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I'm sure this list could be expanded. Honoka, Fifi, Naruto, perchance even Pangolin summons.
Pangolin summons by virtue of being expendable, yes.

Say, do we even know if Kagome has any actual combat skills other than being really clever about using explosive tags? I don't recall anything about combat skills or even ninjutsu from him, just sealing stuff.

Come on now, I edited out the sparring suggestion but there's nothing wrong with them acting as co-teachers. Hazou needs to spend a lot of time training, and that sort of thing is ninja socialization.
It occurs to me that having someone else there might make Hana think that she had to have a Goketsu chaperone along in order to spend time with her son which would make her more upset. And in any case getting Hazou to herself will probably make her feel less like she's being kept distanced from him.
 
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Pangolin summons by virtue of being expendable, yes.

Say, do we even know if Kagome has any actual combat skills other than being really clever about using explosive tags? I don't recall anything about combat skills or even ninjutsu from him, just sealing stuff.
He's Chuunin-level in Taijutsu (Hazou sparred with him a little earlier on) and we know he's Lightning element so he may have a technique or two like that lying around (could come in handy putting down extradimensional horrors), but he is as always reluctant to share information he doesn't absolutely have to.
 
Guys, I just thought of a way for us to get Hana off Mari's back.

We need to make contact with Hana's hivemind.
Wouldn't it be funny if extradimensional hive minds were a side effect of the Iron Nerve and everyone in the family had them, but those few who figured out what was happening thought they were the only ones? It would explain why everyone in the family that we know of seems to be such an overachiever.
 
Come on now, I edited out the sparring suggestion but there's nothing wrong with them acting as co-teachers. Hazou needs to spend a lot of time training, and that sort of thing is ninja socialization.
Oh sorry, I didn't see that. (I'm not used to the new vote tally system, so I'm slowly figuring out how to find plan posts.) Yeah, that sounds just fine.
 
Pangolin summons by virtue of being expendable, yes.

Say, do we even know if Kagome has any actual combat skills other than being really clever about using explosive tags? I don't recall anything about combat skills or even ninjutsu from him, just sealing stuff.


It occurs to me that having someone else there might make Hana think that she had to have a Goketsu chaperone along in order to spend time with her son which would make her more upset. And in any case getting Hazou to herself will probably make her feel less like she's being kept distanced from him.
In addiiton to what IV said, I proposed a stunt for him a long while ago that let him replace his combat stat with Alertness (or, more accurately, Initiative) when using his Directional Blast seals, to represent the fact that he's spent probably 20 years working with them, and that they frankly only rely on reaction time.
 
Eew. That will never, ever happen. If @Velorien tries to write it I will fly over to Rightpondia just so I can take his keyboard away. Incest, even when there is no blood relationship, is vile.
Finally, motivation to organise A QM meetup!

More seriously, while you won't be seeing incest in MfD both out of respect for @eaglejarl's wishes and because it doesn't make sense for any of the characters, my own stance is much more permissive.

On an MfD level, Keiko is recovering from attraction to Mari. So is Kagome. Noburi is recovering from attraction to Keiko. Hazō is recovering from attraction to Akane, who once came close to being adopted into the clan as well. None of those people are ever likely to backslide (though Hazō getting over Akane may not be quick or easy), but nor is adoption for political reasons a magic wand to change what's in their hearts.

On a fictional level, as an anime fan I've been forced to slog my way through more non-blood-related incest subplots than there are stars in the sky. Most of them are relentlessly dire, but, perhaps by sheer laws of probability, a few have been as compelling as any well-written romance, so I know it can be done. Besides, it's something like the third law of fanfiction that any pairing can be written well by an author of sufficient skill.

On a real-life level, none of us choose whom to love, and it's not like anyone would ever want to want a relationship subject to both devastating social taboo and uncompromising legal sanction. I'd never advocate an incestuous relationship because of the sheer number of failure modes (whether psychological, social or biological), and my gut reaction to inter-generational incest in particular tends to be fairly similar to eaglejarl's, but I am still sympathetic to those who face the exact same kind of discrimination in civilised countries that, for example, gay people face in backward ones.

@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Have the renovations progressed to the point where the Goketsu household has a room suitable for a "Quiet Room"?

I was considering that those that aren't social butterflies would appreciate somewhere they could relax and read without feeling social pressure to be around people during game night. Rules include no voices higher than a whisper without mutual agreement of everyone present, and chill vibes. Books provided or welcomed.
There are plenty of rooms designed with enough soundproofing that nobody can hear the screams, if that's what you're asking. Hazō is welcome to suggest a non-terrifying use for them, though it seems to me like the hosts can always retreat to their rooms, and the guests not turn up, if they don't want to socialise.
 
