Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

[Nuts!]

This was a while ago and I have no idea if this is still needed but I may as well shitpost this in here to make sure nobody hasn't seen it

Spoiler: Night after Ugo and Mura's wedding

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friggin manga everyone looks like they're 10 years old rabble rabble rabble @GonnaSneeze, while we're aware that you had quoted that comic excerpt as a meme rather than to titillate, the source material is all kinds of not-OK. I'm an ign'nt Murkan barbarian who barely has the faintest understanding about Japanese media, and even I understand that "loli hentai manga" prooobably isn't SFW material, especially not a story about an underage girl getting tricked into getting railed by three dudes (for the curious, the source material was The Light Of Tsukimi Manor; Google "POMF =3 meme" and read the KYM article). As a site which must steer clear of three different countries' sometimes-conflicting rules about child pornography (Australia, the US, and Canada), we want to give a wide berth to any sort of content which might get us in legal hot water. Therefore, I've removed the content and applied a small infraction.

I'd like to remind everyone, if you aren't sure about whether something you're about to post is OK or not, then post it first in the Ask A Private Question subforum. Having to infract people is a pain in the ass, and we're all volunteers; we'd much rather say "OK" or "not OK" on problematic content before the fact than have to deal with actually punishing people after it's already been posted. So for your sake and ours, if you aren't sure about whether it's OK to post pages from a loli h-doujin then ask before you post!

 

[AuraTwilight]

Also, "Pomf" is a shitty, unfunny oldmeme anyway. LilyPichu perfected it and the rest of the internet moved on as a result, so...

It wasn't even worth getting an infraction over. :U

 

[Onmur]

Er, Sabrina does stuff with her grief without looking all the time. Whenever she's moving her big stores of grief around rooftops without looking, for instance. Or when she's playing grief instruments without looking at them. Or with Mecha Gurren Zilla Laggen (sp?), where she was controlling it without being able to see more than a small fraction of it.

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But when we made tea with Grief without looking, we spilled it.

 

[Nele]

[x]Kaizuki

 

[Kaizuki]

Stealing Redshirt's non-breakfast-related stuff if somebody is going to vote the same thing I did because there's no reason not to have the other stuff in with the vote. @Nele

[X] Wait for Mami to wake up. Keep her hugged the whole time.
-[X] When she wakes up, give her a little time to gain some lucidity, then nudge her into flipping over so she's facing you. Maintain the hug constantly.
--[X] Ask what she wants for breakfast. When she inevitably wavers and asks what you want, inform her that you want her to have what she wants and (playfully) that you'll not allow her to stand in the way of Mami Tomoe enjoying her Breakfast to the Utmost Possible Extent.
---[X] If she continues to protest, playfully threaten to tickle the information out of her.
---[X] If she drops some line about getting the most enjoyment out of seeing you happy, inform her that an impasse has developed because the same is true from your point of view, and why don't you just resolve it by having what she really wants for breakfast. You insist.

[X] While making breakfast, don't push, but inquire about what we're making for the picnic, and how that works for the day's schedule.
-[X] During breakfast, do your "Good Morning Mitakihara" thing.
--[X] If scheduled cooking/baking time permits, confirm morning training with Sayaka. Keep the session relatively short.
---[X] Once more, time permitting, try and squeeze in some practice (Between just you and Mami) on the schedule before Sayaka's training.
[X] After breakfast, contact Nagisa's uncle and extend her an official invitation.

 

[UbeOne]

New:

[x] Kaizuki

 

[Vebyast]

---[X] If she drops some line about getting the most enjoyment out of seeing you happy, inform her that an impasse has developed because the same is true from your point of view, and why don't you just resolve it by having what she really wants for breakfast. You insist.

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Alternatively, attempt to resolve the dispute by splitting the difference. Mami would dearly love waffles, you feel like you want omelettes. Answer: do the omelettes in the waffle iron! Argument to moderation? What argument to moderation?

