syndrome by just plugging in a single virus to a single location. Remember the Luck Be A Lady arc? Syndrome lost all his omnidroids because they were all connected to a single network, allowing our virus software to infect all of them at once, while if even some of them had been on a separate network, things might have ended very differently.

As for why we chose Resiniferatoxin...good question. I wasn't a part of that vote, so I'd need to look over the pages to tell.you the answer, but if I had to guess I think it might have been related yo improving Bueno Nacho maybe?
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It was a low DC action that would help defend our territory and they might feel important doing. It wasn't part of a hugely complicated strategy or anything, I just felt it was a slightly better idea than decentralizing or the like because people were afraid of an attack.
 
Retrueno said:
Although I'm still not quite sure why people think that decentralizing the Normbots would help tbh since the flavor text has nothing mentioning it.
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Right now the cybugs can brick our units if they manage to enter our single norm hub, to say nothing about what MCP could do with a physical presence

Also having more norm hubs means we can have more norms
 
Ashen Cross said:
Which, in hindsight, sounds counterintuitive since the Normbots were meant to be a main policing and defense force
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Decentralizing normbots wouldn't have helped against an attack from the drug cartel, since they don't seem to have much in the way of robotics expertise; their bots are shit and they don't even seem to make them in house. If I'm being honest though I didn't think it would come up; I considered it unlikely that an attack would occur, either from the cartel or in general.
 
Ashen Cross said:
Which, in hindsight, sounds counterintuitive since the Normbots were meant to be a main policing and defense force
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The general argument against that was that the description didn't say they would be entirely autonomous. Rather, they would be hub-based locally instead of all relying on a centralized hub. It would basically add another chain of command to change it from "DEI > Normbots" to "DEI > Local Station > Normbots" so that only singular stations would be taken down in the event of a virus or hacking rather than every single police force. It's a bit like the concept of sandboxing for testing out potentially dangerous viruses. Some viruses can still transfer through a local network, but having it within a sandbox that can cut it off from all or most other access and exit points still limits the total damage it can do.
 
KA$H said:
Right now the cybugs can brick our units if they manage to enter our single norm hub, to say nothing about what MCP could do with a physical presence

Also having more norm hubs means we can have more norms
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The thing is, iirc, that our Normbots are a closed up system. The only way to take advantage of it would be to physically infiltrate into the DEI and update them, kind of like we did with Syndrome's robots.

KA$H said:
Also having more norm hubs means we can have more norms
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This seems like pure speculation tbh.
 
Fun fact: Decentralizing the Normbots first became a favorable option because people did not want Phantom Blot to easily brick Doofania's security force.
 
QTesseract said:
Decentralizing normbots wouldn't have helped against an attack from the drug cartel, since they don't seem to have much in the way of robotics expertise; their bots are shit and they don't even seem to make them in house. If I'm being honest though I didn't think it would come up; I considered it unlikely that an attack would occur, either from the cartel or in general.
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It's always good to be prepared. Just looka at Xany, always a few steps ahead of everyone.
 
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