Guys, I just thought of a way for us to get Hana off Mari's back.

We need to make contact with Hana's hivemind.

Wouldn't it be funny if extradimensional hive minds were a side effect of the Iron Nerve and everyone in the family had them, but those few who figured out what was happening thought they were the only ones? It would explain why everyone in the family that we know of seems to be such an overachiever.

Meanwhile in Motherhood or Death...
Someone needs to write the negaverse.
 
The way Velorien is cruel, we probably are going to get a political marriage between Hazou and a Kurosawa girl as means of guarantee a alliance between mist and Konoha.

Yes, i'm looking at you Ren, and your strange ways of pleasing your sister.
 
The way Velorien is cruel, we probably are going to get a political marriage between Hazou and a Kurosawa girl as means of guarantee a alliance between mist and Konoha.

Yes, i'm looking at you Ren, and your strange ways of pleasing your sister.
That's actually pretty clever. "Sure, Hana, you can join Jiraiya's clan if that's what you want. But one way or another, Hazou is going to preserve the kinship bonds between the Hokage and Mizukage..."
 
That's actually pretty clever. "Sure, Hana, you can join Jiraiya's clan if that's what you want. But one way or another, Hazou is going to preserve the kinship bonds between the Hokage and Mizukage..."
That would be acceptable, tbh. The only problem would be where they lived. And also how well he'd get along with her. You know, the normal things to worry about with arranged marriages.
 
That would be acceptable, tbh. The only problem would be where they lived. And also how well he'd get along with her. You know, the normal things to worry about with arranged marriages.

The way arranged marriages go, probably there would be input directly from Hana (in choosing the girl), and the girl would move to Hazou domicile.
 
*climbs out from beneath a pile of math and inequalities*

I believe I have done the math out on the Proposed Chakra Experiment in @Inferno Vulpix 's plan laid out here and have established a fairly tight bound on margin of error/tweaked the experiment so that it will enable us to provide strong experimental evidence for "Chakra costs are uniform throughout techniques" or disprove that we live in this universe (OOC: Heh, yeah. Suuuuure.)

After which the question of "Quantifying chakra" is trivial (just use a low powered technique as your metaphorical meterstick).

I will shitcheck myself tomorrow before posting anything. Likewise I need to make it not look as painful. Its three pages and could use some fleshing out.

I have hopefully done all of this from an in-universe viewpoint, and I definitely haven't used any math beyond basic arithmetic and some algebra/real number inequalities.

In other news:Time to go do some minmaxing on my newly leveled Druid! Circle picking ahoy!

*swan dives back into pile of math and probabilistic estimates*
 
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Hazō is welcome to suggest a non-terrifying use for them

To game night invitees

Hazou: Guys you can try out the quiet room if interested. Pretty good place if you want to get any research done. Very quiet. Nobody can hear the screams.

In a house that was once one of Orochimaru's research labs.
 
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To game night invitees

Hazou: Guys you can try out the quiet room if interested. Pretty good place if you want to get any research done. Very quiet. Nobody can hear the screams.

In a house that was once one of Orochimaru's research labs.
Well the idea was more for a small-ish library type room with couches and stuff for quiet discussions for those who're less comfortable in large gatherings...

Because I know I wouldn't be comfortable around 20 people, no matter how well I know them.
 
Well the idea was more for a small-ish library type room with couches and stuff for quiet discussions for those who're less comfortable in large gatherings...

Because I know I wouldn't be comfortable around 20 people, no matter how well I know them.
Hazō is welcome to suggest it if there is anyone capable of making the necessary arrangements in time. I fully empathise with your feelings in this matter.

Relatedly, if you guys are sticking with the gaming night, could your plan give me some indication of the intended logistics? 20 people is way too many for any one game in your possession, even Mist Infiltration Group (a party game which in any case has never existed due to encouraging mass voting).
 
Guys, I just thought of a way for us to get Hana off Mari's back.

We need to make contact with Hana's hivemind.

I know we keep joking about the "going pretty damn far" line but that must have been literally in the winning plan considering what Hana did to Mari.

[H] Action Plan: Mommy's back

Locate Hazou and spend time with him
  • Don't let anything get in the way between our reunion.
  • Follow his lead, listen to and comfort him if he needs us to.
    • However: Gently refuse to take part in any strange hijinks he is trying to rope us into (NB: Up to QM's discretion what falls under this).
      • From what we can tell from the Interludes the boy has clearly become unhinged and it is best not to encourage this behavior and slowly ween him off the insanity.
  • Try to make nice with his friends and team mates since they clearly mean a lot to him and it is not their fault Hazou got taken from us.

