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[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
Lock in 1 general, retainer and heir action next turn. Start Interlude "The Enduring War Rune"

[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
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It occurs to me that Thungi probably tried to yeet the hammer at Yorri at least once before he "I'm not worthy"'d himself out of contention. Because he very obviously is, regardless of his hangups about it due to an event he could do nothing about.

It occurs to me given that Yorri was most certainly a direct apprentice of Durin - and probably his son or a direct nephew - our runesmithing master lineage is incredibly short for the pick Snorri was. (Thungi-Durin-Yorri-Snorri)
 
It occurs to me given that Yorri was most certainly a direct apprentice of Durin - and probably his son or a direct nephew - our runesmithing master lineage is incredibly short for the pick Snorri was. (Thungi-Durin-Yorri-Snorri)
Uhmm Mate? you alright? cause ya forgeting something rather significant

[X]Relation: distant bond.
You are, by the barest of definitions, a member of the clan of Thungni. Though dwarfs don't believe in the dilution of blood in such a sensem none expected you to do as well as you have. Especially compared to those of more direct descent. (Gain: A flat foundation, ripe for building something worthy of legend, but you'll have to haggle and bargain for the material.)
Ya might be right with Yorri. But Snorri just got lucky with being in the blast radiuos. Might be an Aprentice of Durin, why not, but he's not exacly a teacher at heart . then again it might just be his school of thoughts.

And now I wonder about Joll chances to shine, cause dude is in Fjolla league by theory yet he's not as shiny.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
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Scheduled vote count started by soulcake on Mar 27, 2024 at 11:54 PM, finished with 183 posts and 126 votes.
 
Scheduled vote count started by soulcake on Mar 27, 2024 at 11:54 PM, finished with 183 posts and 126 votes.

Snorri's Dawi Analogue of the Prefrontal Cortex and Hippocampus: *click
Snorri: KARSTAAAH! Pack your luggage, we're going on a field trip.
 
It occurs to me that Thungi probably tried to yeet the hammer at Yorri at least once before he "I'm not worthy"'d himself out of contention. Because he very obviously is, regardless of his hangups about it due to an event he could do nothing about.

It occurs to me given that Yorri was most certainly a direct apprentice of Durin - and probably his son or a direct nephew - our runesmithing master lineage is incredibly short for the pick Snorri was. (Thungi-Durin-Yorri-Snorri)
Yeah it worked out well too since it seems like Durin also followed the path of HIGH ENERGY runesmithing. It's interesting how all of the potential choices for Snorri's master would have been pretty close to Thungni. Yorri through Durin, Angkra is literally his daughter so it would have been even closer than with Yorri. The only one that's ambiguous is Gottri since we don't know how far down the apprentice tree he was from Thungni but it's been implied he's pretty old as well.
 
We are who we are.
And Snorri is The Gift Giver.
Their Teacher
... You just reminded me that Snorri's theme is GENEROUS GIFT GIVING. In this he is like the ancestors.
And in this path he follows them without rest, pause, thought and without excuses.

This is his nature. This is his purpose.
This is what the Dawi are missing. They count too dearly.
And this holds true for the future of the Dawi, tainted by terrible infinite loss as it will be. That he hold true to his nature even after the terrible infinite void that is the loss of his wife.

That he give unto others his utmost.
That he Claw back from the darkest future, brightest destiny.
That the enemy shall only go this far and no farther.

Fuck this is a good quest.

[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built
 
shortest vote ever?

@soulcake: The "Snorri's Thoughts and beliefs of the Burudin and Primer on Durin the Lost" info threadmark seems to have gotten misplaced among the chapters.
 
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"Coulda died…" she says.

"Aye," you confirm.

"My boys would have had to go without a mother, my husband would have had to bury me," she continues.
A near death experience in turn 52.

You watch your apprentice finally take a swig of the Trollbrew, finishing it in two gulps before she continues her explanation.

"I don't want to bury one of my sons Master," she whispers, "I can't imagine that world, I won't, let alone live in it."

No one ought to, she doesn't say.
I bet Fjolla is the first to make her Smelter.

Any takers, or is that too much of a sucker bet?
 
I imagine our bird friend boy would be second given that adamantium is much more lighter and it would give few elite Branas great protection.
I would agree, but not for the same reasons.

His son Skarri is pioneering fighting from Griffon back, which is probably one of the most dangerous tactical positions.
Fjolla: I can't leave my sons motherless. And I won't bury my children.
Dolgi: My son flies himself into danger every battle. If anyone can use Adamant Armor, it's him.

I take it back, it's definitely not a sucker's bet. It's a race between Fjolla and Dolgi, and they're neck to neck.

I don't think it's been mentioned, but are Fjolla and Joll's children runesmiths? I don't think so, they haven't had much screentime yet.
Because if they aren't I could see those two beardlings going to battle wearing a princely panoply made of Adamant.
 
Its also worth noting that out of all our apprentices, Dolgi uses the most metal due to his client's size so the Greater Smelter design is honestly best for him.
 
I don't think it's been mentioned, but are Fjolla and Joll's children runesmiths? I don't think so, they haven't had much screentime yet.
Because if they aren't I could see those two beardlings going to battle wearing a princely panoply made of Adamant.

It's quite possible they are, as the talent seems to be hereditary, both their parents are runesmitus, and Fjolla at least is very talented.

It may just not have come up in the narrative.
 
A near death experience in turn 52.


I bet Fjolla is the first to make her Smelter.

Any takers, or is that too much of a sucker bet?
honestly Depending on what her Children job is I could see her making them adamant armor. Only reason were not making Karstah equips as being a runesmith it would be disrespectful to force equipment on her.

It's quite possible they are, as the talent seems to be hereditary, both their parents are runesmitus, and Fjolla at least is very talented.

It may just not have come up in the narrative.
They havent been in narrative in anyway yeh. Though when we opened khazagar Fjolla eldest felt Thungni was looking at him when seeing his statue so he might have the Gift.
 
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Runesmithing is IIRC inheritable insofar that noone not descended from Thungni (apart from the other ancestors) has ever demonstrated to have the talent as far as is known, but it only pops up sporadically, even "Runesmith Clans" will not have everyone have the ability, and probably only a fraction.

With two Runesmith parents the chance is definitely there, but its still a die roll.
 
It's quite possible they are, as the talent seems to be hereditary, both their parents are runesmitus, and Fjolla at least is very talented.

It may just not have come up in the narrative.
Dolgi is the exception with his gromril-seed. And Klorah is not even a runesmith.

Snorri is one runesmith out of three siblings, born to non-runesmith parents.

Snerra is one runesmith out of seven, born to non runesmith parents.

It's more likely that they aren't, tbh.

honestly Depending on what her Children job is I could see her making them adamant armor. Only reason were not making Karstah equips as being a runesmith it would be disrespectful to force equipment on her.

They havent been in narrative in anyway yeh. Though when we opened khazagar Fjolla eldest felt Thungni was looking at him when seeing his statue so he might have the Gift.
Fjolla's children first appear in turn 47 (Stokki was a baby, and she was pregnant with Snorri), Khazagar opened in turn 53. So, her youngest should have been ~50.
 
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