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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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Nervos Belli said:
Two questions.

1. Do you actually think retaliating will make the Lecarre stop their shenanigans? Because everything we know about them says they'll just up the ante.

2. How certain are you this won't start a war?

There's very little to be gained from retaliating, and much to be lost. It's really not worth the risk.
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1. I want the operation to convince them to stick to SIGINT. I think stealing the bulk of their HUMINT, with the aim blowing the cover of all their spis (or us holding them hostage... sort of) will convince them that sticking to SIGINT is the best course of action. I recognize that compartmentalization is a thing, but getting direct access would still throw a spanner in their works

2. 90% confident that it won't lead to war. I doubt that the Lecarre would leave their spook stuff in a populated area where anyone can stumble upon it, so it's not like we'd be raiding their capitol or anything
 
Night said:
This will be the best Dan Brown movie ever. Especially because Straak will be standing right there ready to beat him with a sample hammer if he screws up the science.
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More like "screws up the anything". The guy's historical research, among other things, is shoddy at best, and his DaVinci Code background plot element is stolen directly from another hack historical work called Holy Blood, Holy Grail.
 
KnightDisciple said:
More like "screws up the anything". The guy's historical research, among other things, is shoddy at best, and his DaVinci Code background plot element is stolen directly from another hack historical work called Holy Blood, Holy Grail.
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thamuzz said:
I thought Vulcans were opposed to killing. Even if Straak just taps him, it'll end up like this.
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The fact his survival is not guaranteed is a feature, not a bug. Helps motivate him.
 
AKuz said:
Honestly our best bet is to loudly complain that the Cardassians aren't keeping their thralls in check. Highlight the fact that the Cardassians expect their clients to have no independence at all.

At the very least it'll embarrass the Cardassians by making them look weak (Even if the Cardassians okayed the operation they look weak because they got caught. It's embarrassing.)
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Telling them that they must have missed a rogue faction among one of their client races (because obviously they would never do something against the terms of the treaty they signed) does sound like a fun time. Hell, if we were playing as any group other than the Federation with their truth boner, I'd push for making that version of the story public; force the Cardassians to suck up the shot to their ego or admit that they did in fact violate the terms of the treaty.
 
So, events.

Surprised to see the gowshanar venture into Seyek space, as according to our intel their homeworld is on the far side of Cardassian territory. Anyway, on one hand they don't seem like they seem to not be the kind of Cardassian thrall that we can reason with; less like the Dylaarians and more like the Sydraxians. But on the other, they threatened the Seyek when we had a ship there to protect them. This isn't just a relations boost, it should also increase Seyek fear of the Arshalla Pact and make them more likely to aid us in the event of war.

The Treaty of Celos specified that the Cardassians were to reign in the Lecarre and Sydraxians. We should make a formal complaint about the Lecarre spy would murdered an ambassador.When they blame it on a lone Lecarre criminal, we should destroy an outlying Lecarre facility and blame it on pirates: explain that if the Arshalla Pact takes care to reign in its "criminals" from now on, we will do the same.

Ask Linderley how they were able to get away with this for so long, and how boned we are assuming the spy's intel all made it into Obsidian Order possession (hopefully the Lecarre are still sitting on most of it). Either way, this confirms what I suspected; the Lecarre are much more competent than they appear, and for every unsuccessful spy they send there could be others that we never find out about.

Studying rock worms with the Klingons was nice. Events like this will help keep the Federation and the Klingon Empire at peace. Of course, it's only a matter of time before the Licori get their hands on those worms and adapt them to survive in arid planetary environments.

Speaking of the Licori, it's starting to look like the emperor is little more than a figurehead who is unable to reign in the nobles for the empire's common good. I wonder if we can identify some of the less reckless noble houses and help them undermine their more troublesome rivals?

Caldonian anti-vaxxers are actually deploying anti ship mines now. Situation is more serious than I realized. This should take priority over the Licori/KP situation for the FDS, as the Caldonians are close affiliates of ours and right on our borders.

And Straak cored a fucking planet for us lol.
 
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I sure hope we can do the Caledonian ratification the moment the moratorium ends because it would feel really, really weird to not have them involved in the Kepler design.
 