Establishing dominance
  • Tell Mari exactly how we feel and what is going to happen to her if she comes inbetween Hazou and us.
    • Because we will go pretty damn far to keep him safe now that have the opportunity to.
      • Note to QMs: Please limit this to social combat. Intimidation rolls are fine but lets keep it non-physical for now unless Hana is 100% sure she can make it look like an unrelated accident.

Misc
  • Offer Hazou to train with him if he seems amenable to it but don't push for it.
    • We don't want to come off too strong on our first day here. But if he asks, say yes.
  • Secure our new residence in Leaf, comply with their requests.
  • Send Ren a souvenir.
    • If possible, find a clan owned clothing shop and look for a T-Shirt that says "Number One Favorite Heir", cross out the 'One' and write 'Two' over it.
      • We have not forgotten how our clan treated us.
        • And we are petty as hell.
  • Find a reputable liqor shop and peruse their wares to find a higher XP per glass drink.
    • Leaf is more advanced than Mist and churns out more S-rank ninjas. Clearly, this has to do with their superior spirits.

The way arranged marriages go, probably there would be input directly from Hana (in choosing the girl), and the girl would move to Hazou domicile.

I am pretty sure that if Hazou said no, Hana would outright veto that marriage. She'd be the kind of person to allow him to marry for love since she did the same thing.

(Un)fortunately the hive mind would convince her that the arranged marriage would be a good political move and she would probably be sad again that her son has to make these decisions and lament him growing up without her.
 
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Hazō is welcome to suggest it if there is anyone capable of making the necessary arrangements in time. I fully empathise with your feelings in this matter.

Relatedly, if you guys are sticking with the gaming night, could your plan give me some indication of the intended logistics? 20 people is way too many for any one game in your possession, even Mist Infiltration Group (a party game which in any case has never existed due to encouraging mass voting).
Multiple groups, people encouraged to mingle with those outside their teams, maybe? Or Mafia Yakuza.
 
Hazō is welcome to suggest it if there is anyone capable of making the necessary arrangements in time. I fully empathise with your feelings in this matter.

Relatedly, if you guys are sticking with the gaming night, could your plan give me some indication of the intended logistics? 20 people is way too many for any one game in your possession, even Mist Infiltration Group (a party game which in any case has never existed due to encouraging mass voting).
Ah this please.

Ninjaverse!Mafia is a great idea but perhaps not with the particular crowd we're playing with.
 
[X] Action Plan: Game Night

  • See if mom is available for game night. If not, figure out when she will be available to hang out with.
  • Gaming Night:
    • Everyone draw straws or roll dices to be divided into four groups.
    • Each group will play a different game of some sort.
    • If finished with board games, roll dice again to determine sorting.
Misc:
  • Continue training for the exam and research into casino seal.
    • No more Kagome's Explosive Experiments.
  • Instead of the usual Skytower seals, draw skywalker seals instead.

Changed games to how to handle logistics. Be more specific with what we're training for and what we're researching.

Also, skytower is displaced in favor of skywalkers.
 
And so Hazou coincidentally wound up playing with Hinata, Ino, and (somehow) Anko. :p

Note: I don't think dice rolling is actually a problem, but I am curious to see what machinations Mari and Keiko come up with given the opportunity.

(Might also be a chance for Mari to exercise restraint, if she's worried about using her powers for evil.)

[X] Action Plan: Optimal Game Night

  • See if mom is available for game night. If not, figure out when she will be available to hang out with.
  • Ask Mari-sensei and Kagome-sensei if they want to make cookies together. Hazou's had a hankering for them lately, and it'd be a fun activity to do with his other parents mentor figures of a familial bent.
  • Gaming Night:
    • Ask Keiko and Mari for logistical/social advice on the party. There are going to be a lot of people, and we want everyone to have a good time without being overwhelmed.
    • Particularly Nakano's team.

Misc:
  • Continue training for the exam and research into casino seals.
    • Put a hold on Kagome's Explosive Experiments.
  • Instead of the usual Skytower seals, draw skywalker seals instead.
 
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We must relax harder!!!!
[X] Action Plan: Optimal Game Night


[X] Action Plan: Boosted Maximized Game Night

  • See if mom is available for game night. If not, figure out when she will be available to hang out with.
  • Gaming Night:
    • Ask Keiko and Mari for logistical/social advice on the party. There are going to be a lot of people, and we want everyone to have a good time without being overwhelmed.
    • Particularly Nakano's team.
    • Play some games

Misc:
  • Continue training for the exam and research into casino seals.
    • Put a hold on Kagome's Explosive Experiments.
  • Instead of the usual Skytower seals, draw skywalker seals instead.
 
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