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Firnagzen said:
You're not sure that's something you're entirely willing to do. Especially not with Mami in the state she is. "I promised."
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The fuck is this line. What the fuck? Look back at this this makes no sense unless it's referring to the stuff that comes after it.

Display affection for Mami!

[X] Wait for Mami to wake up. Keep her hugged the whole time.
-[X] When she wakes up, give her a little time to gain some lucidity, then nudge her into flipping over so she's facing you. Maintain the hug constantly.
--[X] Ask what she wants for breakfast. When she inevitably wavers and asks what you want, inform her that you want her to have what she wants and (playfully) that you'll not allow her to stand in the way of Mami Tomoe enjoying her Breakfast to the Utmost Extent.
---[X] If she continues to protest, playfully threaten to tickle the information out of her.
---[X] If she drops some line about getting the most enjoyment out of seeing you happy, inform her that an impasse has developed because the same is true from your point of view, and why don't you just resolve it by having what she really wants for breakfast. You insist.
[] Other stuff goes here. IDK jack shit about other stuff, I'm just Emotional Advisor Catgirl.
 
cmwatford said:
Has it ever occurred to ya'll that Mami might not swing that way? That once she's in the right head space for romance that she might look at us like we grew an extra head when/if we make a move on her?
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Not really, no. Girl's never shown any interest in any male, despite being in the middle of puberty.

If she doesn't swing that way, she's probably asexual...which, admittedly, might make sense, considering she's been a rock for years.
 
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I really don't get how people can talk about romance when it looks like Mami's dependency issues might have worsened (even temporarily). Like, really guys?o_O Their behavior looks and feels initially heartwarming yeah, but there also this sense of "that is seriously unhealthy" going on in the back of my mind that prevents even the chance of me actually enjoying it.

Also, Sayaka was so kind as to try to give us an even earlier good morning wake up call the other day. Maybe we should do the same.:whistle::evil:
 
Higure said:
Not really, no. Girl's never shown any interest in any male, despite being in the middle of puberty.
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:Citation Needed:

But Mami is obviously crushing on Sabrina, though. I mean that time when she blushed when Sayaka had talked about yuri that one time. Or the way she reacted when she saw the single bed in the warehouse and immediately looked at Sabrina, etc. It's kind of blatant.:V
 
Kaizuki said:
The part about whatever itis being something we're not willing to do. We're not sure we're willing to stay? The fuck?
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This?
Are the two of you in a relationship?

That's a stupid question, too. Of course you are.

Not necessarily in the hands-clasped-over cheeks sense. You don't know about that. But you care about Mami. She's nearly always at the forefront of your mind. How often do you choose to do something, or not do something specifically for her sake?

Which, you suppose, answers your earlier question. As you said. You want to be there for her. You like giving her hugs, you like spending time with her. You want her to make her happy, and she makes you happy. Not much of an epiphany, really, but putting it in words is nice. You care about her.

It is that simple. Not easy, but simple.

Mami stirs a little. "Sabrina?"

"Yes, Mami?" you give her a soft, warm smile.

"I-" she tries to smile back, but the expression falters. "I'd l-like t-to clean up but I d-don't w-want to- S-sabrina, you'll stay?"

"I'll stay," you say, smiling firmly, even though you quail a little inside. You're not sure that's something you're entirely willing to do. Especially not with Mami in the state she is. "I promised."
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Agent Whiskers said:
I really don't get how people can talk about romance when it looks like Mami's dependency issues might have worsened (even temporarily). Like, really guys?o_O Their behavior looks and feels initially heartwarming yeah, but there also this sense of "that is seriously unhealthy" going on in the back of my mind that prevents even the chance of me actually enjoying it.

Also, Sayaka was so kind as to try to give us an even earlier good morning wake up call the other day. Maybe we should do the same.:whistle::evil:
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Even unhealthy relationships can be romantic, even happy. If they couldn't, most people would die without ever going on a second date.
 
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LostDeviljho said:
Now on one hand, the bolded twangs my SoD something fierce. On the other, everything after that sounds fairly interesting.
I'll give it a shot, got a link?
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TheFanficAddict said:
I agree with Lost, I too would like a link, if it's okay with you.
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PoptartProdigy said:
I third this request for a link.
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MrLZRS said:
I fourth request for a Linky.
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I unfortunately can't provide. The fanfic was an in-progress thing on a tumblr that perma-hiatused and sank into oblivion when the tumblr was deleted.