Briefvoice said:
Not kidding about a lot of events this quarter. Well, right before the Snakepit was a good time to have a political will rush like this. +20pp in a single month.

A little ominous about the Lecarre, though. Their 'body snatcher' shtick is starting to seem less funny all the time.
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Agreed. I mean seriously, three years.

I think at a bare minimum, we should be having regular medical scans, since I very much doubt that Lecarre can pass a serious medical exam even with plastic surgery.

That's probably an important precaution in general given the incidence rate of aches and pains, and wounds and sprains, and a spaceborne plague or two...

Briefvoice said:
So let me get this straight. The terrifying mentats, the reason they went to war in the first place, and what do the Ked Paddah do when capturing them? Executions? No. They get confined to quarters and told to occupy themselves with theory work. The Ked Paddah really don't seem like such bad eggs, now do they?
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:D

We don't seem to have gotten a relationship status with the Goshawnar after this first contact.
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Given the Treaty of Celos, I'm not sure it's possible for us to have meaningful relations with the Goshawnar. A relationship stat may be hidden or irrelevant until some other event overtakes the Treaty of Celos.

pheonix89 said:
"Yes. The use of high level bio-manipulation technology only possessed and used by the Lecarre in his disguise."
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"We're flattered that you think we're the only competent people in the universe, but if you think that no one is as good at the Lecarre at biomanipulation, you are sadly unaware of the possibilities. Here, enjoy a massive selection of our popular novels all of which agree that we are among the least sneaky races in the quadrant and everyone else is out to get us."
 
Simon_Jester said:
Agreed. I mean seriously, three years.

I think at a bare minimum, we should be having regular medical scans, since I very much doubt that Lecarre can pass a serious medical exam even with plastic surgery.
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I think this is one of those things where we have our tests and they have their ways around the tests. I don't know exactly what those ways are, but I'm sure they have them.
 
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OneirosTheWriter said:
Captain's Log, USS Enterprise, Stardate 25387.4 - Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan

"We are the Goshawnar of Lodshar, Lords of Air and Star," was how they introduced themselves.

"Captain, respectfully, but you'll be lords of an ionised particle cloud if you don't drop that weapon's lock on the Certitude," may have been how I replied...
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The Enterprise crew doesn't take shit from anyone!

OneirosTheWriter said:
Captain's Log, USS S'harien, Stardate 25390.2

I do not believe that I have ever heard science described as the "Life or Death battle against ignorance!"

Nonetheless, I must say that Chag, son of Kowrak, is a most talented scientist, with many insights into torpedo technology. Insights which were shared with me as we prepared to fire precisely calibrated charges into the 54433 Astia planetoid, looking to draw a collection of the rockborers.
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That is amazing!

OneirosTheWriter said:
Starfleet Intelligence Flash Alert
To: All Commands, All Systems

Flash Alert - Federation-Romulan policy update.

Non-Aggression Pact in effect. rpt. Non-Aggression Pact in effect.
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OneirosTheWriter said:
Federation Broadcast News

The Mars Accord between the United Federation of Planets and the Romulan Star Empire ushers in a new era to a galaxy once riven with fear and rivalry. A pledge of peaceful coexistence and non-aggression, with a framework for conflict resolution, has been signed in orbit around Sol IV, or Mars by the local name. It is anticipated that negotiations could even see the end of the Romulan Neutral Zone within the next few decades, though both sides say there is as yet no rush.
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OneirosTheWriter said:
Some analysts cast doubt on the value of the treaty, suggesting that this is simply the RSE shoring up their flank before heading to war with the Klingon Empire.
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The same could be said about our conflict with the Cardasian Pact.

pheonix89 said:
Agreed.

Hey, anyone want to see if we can make one of our next-gen ships look like a Constitution-class from the outside as a psychological tactic? Between Enterprise, Cheron, the Connie-B's and various other ships I'm sure a third of the quadrant is scared of Connies and another third sees an incoming Connie as an angel.
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They all share the Saucer, Engineering Hull, Nacelles structure already.

random_npc said:
does anyone else feel like we just saw a season finale for the x-files from the other side? The conspiracy is finally decapitated when even stranger creatures from another world show up to roll up the last bunch, leaving yet more questions and a new batch of alien infiltrators working towards yet stranger ends.
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And then it turns out the new aliens are just Space Cops and it turns into a Buddy Cop Comedy.



