A little further but yeah.@Academia Nut , the core compromises Sacred Forest, Redshore, Valleyhome, Lower Valleyhome?
Ughh.
Fuck.
Even if they didn't had blackpowder we'd still have gotten wrecked because IT'S GENGHIS KHAN AND THE MONGOLS.
so that excuse doesn't work.
Double voted[X] [Successor] The ancient urban manufactories of the core
[X] [Successor] The ancient urban manufactories of the core
I don't think appeasement is the kind of diplomacy you want us practicing...
It absolutely is when the other option is collapse.I don't think appeasement is the kind of diplomacy you want us practicing...
OTL Mongols did the same, they fielded armies with specialists from everywhere between Mesopotamia and China.I'm a bit whiplashed by the sheer magnitude of the timeskips though, we just heard that gunpowder was invented in the east and then suddenly the not!mongoles have them along with not!Chinese engineers. They obviously didn't invet irt, so they somehow managed to conquer the Not!sing dynasty and then make and equip their armies with gunpowder in a year! Frankly, that's completely bullshit.
@Academia Nut , the core compromises Sacred Forest, Redshore, Valleyhome, Lower Valleyhome?
The East would likely welcome us back. Without the Core to back them up they'd get mutilated by Nomads pretty quickly. The South wouldn't like getting abused by the Highlanders and would be okay with our return. The North is a major issue. They're basically gone though, so they'd be Nomads we can assimilate and tame more easily than most. The West is going to be a bitch to keep, they knelt quickly and blame us for their cowardice, they like being independent so they can slave and war as they wish, so they're going to be the main people we subjugate. But they're not nice, so screw them.I'm not really liking what it looks like we're doing. Core + Territorial Unification makes me worried that the core basically conquered the rest.
Wait so the Core includes knowledge of the Sacred Forest?
We were practicing for a thousands years, and it worked fine.I don't think appeasement is the kind of diplomacy you want us practicing...
OTL Mongols did the same, they fielded armies with specialists from everywhere between Mesopotamia and China.
[] [Successor] The ancient urban manufactories of the core
[] [Revival] A territorial reunification
Considering we have been super charging the nomads because we leak tech like mad, it really isn't.Actually, it does because without blackpowder, they wouldn't have been able to breach our defenses in any reasonable amount of time, they would've been bogged down trying to siege fort after fort and city after city, robing them of their biggest advantage (mobility) and we would've crushed them in their now static positions.
I'm a bit whiplashed by the sheer magnitude of the timeskips though, we just heard that gunpowder was invented in the east and then suddenly the not!mongoles have them along with not!Chinese engineers. They obviously didn't invet it, so they somehow managed to conquer the Not!song dynasty and then make and equip their armies with gunpowder in a year! Frankly, that's completely bullshit.
Vote was over before I could vote. A bit annoyed really.I hate that this only happened because our resident nutcases had votes that weighted heavily for them.
Yes they were, they did all that within Genghis Khan's life time.