I have most of the notes saved, so maybe after INALIAS I'll write it.

cmwatford said:
Has it ever occurred to ya'll that Mami might not swing that way? That once she's in the right head space for romance that she might look at us like we grew an extra head when/if we make a move on her?
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Pfft, everyone knows Magical Girls are all turbo-lesbians that have karmic potential measured by how gay they are.

also more seriously, the recent Mami POV pretty solidly insinuated Mami is crushing on Sabrina really, really fucking hard.

As in, do a search-and-replace for "Mami>Homura" and "Sabrina>Madoka" and read it back to yourself.
 
Kaizuki said:
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Non comprende en el Megucana.
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I took it as she's not willing to deepen their relationship with Mami in this state. Maybe better wording is warranted, though.

Agent Whiskers said:
Also, Sayaka was so kind as to try to give us an even earlier good morning wake up call the other day. Maybe we should do the same.:whistle::evil:
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But we always do that.

Maybe we should, instead of being loud, being really subtle...

[Q] Whisper telepathically to Sayaka: 'Hey Sayaka. Sayaka. Psst. Sayaka. Hey. Seyiku. Hey, listen. Sayaka. Sayaka Sayaka Sayaka Sayaka Sayaka...'
-[Q] Keep doing that until either Sayaka or Mami wake up.
--[Q] If Sayaka wakes up, cut off communication.
 
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Higure said:
Even unhealthy relationships can be romantic, even happy. If they couldn't, most people would without ever going on a second date.
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Most of the time they're trainwrecks, though. Just look at Homura and Madoka's relationship. And they're not even actually together! And it's still uncomfortable as hell. Considering that this is first-person and the one being unhealthily depended on is us (Sabrina if you want to get technical).

Higure said:
We live with her. We have never once observed her showing any interest in a guy, nor had such interest on her part mentioned by any of our friends. We don't have proof she's never shown said interest, but we've had any evidence if such: Not IC or via metaknowledge.
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That really doesn't mean anything. You're grasping at straws here. The only person she shows any remote interest in is Sabrina despite being surrounded by girls. So instead of being into girls, clearly she's just into Sabrina.:V
 
cmwatford said:
Has it ever occurred to ya'll that Mami might not swing that way? That once she's in the right head space for romance that she might look at us like we grew an extra head when/if we make a move on her?
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While that's always possible, it seems pretty unlikely.
Higure said:
We live with her. We have never once observed her showing any interest in a guy, nor had such interest on her part mentioned by any of our friends. We don't have proof she's never shown said interest, but we've had any evidence if such: Not IC or via metaknowledge.
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The really strange part though is that we've never heard of any guys at the school expressing interest in her. Considering how quick some guys are to hit on a pretty girl, that's honestly pretty baffling, because there's always guys who will try even if its widely known that a girl has no interest in men.

Maybe Kyubey does stuff behind the scenes to prevent guys from noticing her chest (either to keep her thinking that it's impossible for magical girls to live a normal life, or because she asked Kyubey to make them stop bugging her)?
 
justinkal said:
The really strange part though is that we've never heard of any guys at the school expressing interest in her. Considering how quick some guys are to hit on a pretty girl, that's honestly pretty baffling, because there's always guys who will try even if its widely known that a girl has no interest in men.

Maybe Kyubey does stuff behind the scenes to prevent guys from noticing her chest (either to keep her thinking that it's impossible for magical girls to live a normal life, or because she asked Kyubey to make them stop bugging her)?
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Because we have no reason to hear about that stuff. We don't go to school, remember? And maybe the QM doesn't want to write about about it because it might feel kind of skeevy. Teenagers are teenagers. I mean, despite Mami crushing on Sabrina, there hasn't been any "inappropriate" staring. Thankfully.
 
Well, what about having Brina tell Mami that she likes her? Would that be OK?

We're supposedly being more honest, so I'd like Brina to be a little more open with her feelings, including the part where she's not ready for romance, but vocalizing how much she likes Mami, still...

I think it'd be good for Mami.
 
justinkal said:
While that's always possible, it seems pretty unlikely.

