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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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[ ] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go alone.
Lock in 1 general and retainer action next turn. Start Interlude "The Enduring War Rune"

[ ] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Send Karstah
Lock in 1 heir and retainer action next turn. Have the option to follow Karstah instead of Snorri next turn.

[ ] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
Lock in 1 general, retainer and heir action next turn. Start Interlude "The Enduring War Rune"




[ ] [Adamant:] Do not offer them Adamant.

[ ] [Adamant:] Offer each of them [Write-in] Bars of Adamant.
You have x76 Bars of Adamant.

[ ] [Adamant:] Offer each of them [Write-in] Bars of Adamant a turn.
You produce x10 Bars of Adamant a Turn

[ ] [Adamant:] Offer each of them [Write-in] Bars of Adamant a turn, staring when the next smelter is constructed.
You will produce x16 Bars of Adamant a Turn

[ ] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone.
You have x7 Shards of Voidstone

[ ] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter
You have x7 Shards of Voidstone
You have x76 Bars of Adamant.

[ ] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
You have x7 Shards of Voidstone
You have x76 Bars of Adamant.

[ ] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a test. Using [Write-in] Bars of Adamant from your stock, craft a masterpiece to prove they are worthy of using the metal.
Reward for success: [Write-in] Bars of Adamant a turn.
Reward for failure: your disappointemt. For shame, beardling!
You produce x10 Bars of Adamant a Turn
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
Lock in 1 general, retainer and heir action next turn. Start Interlude "The Enduring War Rune"
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
Edit: Would be a hell of an upgrade to go from T2 Nameless Axe to Kazak-Kazak-Rhun though lol.

No way Snorri will wield it. He'll have an aneurysm trying to decide that the reason he will inevitably shave his beard is because he either does something that damages the hallowed relic or because he insulted Thungni by just thinking his hammer is of such poor quality as to be damaged just like that. :V

More like he'll probably remand it to the care of the Runesmith's guild while claiming the right for himself, Yorri, Karstah and maybe his apprentices, to study it.

I don't know if he can afford to or should decide to house it in Khazagar. That'll likely be the straw that broke the porter beardling's back for a lot of traditionalist dawi.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.

If they're making a Smelter, they should make the GOOD one.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.

No way Snorri will wield it. He'll have an aneurysm trying to decide that the reason he will inevitably shave his beard is because he either does something that damages the hallowed relic or because he insulted Thungni by just thinking his hammer is of such poor quality as to be damaged just like that. :V
Yorri said that the rightful wielder was among those that were given the riddle.
Not custodian or warden.
Wielder.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.


I do not think anything beside Go Together ever had a chance of winning and to be fair it is also the right choice in any put pure mecahnical action economy and I do not think that is worth it, that is not what makes this quest great.

The Voidstone offer on the other hand manages to balance the mechanical efficiency and Snori-like generosity. We get to keep our stocks of Adamant while also sharing Voidstones with worthy smiths that expand the overall amount of the metal to the Karaz Ankor. What's not to like?
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
Lock in 1 general, retainer and heir action next turn. Start Interlude "The Enduring War Rune"
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
You have x7 Shards of Voidstone
You have x76 Bars of Adamant.

Honestly I think the best bet would be this options being the prize for the test option. But that isn't a vote so never mind.

I hope we get back soon enough to use the fucking hammer on the one eye squid freaks.
 
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[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
Lock in 1 general, retainer and heir action next turn. Start Interlude "The Enduring War Rune"

[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.

Both of these adamant offers are acceptable to me and going together is just obvious.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.

[ ] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a test. Using [3] Bars of Adamant from your stock, craft a masterpiece to prove they are worthy of using the metal.
Reward for success: [1] Bars of Adamant a turn.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.

Father and daughter bonding adventure

[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.

Seems like a good way to get them using Adamant stuff while not really messing with Snorri's amount of Adamant long term.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go together.
Lock in 1 general, retainer and heir action next turn. Start Interlude "The Enduring War Rune"

I like the idea of holding to the Runesmith's Oath a bit in the trial for the worthy option, Adamant isn't about the volume it's about the process. The Brotherhood had their way, the Snorri improved upon it with his, now Karstah has improved again. Minds each turning the methodology of adamant over again sifting the good from the bad.

But at the same time they've all made their journeys and have come into their own. Let's have them benefit from the foundation their Ancestors built, and see what they make on it and give them a goal to pursue via the "loan" to ensure they know this isn't a gift but a show of faith in their ability because we aren't writing off the adamant we give them but instead Snorri is entirely expecting them to be able to return it in kind.

[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
[X] [Karaz-Kazak-Rhun:] Go alone.

[X] [Adamant:] Offer each of them a shard of Voidstone and loan enough Adamant [x10] to make a Greater Smelter. The Adamant will be repaid once the smelter is built.
 
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