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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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So iirc the time warping magic wasn't concentrated around the hold. Should we be afraid of getting bit in the ass? Or do you reckon we have time?
 
Instead of turning the shard into loot why don't we just give it to the Ancestors to deal with, I mean can the stupid thing face all the Ancestors in their prime, in their hall of power?
It could be enough to destroy Hashut once and for all since the fragment would still be connected to the rest of him and they would have the power to reach him.
It would be really interesting to see what the Ancestors does with it.

And no Gazul is just one Ancestor too busy hammering Hashut body than looking at the bits flying off, he's like a dwarf John Wick compare to the other Ancestors.
 
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Raeyx said:
Aside everything else, Ghal Maraz was made by Smednir. No matter how good Snorri gets, unless he becomes an Ancestor God himself it's unlikely he'll ever be able to improve on the work of the Ancestor God of the forge.
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In my brain-addled state of affairs, I was referring to this bit (emphasis my own):
Saga of Sigmar Heldenhammer said:
"Mighty is Sigmar, who saves a Dwarf king from dishonour,
How can I reward him?
A hammer of war, a hammer of Iron, which fell from the sky with two tongues of fire,
From the Forge of the Gods,
Worked by Runesmiths,
Ghal Maraz its name, the Splitter of Skulls."
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though I'll readily admit, I was as clear as the mud.
In my defense, I was quite literally stream-of-thought typing.

I told you that that was my brain being weird.
 
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just a proposal for the hypothetical Hashut loot, sword with MBreaking, Daemon slaying and Gazul, give it away to the dwarf inquisitors dwarf witchhunters Order of the Watchers, "May you break the works of chaos as Gazul did"
:p
Actually nah lets not give away a possible T5
 
I'd say a sword with Master Rune of Purification, Rune of Fire or Stone, and Rune of Gazul would be my favoured use of a Hashut reagent.

Although I would be more than willing to trial a combo of those three without a high tier reagent and then if it works compress it, and then using the hypothetical Hashut reagent on the new Master Rune plus Daemonslaying + Stone or Fire (whichever wasn't used before).

Snorri has his hammer as a tool. Making a sword, a pure weapon, would seem appropriate for him to use to prosecute this kind of Grudge. I'd certainly be willing to give it away to the Cult of Gazul as well.

I'd prefer to make anything using a Hashut derived component from T5 Runemetal as well, to emphasise its incorruptibility. This is something that's worth spending plenty of time on to do right. It's an eternal grudge after all. It's a shame we don't get a mechanical bonus to performing research or making items to prosecute the Grudge.
 
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Alratan said:
I'd say a sword with Master Rune of Purification, Rune of Fire or Stone, and Rune of Gazul would be my favoured use of a Hashut reagent.

Although I would be more than willing to trial a combo of those three without a high tier reagent and then if it works compress it, and then using the hypothetical Hashut reagent on the new Master Rune plus Daemonslaying + Stone or Fire (whichever wasn't used before).

Snorri has his hammer as a tool. Making a sword, a pure weapon, would seem appropriate for him to use to prosecute this kind of Grudge. I'd certainly be willing to give it away to the Cult of Gazul as well.

I'd prefer to make anything using a Hashut derived component from T5 Runemetal as well, to emphasise its incorruptibility. This is something that's worth spending plenty of time on to do right. It's an eternal grudge after all. It's a shame we don't get a mechanical bonus to performing research or making items to prosecute the Grudge.
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It could also make a nice weapon for a Gazul gronti too. After all if we are making a Grimnir gronti we should make a full set once the other ancestors leave too.
 
No7sHere said:
Wouldn't a grudge rune against Hashut be more suitable in that case?
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A Grudge Rune against the Cult of Hashut might, but I'd prefer something that would also work equally well against any daemons. We can see from what's happening inside the Karak that Tzeentchian daemons are messing around with the dwarves, and I don't see why the other three wouldn't try it on with subversion now that the Hashut ploy hasn't succeeded as well as they hoped.