 

[Redshirt Army]

[X] Wait for Mami to wake up. Keep her hugged the whole time.
-[X] When she wakes up, give her a little time to gain some lucidity, then nudge her into flipping over so she's facing you. Maintain the hug constantly.
--[X] Ask what she wants for breakfast. When she inevitably wavers and asks what you want, inform her that you want her to have what she wants and (playfully) that you'll not allow her to stand in the way of Mami Tomoe enjoying her Breakfast to the Utmost Extent.
---[X] If she drops some line about getting the most enjoyment out of seeing you happy, inform her that an impasse has developed because the same is true from your point of view, and why don't you just resolve it by having what she really wants for breakfast. You insist.
----[x] Playfully ruminate out loud about whether a maid outfit is appropriate when preparing food for the inimitable Lady Tomoe.
-----[x] Mood permitting, go full maid.

[X] While making breakfast, don't push, but inquire about what we're making for the picnic, and how that works for the schedule.
-[X] During breakfast, do your "Good Morning Mitakihara" thing.
--[X] If scheduled cooking/baking time permits, confirm morning training with Sayaka. Keep the session relatively short.
[X] After breakfast, contact Nagisa's uncle and extend her an official invitation.

 

[Sereg]

[x]Kaizuki

 

[DB_Explorer]

[x]Kaizuki


Random thought on helping Mami... two ways to help people (and I may explain it poorly) one is what we are already doing which is a slow essentially methodical application of support to help her come to terms with her issues. The other option is likely quicker to a point but its basically following the analogy that to fix a truly broken engine you have to take it apart - which sucks if your the engine. We can't ever use the latter option on Mami due to magical girls emotional state being linked to their very life.

On the other hand we need to get Mami more friends! ... and Homura more friends! ... Make Homura and Mami friends! They can talk about guns!

 

[Shadows]

[x] Kaizuki

 

[TechSY730]

But when we made tea with Grief without looking, we spilled it.

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Simple solution.
Make a grief eyeball, and make sure to "route" its sight to us, so we can watch while we do it.

There is nothing weird or creepy about that, what are you talking about?

(Ok, more seriously, seeing if we can replicate senses using grief might be good for the "science list", and if we do it, we would want to start with something less creepy like an camera or something like skin we can "feel" through)

 

[Sereg]

I still support getting a therapist involved. We don't have Hikari, so let's get the next best thing.

 

[Redshirt Army]

Simple solution.
Make a grief eyeball, and make sure to "route" its sight to us, so we can watch while we do it.

There is nothing weird or creepy about that, what are you talking about?

(Ok, more seriously, seeing if we can replicate senses using grief might be good for the "science list", and if we do it, we would want to start with something less creepy like an camera or something like skin we can "feel" through)

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It's on the shortlist for today's session already. Lemme dig it up.

E: Here's the shortlist, plus another (relatively) easy to test thought I had. You'll note we already purchased the laser pointer one of the tests calls for.

Looking at our schedule, we're actually free tommorow morning, but given the way things are shaping up, we'll probably want to stick with Mami during that time since I expect the Metabomb to kick her into ultralimpet mode.

EN: Well, would you stick a bucket on my head and call me Oriko, cuz I friggin nailed it!

So if we do science tommorow, it should be science that works with Mumi there. Honestly, Mami's scienced the shit out of her own powers, so quite a few of the things we've been meaning to try should be fine - we'll just have to stay away from dewitching/grief seed research.

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Redshirt Army's priority research list:

Theory 1: Sabrina's grief artifacts are unable to affect matter outside of her grief manipulation range, including gathering data on that matter. Sabrina's grief artifacts are able to alter properties within her range in such a way that effects outside her range are indirectly caused. Sabrina is able to alter her own properties in such a way as long as she remains within range of herself, i.e. always.

Data Set 1
• An artifact to boost our sensing range beyond 100 meters was successfully created.
• We were unable to create an artifact to locate individuals outside of our sensing range.

Experiment 1: Apply the property of magnetism to a grief marble, before moving it to the edge of our control radius. Examine the behavior of ferromagnetic materials outside of our control radius in the vicinity of the marble. Repeat the test, this time with a grief construct imbued with conceptual 'attraction'.
Hypothesis: Ferromagnetic material outside of our control range will be attracted to the grief marble, as all properties changed lie within our control radius. Material outside our control range will not be attracted to the grief construct, as it attempts to apply magic directly outside our range.

