Because, as SynchronizedWritersBlock said, it's only useful closer to the border.
It's only useful closer to the border when it is just used for repairs. On any given repair the most it will shave of is a month.

It is most useful on new builds. On builds it can shave off a full quarter or more.

It isn't a giant repair house.
 
Because, as SynchronizedWritersBlock said, it's only useful closer to the border.
It'd be cheaper to build more berths then. Sol is the shipbuilding capital of the Federation - a distinction that will rise over time as UP is expanded. The Heavy Industrial park has a large opportunity cost - large enough that we have to put it in Sol.
 
Only reason we'd want the HIP anytime soon, in my opinion, is if it applied to the Amby prototype. Then it would be nice to have.
 
-[] Reorganise a Starfleet Command from a Rear Admiral position to a Vice Admiral position: 20pp for Starfleet Intelligence

Here's my argument. We know that a Vice Admiral has "stronger" bonuses than a Rear Admiral. Everyone has been freaking out a little about the Lecarre; this would allow us to make Starfleet Intelligence a little more powerful. We can even keep Linderly, just with a more powerful Counter-intelligence bonus. He now has enough Time in Rank to be be a Vice Admiral.
Initially I was just about convinced by this argument, but there is a serious problem: It's not completely clear that Linderley has sufficent time in rank and we could be forced to pick someone else who has a different bonus. We promoted him in 2309, so it's been barely 5 years, usually VADM promotions seem to call for 7 years. There was an exception made for Uhura, and 5 years could just barely be enough even without exception if there aren't multiple other candidates with more time in rank available, but I wouldn't want to risk it. Next year would be significantly less risky, the year after definitely safe.
 
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I agree. When do you expect we've got 125pp lying around and no idea what to do with them?
I could see us picking the UP expansion next year and the Industrial Park in 2316, hopefully we will have reduced Syndicate cost to a manageable level and be able to get most of our nominal yearly pp income by then. Otherwise 2318 looks promising, after a wave of new members joining, granting 25pp each if nothing goes wrong.
 
I could see us picking the UP expansion next year and the Industrial Park in 2316, hopefully we will have reduced Syndicate cost to a manageable level and be able to get most of our nominal yearly pp income by then. Otherwise 2318 looks promising, after a wave of new members joining, granting 25pp each if nothing goes wrong.
I haven't seen anything in the option itself that states how long it takes to build the park. Any idea?
 
Given the recent treaty with the Romulans, it seems like this would be a good time to sit down with both them and the Klingons and candidly discuss just what role they'd like us to be playing in the upcoming Klingon-Romulan war. This could be anything from a formal declaration of neutrality and a hands-off policy, to having us formally accepted as mediators to assist in treaty negotiations once the fighting draws to a close, to allowing us to send in aid to affected civilian populations during the war.

The idea is to get both sides on board with it before the fighting starts, so that we're not in a position of having to pry the victors off the battered bodies of the losers once the conflict goes one way or the other. It is, after all, a war; someone will win, and someone will lose. Our efforts will mitigate how badly the loser loses, and thus can be considered a hedge against defeat. On the other hand, our diplomatic efforts could also help the victor in consolidating their gains, as should the borders move after the conflict, it is to the victor's advantage that the conflict then end instead of dragging on for a interminable period of nasty cloak-on-cloak guerilla skirmishing.

This is, of course, an FDS matter instead of a Starfleet matter. But it'd be nice if they could get on that in advance of the fighting, instead of panicking and rushing into it after the war starts.
 
I don't think Klingons and Romulans have formally decided to have a war with each other, and made an appointment.
 
Initially I was just about convinced by this argument, but there is a serious problem: It's not completely clear that Linderley has sufficent time in rank and we could be forced to pick someone else who has a different bonus. We promoted him in 2309, so it's been barely 5 years, usually VADM promotions seem to call for 7 years. There was an exception made for Uhura, and 5 years could just barely be enough even without exception if there aren't multiple other candidates with more time in rank available, but I wouldn't want to risk it. Next year would be significantly less risky, the year after definitely safe.

I just went back to read what @OneirosTheWriter said about Uhura being a candidate.

Rear Admiral Uhura has 3.5yrs TIR, John Harriman 2.5yrs.

I have been looking for 4+, but I guess with Uhura's efforts around Orion I can fudge that...

Also, heres the Shipyard Operations VA vote.

[ ][SYO] Rear Admiral Patricia Chen
Human Female, 54 (Time in Rank, 10 years)
Current Posting: Director, Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards
A flag career that has seen her handle a variety of roles, most recently in charge of the mighty Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards. If selected, bonus to parallel builds (ships of the same class built at the same yard with the same start date take -1Qtr per year to complete).

[ ][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk
Vulcan Male, 64 (Time in Rank, 10 years)
Current Posting: Director, 40 Eridani A Fleet Yards
Almost all of Sirvk's career has been in Shipyard Operations and he knows every component perfectly. Gain discount to SR costs of 10% (rounded down to nearest multiple of 5)

[ ][SYO] Rear Admiral Khirg glov Wurkon
Tellarite Male, 48 (Time in Rank, 5 years)
Current Posting: Director, Shipyard Industrial Command
An argumentative industrialist, Khirg has a penchant for motivation that borders on browbeating. Can pay 10pp/year to double production speed on one project.