The Cult of Gazul will have to deal with all of them as well.
 
We should consider making an item to help hunt down Hashut cultists and donate it to the cult (of Gazul). I'm imagining something like an amulet that guides its wearer toward them, maybe M-Wandering + Gazul + Seeking? Replace the Gazul with a grudge rune maybe? Maybe even something like seeking + Gazul + grudge rune comboed into a master rune then two other runes added. Working out combos to do something specific is hard.

However we do it we want to wipe out Hashut cultists completely or keep them under so much pressure they can never do anything beyond scrabbling to survive.
 
I think the best way to keep the Hashut Cult suppressed is to ensure dwarven prosperity. It seems likely to become a last resort of the desperate, re-emerging in times of stress. Of course, that's easier said than done.

Hunting cultists is something that collaboration with the elves and griffins might help with. They can suggest or inspire concepts that might not occur to us.

One thing we might want to watch out for is Hashut trying to extend his cult to the elves. Tyranny fits right into future Malekith's MO.

Picking up on another question someone asked last night, the big thing that has been butterflied isn't black orcs, it's that the chaos dwarves won't teach greenskin slaves metalworking, so they won't go on to escape and spread that knowledge to other greenskins across the world. Savage orcs are still dangerous, but they're a lot less dangerous than orcs with metal weapons and armour. And tools, for making siege engines, etc
 
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Alratan said:
I'd prefer to make anything using a Hashut derived component from T5 Runemetal as well,
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... I think this is misleading. You'd prefer to make everything out of the T5 rune metal. We've had this argument everytime. What you mean to say is
Alratan said:
I think an anti Hashut or generally anti chaos material is another reason to use a T5 Runemetal as well, as above and beyond normal gomril this might emphasis uncorruptability.
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And public service announcement, compressing a combo made from superior reagents will not improve the combo, observe that Makerstrike/Mountainsouled/Stormthingy all describe a weaker combo in the rune list than creations of note do. We compress that, not the effect with Reagents.
And I'd be willing to support either hypothetically but not both.
Jreengus said:
We should consider making an item to help hunt down Hashut cultists and donate it to the cult (of Gazul). I'm imagining something like an amulet that guides its wearer toward them, maybe M-Wandering + Gazul + Seeking? Replace the Gazul with a grudge rune maybe? Maybe even something like seeking + Gazul + grudge rune comboed into a master rune then two other runes added. Working out combos to do something specific is hard.

However we do it we want to wipe out Hashut cultists completely or keep them under so much pressure they can never do anything beyond scrabbling to survive.
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This feels really risky, however would be very curious to see more since it sounds like a possible way to get into the pre cog and luck based runes.
 
Another way is to make an items so that holds can communicate even when cut off so they don't fall into despair and into the grasp of chaos.
Maybe 🤔
 
soulcake said:
"But that risks letting our sorcerous mastermind create yet more foul befuddlement or worse," Dwalin rumbles
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There should be a period after rumbles.

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"I am Katalin Dourhelm, senior member of the Order of the Watchers and veteran of the Deep War persecuted in the east, and I've been tasked with informing the right people about the current situation so that they may act appropriately," they explain.
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they explain should be he explains.
 
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Dain II Ironfoot said:
Another way is to make an items so that holds can communicate even when cut off so they don't fall into despair and into the grasp of chaos.
Maybe 🤔
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Sounds like somehting that the Rule of pride will trash, and also pretty obnoxious because the rune of pride would make that a magically loud horn or something.
Unless you had an idea for what could do it.
MrHobbit said:
they explain should be he explains
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they is valid grammar in this sentence.
 
TehChron said:
All I'm saying is to Give Hashut a chance
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FTFY Oathbreaker

That was awesome. Snorri beating down the gate, His reaction to this. This is some great Writing.
In terms of rewards, The death of Hashuts priest would be reward enough and removing/destroying a piece of hashut from circulation. If I was really greedy I would hope for some voidstone out of this, Build up the stocks :wink:
 
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