Experiment 2: Mark the exact distance we can move a grief marble before losing control, from both our grief seed and our body. Create a construct intended to increase our grief control range. Repeat the test to determine our new control range.
Hypothesis: Construct will be successfully created. Control range will increase.

Data Set 2
• Active grief effects are unable to leave Sabrina's control radius.
• Physical changes created by grief persist outside Sabrina's range.

Experiment 1: Create a grief laser pointer, identical to an actual laser pointer purchased earlier. Determine if the light from the laser pointer can leave your control radius. Repeat the test with the purchased laser pointer, having replaced the batteries it came with with grief-construct replicas.
Hypothesis: The 'photons' of the grief laser pointer will dissipate upon leaving our control range. The photons of the actual laser pointer will not, even when powered by grief, as the direct influence of the grief remains within our control area.

Theory 2: Sabrina's grief is metaphysically treated as Sabrina herself.

Data Set 1
• Sabrina's control radius for grief is the same as the soul gem connection range.
• Sabrina's active grief counts as contact with Sabrina for the purposes of Homura's timestop.

Experiment 1: Create a grief camera construct. Have the construct moved to a location outside Sabrina's line of sight, but within her control range, and then used to take a picture. Without changing her position, have Sabrina attempt to describe the photograph taken.
Hypothesis: Sabrina will be able to accurately describe an image that a grief construct saw.

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These tests are all practical, can help increase our abilities in notable ways, contain no risk of infohazard proliferation, and are made simpler with the assistance of a second person. They also tie heavily into my understanding of Sabrina's power - I fully expect those particular outcomes from those tests, and will need to revise my theories for how the power functions if the actual outcomes are different.

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Here's a thought. Grief that leaves our control range doesn't dissipate instantly - it tries to clump together. We're mostly thinking of examining this to see what the 'natural' properties of grief are, but this phenomenon might have a more practical application as well - namely, grief projectiles moving at high speeds might remain coherent long enough to reach their target.

It would be all but useless against witches, but it would greatly increase our effective engagement range in meguca combat, and be far more versatile than trying to use actual physical projectiles accelerated with grief the same way.

So if and when we do our science testing with Mumi, we should try a grief railgun with a grief bullet and see what the range is like.

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For all the talk about railguns, we've never actually made one. It's time to put the "Sufficient Velocity" back in Sabrina, and homage Mami-sempai's BFG at the same time.

 

[Firnagzen]

ePub version of the ebook is updated, and there should be no wrong formatting and so on. If you do encounter it, do tell. PDF version soon. The link shouldn't change, but just in case: Box | Simple Online Collaboration: Online File Storage, FTP Replacement, Team Workspaces

... wait wait whats this about madomom.

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You're awesome.

fuck is this line. What the fuck? Look back at this this makes no sense unless it's referring to the stuff that comes after it.

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This?

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Urgh. Yeah I wrote that bit slightly sleep deprived, I'll edit it - it was supposed to be Sabrina going "yeah I'll stay but I'm slightly uncomfortable about being in the shower with you".

 

[TheFictionAddict]

It's on the shortlist for today's session already. Lemme dig it up.

E: Here's the shortlist, plus another (relatively) easy to test thought I had. You'll note we already purchased the laser pointer one of the tests calls for.





For all the talk about railguns, we've never actually made one. It's time to put the "Sufficient Velocity" back in Sabrina, and homage Mami-sempai's BFG at the same time.

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Don't forget to try and make a Band of Constant Explosion™, to put on Sabrina's Warhammer, for extra KABOOM!


(Oh yeah, better make the Railgun big enough to hold the warhammer in the first place too. Or maybe just make the Band of Constant Explosion™ fit whatever ammo Sabrina might use. Meh, either way.)

 

[DB_Explorer]

"yeah I'll stay but I'm slightly uncomfortable about being in the shower with you".