The really strange part though is that we've never heard of any guys at the school expressing interest in her. Considering how quick some guys are to hit on a pretty girl, that's honestly pretty baffling, because there's always guys who will try even if its widely known that a girl has no interest in men.

Maybe Kyubey does stuff behind the scenes to prevent guys from noticing her chest (either to keep her thinking that it's impossible for magical girls to live a normal life, or because she asked Kyubey to make them stop bugging her)?
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That has bothered me for a while now. As 'developed' as Mami is you'd think the boys would be throwing themselves at her.
 
Higure said:
We live with her. We have never once observed her showing any interest in a guy, nor had such interest on her part mentioned by any of our friends. We don't have proof she's never shown said interest, but we've had any evidence if such: Not IC or via metaknowledge.
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Barely any males appear in the setting, so you can't really tell what anyone thinks of them. :V
 
By the way, does anyone remember when Mami started crushing on Sabrina. I think there might have been hints of it even before she got really dependent.

Onmur said:
Well, what about having Brina tell Mami that she likes her? Would that be OK?

We're supposedly being more honest, so I'd like Brina to be a little more open with her feelings, including the part where she's not ready for romance, but vocalizing how much she likes Mami, still...

I think it'd be good for Mami.
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Heck no. I remember @Firnagzen saying that Mami is perfectly content with her current relationship with Sabrina, unless "certain things" happen or something along those lines. We've pretty much said everything but "I love you" to her already anyway.
 
justinkal said:
We have Word of God that within the timespan of the quest, Mami herself won't make any attempt at moving the relationship in a more romantic direction. Having Sabrina make that first move in the romantic direction before Mami regains her emotional stability and self-confidence would be a really manipulative and exploitive move, which in the long run would harm their relationship and friendship.
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You've dropped a very key caveat in Firn's statement on the matter (emphasis mine):
Firnagzen said:
RE: Mami-Sabrina shipping: Unless certain things happen, Mami'll be happy to continue at roughly this level for the rest of the Quest.
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Note: this was posted in 2014. Since then, their relationship has grown considerably closer - Sabrina started sleeping in the same bed with her, for instance, but just in general Sabrina's view of Mami has been slowly changing into a more romantic one since the very start of the quest. I've argued before this is actually somewhat independent of SV - a logical effect of willingly spending so much time and emotional energy on someone, especially on one who feels so strongly in return.

This all said, Mami still likely won't "ask Sabrina out" right now, but I'm afraid that's more out of fear than out of lack of want for an established relationship. Sabrina shouldn't be making any major moves of her own - as others have pointed out, Mami would have difficulty saying no even if she wanted to - but at the same time, we shouldn't force Sabrina to hold back from Mami.

(EDIT: Apparently I read different quests than most people.) (In general, I sometimes think SV has a weird phobia of relationships between characters. Everyone's apparently asexual, or they're really just close friends, or they couldn't possibly think about a relationship until 9/10 certified psychologists approve. I understand the concerns - often there are very good reasons involved - but suppressing people's feelings is a dangerous road to travel, especially in PMMM. )
 
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Julian Bradshaw said:
(In general, I sometimes think SV has a weird phobia of relationships between characters. Everyone's apparently asexual, or they're really just close friends, or they couldn't possibly think about a relationship until 9/10 certified psychologists approve. I understand the concerns - often there are very good reasons involved - but suppressing people's feelings is a dangerous road to travel.)
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Are you serious? Everyone's always in a rush to push characters together. This is the only quest I've seen where people are willing to wait on it, both IC and OOC.
 
Agent Whiskers said:
Because we have no reason to hear about that stuff. We don't go to school, remember? And maybe the QM doesn't want to write about about it because it might feel kind of skeevy. Teenagers are teenagers. I mean, despite Mami crushing on Sabrina, there hasn't been any "inappropriate" staring. Thankfully.
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There's very easy ways for Sabrina to hear about non-skeevy things that happen on that front. I only mentioned the excessively persistent guys because they would be coming even if they've already been told no in the past. To our knowledge, nothing is stopping a guy from making a polite attempt.

Also, Sabrina is there for the majority of the time that Mami is at school and not in class, which are the main times that any guys would try to approach her, and is frequently taking with Mami during the day, and thus likely to find out if anyone is pestering her.

Also, there's no freaking way that Madoka and/or Sayaka wouldn't comment on it if they saw any guys approach her.
 
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