Even assuming 15% casualties from the plague (Which I think we had less than that, since we quarantined quickly) and another 5% from nomads, that's still 'only' a million or so dead.
The plague kills a lot more than 15%.

Oh, sure, it may kill roughly that many people directly, but then you have starvation and banditry and whatnot step in, and kill a lot more.
 
The plague kills a lot more than 15%.

Oh, sure, it may kill roughly that many people directly, but then you have starvation and banditry and whatnot step in, and kill a lot more.
It kills 10-20% of those infected by word of AN, and we had no starvation because our granaries were full coming into this.

But that is mitigated by our high cent and study health crit in the beginning, which stopped the plague from actually infecting everyone. So let's say 80% of the population go the disease, and 20% of that 80% died. That's still only 16% death rate at the worst.

Add 5% pop death from nomads, and that brings us to ~20% of 6 million, or 1.2 million dead.
 
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But their horses couldn't carry a rider like ours, so the nomads wouldn't have used them.

But once they started using Ymaryn bred horses...
This. Only Ymaryn core and steppe elite had horses big enough to ride on at present. Even if they did get horses they don't get riders, but are likely used for beasts of burden/wagons.

Since it's a tuberclosis variant you literally have to be close enough to share the same air and inhale horse spit to get infected, which a beast of burden wouldn't(by contrast a tick based infection would have jumped before that).
Which means the reservoir and the reason the plague spread so fast was our horse couriers, which are maintained nationwide!
 
...oh ahahaha.
I think I just realized.
We found the bloody reservoir.

How?
-Nomads wreck Mountain Horse. Loots Cow. Loots Horse. Burns everything else. Nothing happens.
-Nomads wreck Thunder Speakers. Loots Cow. Loots Horse. Burns everything else. Nothing happens.
-Nomads hit Redhills(Ymaryn Core). Loots some cow. Loots some horse.
-Chief always gets first pick of loot.
-Chief's family specifically died of plague.
-Warchiefs do not normally engage in a lot of milking.
-Warchiefs DO engage in a lot of riding.

It's OUR goddamned horses isn't it? Because we should have the biggest horses of the region, so of course their Khan will liberate our horses and ride them.
This is the first time he actually encountered plague horse and he never had animal quarantines.
Fuck if all the horse lines are contaminated we better hope it doesn't pass from parent to child.
 
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE CAN KILL THAT MANY NOMADS
Superior technology, them being in chaos, and the plague affecting them quite severly. We should be able to eliminate quite a few.

1. Ok, and how many nomads do you think there are compared to Ymaryn? Like, 2 times as many, half as many, equal amounts, etc...?

2. I mean, you did read the last chapter, right? The nomads obliterated our armies until we hit them with the plague. Why do you think we'd be able to win against them on their home field?

1. I don't know. The last census was centuries ago, how many Ymaryn do you think exist?
2. They are on our home field now and they are sick and uncoordinated. They will not be able to bring their full strength down on us.

To put it bluntly? Yes.

You're pretty much advocating that we destroy a 'primitive' culture to remind our own people of why
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Racism: showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another.

I claimed their culture is primitive not their race. We have built cities and great works, they burn it down because their madman prophet said to do so. We accept people of all races and creed with open arms, they kill and enslave them. If that is not primitive barbarism at its finest then I don't know what is.



This is the part you're focusing on, not the many reason people give you as to why your plan will not work but people calling proposal genocide racist really.
I have already told people of the reasons why I think my plan should be carried out. The claim that my comments were racist confused me and I was simply asking the accuser to explain why they believed I was being racist.
 
Fuck if all the horse lines are contaminated we better hope it doesn't pass from parent to child.
Probably not all. Species jumping diseases are usually much weaker in original their host species. And also our horses are still kept in open pastures, so the disease will fade out eventually once we stop people from picking it up from one horse and applying it to another
 
1. I don't know. The last census was centuries ago, how many Ymaryn do you think exist?
Please stop dodging the question. Do you believe the Ymaryn outnumber, or at least come close to matching the numbers of the nomads? Even just a vague answer here of what you believe works.
2. They are on our home field now and they are sick and uncoordinated. They will not be able to bring their full strength down on us.
They don't need to. They can literally dance around our main forces all day with ease, as we saw in the last update, and only engage when they want to.
 
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This. Only Ymaryn core and steppe elite had horses big enough to ride on at present. Even if they did get horses they don't get riders, but are likely used for beasts of burden/wagons.

Since it's a tuberclosis variant you literally have to be close enough to share the same air and inhale horse spit to get infected, which a beast of burden wouldn't(by contrast a tick based infection would have jumped before that).
Which means the reservoir and the reason the plague spread so fast was our horse couriers, which are maintained nationwide!

I have a feeling we're going to be paying a lot of attention to animal sanitation.

Or if we're lucky, creating the impetus for a semaphore system.
 
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It's amazing how full our stats pool are and how hilariously high our effective martial is. But the -1 going to -2 stability is concerning, as is the effective 15 religious authority; which is about double our maximum?
Actually, now that i look at the effective martial, i'm really not sure where its coming from...i'd thought it was that we put 2 of the merc companies in regular budget, but that would give one of 6,7, or 11 martial. Meanwhile, depending on if permanent or temp econ is what determines the effective martial bonus, we'd have either 3 or 9 (or maybe 8 if it doesn't round). Meanwhile, we have 13 non primary martial, and unless i'm just being blind, i can't see a way to combine one each from the sets {6, 7, 11} and {3, 8, 9} to get 13...and looking back to last update, i can't make those numbers make sense either... @Academia Nut ?

(Also, while 15 RA is terrifying, its 1. not double our max, which is either 9 or 10, and 2. only temporary, from the patricians supporting them. With luck, that will stop with the main turn, and it'll go down to only 10...still, we should expect a mid turn choice dealing with them next turn...but hopefully our hero will leave us with a decent amount of stab and legit to use to deal with them trying to purge the heretics again.

I think I made a few mistakes, but there was some damage in places, so I'm just going to leave it as is.
Alas :/ Still, i suppose given a plague, a war, and governor's being shits, really can't argue the narrative behind losing out on stats like that :p Is it the same for the missing (+1+3), then, or was there some specific reason they disappeared?
 
They are.
-Lowlanders - Brown
-Khem - Black
-Trell - Bronze(think greek)
-Steppe - Pale to white
-Ymaryn - Put above in a jar and set to blend with extra dose of black due to Khem princeses(the nomads being taken in will probably turn us whiter).

I think of nomads as Eurasians.

They look Asian but also European.
 
(Also, while 15 RA is terrifying, its 1. not double our max, which is either 9 or 10, and 2. only temporary, from the patricians supporting them. With luck, that will stop with the main turn, and it'll go down to only 10...still, we should expect a mid turn choice dealing with them next turn...but hopefully our hero will leave us with a decent amount of stab and legit to use to deal with them trying to purge the heretics again.

As an Admin+Mystic Hero, Uvothyn is uniquely able to deal with such large RA overage.
 
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