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That can wait till high school I think....


huh maybe we should add in lines like that .. meaning ones that imply an assumption that our relations with Mami will last at least X period of time. Ie off hand mentions of things that we can do once in college, High School, being able to go drinking etc. We just assume that we're going to be with Mami when those events roll around, its so natural its an assumed fact.

 

[Firnagzen]

Er, Sabrina does stuff with her grief without looking all the time. Whenever she's moving her big stores of grief around rooftops without looking, for instance. Or when she's playing grief instruments without looking at them. Or with Mecha Gurren Zilla Laggen (sp?), where she was controlling it without being able to see more than a small fraction of it.

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Sabrina has absolute proprioception with regards to Grief under her control.

 

[Sereg]

Don't forget to try and make a Band of Constant Explosion™, to put on Sabrina's Warhammer, for extra KABOOM!


(Oh yeah, better make the Railgun big enough to hold the warhammer in the first place too. Or maybe just make the Band of Constant Explosion™ fit whatever ammo Sabrina might use. Meh, either way.)

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Extra Kaboom is not really where we're lacking right now. I'd rather focus on defensive abilities, meta-constructs, trying to get around our range and permanency issues, testing our data-acquisition and acquiring of new abilities.

 

[Kaizuki]

Urgh. Yeah I wrote that bit slightly sleep deprived, I'll edit it - it was supposed to be Sabrina going "yeah I'll stay but I'm slightly uncomfortable about being in the shower with you".

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*cackles*

That does make more sense.

Get gud sleep firn! <3

Extra Kaboom is not really where we're lacking right now. I'd rather focus on defensive abilities, meta-constructs, trying to get around our range and permanency issues, testing our data-acquisition and acquiring of new abilities.

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Grief-move enchant?

 

[TechSY730]

Er, Sabrina does stuff with her grief without looking all the time. Whenever she's moving her big stores of grief around rooftops without looking, for instance. Or when she's playing grief instruments without looking at them. Or with Mecha Gurren Zilla Laggen (sp?), where she was controlling it without being able to see more than a small fraction of it.

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Sabrina has absolute proprioception with regards to Grief under her control.

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Right. The grief itself we can sense where it is perfectly. It's the thing around the grief that we want to get better at not smashing, even when out of range of our normal senses.

 

[TheFictionAddict]

Extra Kaboom is not really where we're lacking right now. I'd rather focus on defensive abilities, meta-constructs, trying to get around our range and permanency issues, testing our data-acquisition and acquiring of new abilities.

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True. Was thinking more of when Walpy comes round'. Add that stuff to Homu's bullets(size doesn't matter after all), and it would be some good help.

As for defensive..hmm, maybe a massive, round shield that can actually extend into a large, spiralling drill? The spinning in shield form could also help with possible deflection of attacks, plus the drill option helps give a surprise attack option if any enemies come up close?(Hopefully point-blank range?)

 

[Sereg]

Grief-move enchant?

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That's not something we're too bad at for now, but we'll need to improve eventually and it would help a bit already, so that could work, yes.

On that line, we can go for:

A: Haste effect granter

B: Reflexes enhancer

C: Teleporter

D: Hyperdrive

Then, we've got wings, but I still want to create an autopilot backpack and there are still other movement modes we can go for. Maybe something that allows us to phase through objects?

However, I still say that we need to focus on stuff that might help Oriko. This also includes meta-constructs as they can increase the speed with which we discover new abilities to help Oriko and data-acquisition testing as it might help us learn more clues about how to help Oriko.

 

[Onmur]

Right. The grief itself we can sense where it is perfectly. It's the thing around the grief that we want to get better at not smashing, even when out of range of our normal senses.

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There was the idea of using Grief clouds to 'see'. If we have perfect proprioception, we theoretically could 'see' what we're doing as long as every surface we work with is coated in Grief.

On the other hand we need to get Mami more friends! ... and Homura more friends! ... Make Homura and Mami friends! They can talk about guns!

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Have Homura try Mami's guns!

Spoiler: Not that she'd be that good with them

 

[UbeOne]

True. Was thinking more of when Walpy comes round'. Add that stuff to Homu's bullets(size doesn't matter after all), and it would be some good help.

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Grief Railguns!