AKuz said:
Honestly our best bet is to loudly complain that the Cardassians aren't keeping their thralls in check. Highlight the fact that the Cardassians expect their clients to have no independence at all.

At the very least it'll embarrass the Cardassians by making them look weak (Even if the Cardassians okayed the operation they look weak because they got caught. It's embarrassing.)
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I will support 'loudly complaining.'
 
I agree on most points, including that we should lodge a complaint with Cardassia, but no more than that.

Leila Hann said:
The Treaty of Celos specified that the Cardassians were to reign in the Lecarre and Sydraxians. We should make a formal complaint about this. When they blame it on a lone Lecarre criminal, we should destroy an outlying Lecarre facility and blame it on pirates: explain that if the Arshalla Pact takes care to reign in its "criminals" from now on, we will do the same.
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However, the main issue here is that spy was in place before the Treaty of Celos was even an idea. They likely decided to just leave him in place than deal with the fallout of outing him. We wouldn't be likely to just hand the man over had they outed them. By the letter of the treaty, there is no violation by just leaving him there, and by doing more than just making noise at Cardassia (for instance a 'pirate attack') we would be in direct violation.

They used a loophole, and it sucks.

What I find fucking appalling is the SFI reps attitude to the whole situation. He practically laughed it off at first.
 
Forgothrax said:
That's nice.

Exactly what do you expect to happen if we push the Cardassians to stop the Lecarre from doing this?

And if the Cardassians don't take action (which they won't) what do you want to do about it? Spark off the war early by blowing something of the Lecarre's up?

We have an Intel admiral specced against this stuff, and we know very well what the Lecarre are capable of. We're taking what precautions we can. Starting a war over something like this, as infuriating as it may be, isn't worth it.

Think of this like North Korea. Ignoring them is the best option.
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Plus I think far too many here simply equate Lecarre people with the Lecarre government. I mean sure from what we know this is highly likely but I think being sure of it/proving it is far more difficult. Without that surety openly acting against the Lecarre is in my eyes not as easy or simple as many here make it out to be...
 
Nix said:
I think we are at 225 rp now, we need 224 for the existing teams, and have an additional quarter ahead of us. Quarters where we earn less than 10 rp are rare, so I think it's reasonable to recruit an extra team; even if we fall short we only need to deactivate one generic team.
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Yeah we are at 225 now so medical team at the snakepit
 
Does anyone remember what we roll for diplomacy currently? I'm trying to figure out if a plan to push Honiani/Yan-Ros to membership by 2317 is feasible.
 
pbluekan said:
However, the main issue here is that spy was in place before the Treaty of Celos was even an idea. They likely decided to just leave him in place than deal with the fallout of outing him. We wouldn't be likely to just hand the man over had they outed them. By the letter of the treaty, there is no violation by just leaving him there, and by doing more than just making noise at Cardassia (for instance a 'pirate attack') we would be in direct violation.

They used a loophole, and it sucks.

What I find fucking appalling is the SFI reps attitude to the whole situation. He practically laughed it off at first.
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Good catch. Yeah, I guess we're limited to just grilling Linderley.
 
2314.Q1 Captains Log
60 PP
25 RP
+25 Laio
+25 Yan-Ros
+25 Caldonia
+25 Seyek
+10 Honiani
20 br colony
10 sr colony
45 sr
30 br
10 br/yr gbz
15 sr/yr gbz
 
Briefvoice said:
It's not even a joke, because their assets literally included, "a second-hand Yrillian corsair".
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There's good story potential for a Romulan who was exiled from the Star Empire, settled down as a merchant on Yrillia, and then later in life acts as a deniable middle-man in Tal'Shiar schemes to put equipment in the hands of groups who oppose their enemies/sell a bunch of shitty cruisers.

Sort of like a cross between Garak and Quark.

pbluekan said:
What I find fucking appalling is the SFI reps attitude to the whole situation. He practically laughed it off at first.
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I kind of expected it to be revealed he was a Lacarre too.
 
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