Shows pretty conclusively that 5 years is long enough, especially considering Linderly is the incumbent.
 
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I just went back to read what @OneirosTheWriter said about Uhura being a candidate.
Before that he said that it depends on what other candidates are available, in the case of the Ops vote obviously there weren't many or he wouldn't have asked. As I said 5 years could be enough without exception, but probably not if there are 3-4 candidates with significantly more TIR available. There probably aren't, but we don't know about all rear admirals.

Being Incumbent didn't help Sanik with IIRC 4 years TIR.
 
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re: the dead Ambassador situation.

Local Intel needs to be Inspected - they either incompetent or compromised.
The Treaty of Celos should include a structure for complaints and resolution - this is a job for the FDS to follow through on. Sure, nothing will come from it but we will have the legal framework fully fleshed out.
 
Well, I guess we'll have different options and see who wins, then, because I think an Intelligence VA position could be helpful. I consider the odds that:

1. Linderly won't be a candidate
AND
2. There is no candidate with a bonus that seems useful against Lecarre infiltration

to be sufficiently low that it's a risk I'm willing to take.
 
I would agree if they hadn't killed and replaced an ambassador. If they'd replaced an ambassador talking with the Yan-Ros we could be at war with them right now
We would have noticed what was wrong a LONG time ago if the Lecarre impersonating the ambassador had done anything other than carry out our own orders. I'm pretty sure the Lecarre agent was just passively ferrying information back home.

Personally, I'd pass a message to the Dawiar through the Qloathi that they ought to double-check against their people having been replaced by the Lecarre. We know the Cardassians were pushing them to play together. Well when you lay down with a dog, you get fleas.

When they discover the Lecarre infiltrators that I'm sure exist, that'll be fun.
I strongly approve of this.

Well, on the other hand, the Ked Paddah know we're watching, and so might just be treating the Mentats extra-nice, because that's prudent. Then when we stop paying attention they could think it also prudent to eliminate the Mentat Maniacs [Sidebar: Camazotz villian idea??] by shoving them into a duranium saw.

They probably are nice people, we just have to be alert to any political theatre.
The Ked Paddah would have had to know we were watching from before our first contact with them, or they'd have done things we'd be able to notice and have to cover them up after the fact. It's conceivable, but it wouldn't be easy to hide that they were summarily executing mentats in the opening phase of the war or some such.

Can we tear into Linderly again over this Lecarran issue? This was pretty freaking serious. He could have done untold amounts of damage to our relationships with our affiliates and member worlds.
Linderley is probably already making it harder for the Lecarre than it should be, but it would be reasonable to give him a slap on the wrist for excessive complacency regarding them.

Honestly our best bet is to loudly complain that the Cardassians aren't keeping their thralls in check. Highlight the fact that the Cardassians expect their clients to have no independence at all.

At the very least it'll embarrass the Cardassians by making them look weak (Even if the Cardassians okayed the operation they look weak because they got caught. It's embarrassing.)
Yeah, if we can find a way to push this, or if the FDS has already thought of it, that's great. Because it places the Cardassians in a bad situation.

Either they have to acknowledge that they have the power to compel their 'affiliates' to abstain from undesired actions, which diminishes the credibility of their claim to be protecting anyone's sovereignty or autonomy...

Or they have to acknowledge that they lack this power, in which case the Treaty of Celos is a farce and we can reasonably demand a renegotiation that allows us the opportunity to defend themselves against our vassals' actions.

That said, I think we'll need a more overt provocation than this. The Lecarre infiltrator here is an embarrassment to us, because one of our senior officials was replaced by an alien for three years and we didn't even notice apparently.

1. I want the operation to convince them to stick to SIGINT. I think stealing the bulk of their HUMINT, with the aim blowing the cover of all their spis (or us holding them hostage... sort of) will convince them that sticking to SIGINT is the best course of action. I recognize that compartmentalization is a thing, but getting direct access would still throw a spanner in their works

2. 90% confident that it won't lead to war. I doubt that the Lecarre would leave their spook stuff in a populated area where anyone can stumble upon it, so it's not like we'd be raiding their capitol or anything
What makes you think there is any single location we can physically attack to capture "ALL THE SPIES?" Why would the Lecarre have any single central base conveniently labeled "This is where we keep all our secret intel and surgically alter all our infiltrators!"
 
We would have noticed what was wrong a LONG time ago if the Lecarre impersonating the ambassador had done anything other than carry out our own orders. I'm pretty sure the Lecarre agent was just passively ferrying information back home.
No contact with the rest of the diplomatic service, family, friends, business associates, ... ? No one had questions? For three years? Where did the Lecarre get this amount of background info? Telepaths? Obsidian Order? ... ?
 
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