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Hey guys; another lurker here who has been drawn out by the hubbub surrounding the latest update.
First, I want to acknowledge that I am a big fan of @eaglejarl, @Velorien, and @OliWhail's writing here. 640k words is a great deal to read and I wouldn't have stuck with it if you guys weren't engaging writers, and whatever happens here, I plan to continue reading whatever you guys write.
That said, I do think the outcome in the latest chapter is unfair to the player base. The general thrust of my argument has been made by others, but I'd still like to put it into my own words: Namely, given that the screwup was revealing sensitive information regarding Noburi's abilities during planning last chapter, in universe there should have been sufficient warning for the player base to spot their mistake and make an attempt at damage control.
Specifically, Noburi has a history of being obvious when he is angry at Hazō. The latest update contains examples of this:
Based on my model of Noburi, this behavior likely would have emerged the moment Hazō revealed Noburi's clan secrets, at the very least prompting him to shoot Hazō a betrayed glare at the moment of the mistake and treating him noticeably harshly while carrying out the mission in the previous update.
Of course, out-of-universe it's understandable why that didn't happen:
There can't be hints for a mistake the QMs didn't initially realize the players made. Given that the vast majority of players (and this lurker, at the very least) also did not realize a mistake had been made, it's entirely understandable! Accurately modeling an alternate universe and the people populating it is not a trivial task. Unfortunately, with the timing of the realization being Wednesday, this puts the players in the position of not getting hints they should have gotten (speaking from an in-universe logic standpoint) that could have lead to realizing the mistake and discussing it with the team, possibly talking Kagome out of making Minami mincemeat in the process. Instead, we have the hints only showing up in the chapter where Minami mincemeat is made, where it is too late to realize the error and attempt damage control.
That is my main concern with how things played out. Still, regardless of what the QMs decide, I hope this quest continues! I greatly appreciate the hard work everyone has put into this quest and will gladly keep reading wherever this may go.
First, I want to acknowledge that I am a big fan of @eaglejarl, @Velorien, and @OliWhail's writing here. 640k words is a great deal to read and I wouldn't have stuck with it if you guys weren't engaging writers, and whatever happens here, I plan to continue reading whatever you guys write.
That said, I do think the outcome in the latest chapter is unfair to the player base. The general thrust of my argument has been made by others, but I'd still like to put it into my own words: Namely, given that the screwup was revealing sensitive information regarding Noburi's abilities during planning last chapter, in universe there should have been sufficient warning for the player base to spot their mistake and make an attempt at damage control.
Specifically, Noburi has a history of being obvious when he is angry at Hazō. The latest update contains examples of this:
And then there was Noburi, who seemed to be quietly simmering in a depressingly familiar fashion. What had Hazō done this time, other than placing Noburi and his skills in the spotlight the way his teammate had always wanted?
"That's right," Noburi said icily. "Great fun until some idiot decides to ruin it for everyone by showing off how clever he is."
That was uncalled for. What was Noburi's problem tonight?
Based on my model of Noburi, this behavior likely would have emerged the moment Hazō revealed Noburi's clan secrets, at the very least prompting him to shoot Hazō a betrayed glare at the moment of the mistake and treating him noticeably harshly while carrying out the mission in the previous update.
Of course, out-of-universe it's understandable why that didn't happen:
As a point of information: We didn't set out to screw you, and we didn't deliberately hold back information. We're all busy folk and it was only Wednesday afternoon (London time) that we realized what had happened and what the realistic consequences would be.
There can't be hints for a mistake the QMs didn't initially realize the players made. Given that the vast majority of players (and this lurker, at the very least) also did not realize a mistake had been made, it's entirely understandable! Accurately modeling an alternate universe and the people populating it is not a trivial task. Unfortunately, with the timing of the realization being Wednesday, this puts the players in the position of not getting hints they should have gotten (speaking from an in-universe logic standpoint) that could have lead to realizing the mistake and discussing it with the team, possibly talking Kagome out of making Minami mincemeat in the process. Instead, we have the hints only showing up in the chapter where Minami mincemeat is made, where it is too late to realize the error and attempt damage control.
That is my main concern with how things played out. Still, regardless of what the QMs decide, I hope this quest continues! I greatly appreciate the hard work everyone has put into this quest and will gladly keep reading wherever this may go.
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