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Depending on the environment, it is a practice that can be of use
If you vote for it, then yes, you quite apparently think it's the right choice of action to "remember the old lessons". Then you find that the moral trade-off. Frankly, motivation doesn't matter - the action is in itself evil, no matter the purpose for which it was done.Did I ever say I was good? That I was morally in the right? I campaign for this not out of hate or rage but to set an example. The old lessons have been forgotten, let us remind the world what it means to attempt to destroy Ymaryn.
1. Ok, and how many nomads do you think there are compared to Ymaryn? Like, 2 times as many, half as many, equal amounts, etc...?1. I meant wiping out two thirds of their population.
2. So we have to keep reminding them don't we?
Only a fraction of a fraction of the original horde have come to us begging for help. Others have fled north into the steppes, and the remainder have fled east into Persia. They will bring tales of the death and destruction that the magics of the Ymaryn have inflicted upon them. How no man, no matter how strong his arm, how sharp his sword, or how swift his horse, can ever truly be safe if he attacks us.How many nomads are there? I'd say two thirds but if they really hate us better to be safe and aim for three fourths.
Did I ever say I was good? That I was morally in the right? I campaign for this not out of hate or rage but to set an example. The old lessons have been forgotten, let us remind the world what it means to attempt to destroy Ymaryn.
When the nomads go west and the ones that return speak of death and destruction how many will seek to venture to these haunted lands? We must mark our territory and we must do it in the language these savage only know. Violence. Also that map dose not represent our current situation. I don't think we would have missed the nomads in the middle of fucking Anatolia.
Okay dude, I don't know who taught you about Racism but Brown skin isn't a Immune to Racism card, especially in a verse where the transatlantic Slave trade hasn't happened. (Was going to say Yet but don't want to Jinx it.)How am racist? Is our race not ambiguously brown? How does the total destruction of the nomads count as being racist?
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE CAN KILL THAT MANY NOMADSHow am racist? Is our race not ambiguously brown? How does the total destruction of the nomads count as being racist?
1. I meant wiping out two thirds of their population.
2. So we have to keep reminding them don't we?
AN clarified earlier that the -1 stab is including the joyous symphony trigger, because the People hate the Nomads that much right now.[X] Whoever surrenders may join the People (-1 Stability, -1 Legitimacy, -1 RA, 2 temp Econ damage, -2 EE, +2 Light Cavalry, Additional Disease Roll, ???)
We will accept everyone! This is our pride as a People!
EDIT: Wait, we peaced out a defensive war. Joyous Symphony trigger?
But it really doesn't look like that fits the stats we have, with us only 4 stats ahead in culture/mysticism/tech combined, with econ being hard to tell with the damage we take (and with our delayed stats disappeared for some reason), but seemingly not being much considering we had the expand econ action giving 6 in and of itself, and then a decent amount of martial, but absolutely no wealth?
So then were my comments racist?Okay dude, I don't know who taught you about Racism but Brown skin isn't a Immune to Racism card, especially in a verse where the transatlantic Slave trade hasn't happened. (Was going to say Yet but don't want to Jinx it.)
I'm not sure if the Ymaryn are racist or not, but their skin color is irrelevant in determining that.
Depending on the environment, it is a practice that can be of use
It does help with preventing the spread of disease, and with the increased availability of quality iron and specialists it is becoming an increasingly popular trend for people of all social classes.
General
Diplomacy 25/26 [+7-2]
-Intrigue 6 [+1]
Economy 26/26 (+0-0) [-8+6] {9}
-Sustainable Forests 27{30}/29 [+1]
-Econ Expansion 23 [+8-7 +4-1] [Overcrowding Min: -6]
Martial 8 (+1)/36 {21/38}
-Light Cavalry 1
Naval 1
Wealth 16/22 [-7]
+2.5 Salt
+3 = 3 Strategic
+3 = 3 Luxury
+2.5 Markets
-1 Units
-6 Maintenance
Total: +0
Cultural
Culture 26/26 [+6]
Mysticism 26/26 [+3]
Tech 26/26 (+1) [+1-1]
Prestige 94
Stability
Stability -1/4 (anxious)
Legitimacy 4/4 (over max)
Organizational
Centralization 7
Hierarchy 7
Religious Authority 8 {15}
Its going to take Very well constructed argument to convince me that Genocide isn't Racist. Especially as that category you are using, "Nomads", also includes the Nomads who have treated with the Ymaryn in good faith.
...oh ahahaha."To some extent, I want to take them in right away to find out how the plague so abruptly spread to them,"
tbf, the RA is in large part an emergency measure by the patricians, and the mystic king should actually be able to keep the priests mostly in check.It's amazing how full our stats pool are and how hilariously high our effective martial is. But the -1 going to -2 stability is concerning, as is the effective 15 religious authority; which is about double our maximum?
It's OUR goddamned horses isn't it? Because we should have the biggest horses of the region, so of course their Khan will liberate our horses and ride them.
This is the first time he actually encountered plague horse and he never had animal quarantines.
Luckily we are going into a main turn, so we should be able to restore our stability in short order. And by taking in the nomad warriors, that should prevent them from raidin our outer settlements for supplies.It's amazing how full our stats pool are and how hilariously high our effective martial is. But the -1 going to -2 stability is concerning, as is the effective 15 religious authority; which is about double our maximum?
...oh ahahaha.
I think I just realized.
We found the bloody reservoir.
How?
-Nomads wreck Mountain Horse. Loots Cow. Loots Horse. Burns everything else. Nothing happens.
-Nomads wreck Thunder Speakers. Loots Cow. Loots Horse. Burns everything else. Nothing happens.
-Nomads hit Redhills(Ymaryn Core). Loots some cow. Loots some horse.
-Chief always gets first pick of loot.
-Chief's family specifically died of plague.
-Warchiefs do not normally engage in a lot of milking.
-Warchiefs DO engage in a lot of riding.
It's OUR goddamned horses isn't it? Because we should have the biggest horses of the region, so of course their Khan will liberate our horses and ride them.
This is the first time he actually encountered plague horse and he never had animal quarantines.
HAD. You forget the last turn.Keeping in mind that we have a population of something like 6-8 million people in our nation, I believe.
Even assuming 15% casualties from the plague (Which I think we had less than that, since we quarantined quickly) and another 5% from nomads, that's still 'only' a million or so dead.
In particular that its horse tick based....oh ahahaha.
I think I just realized.
We found the bloody reservoir.
How?
-Nomads wreck Mountain Horse. Loots Cow. Loots Horse. Burns everything else. Nothing happens.
-Nomads wreck Thunder Speakers. Loots Cow. Loots Horse. Burns everything else. Nothing happens.
-Nomads hit Redhills(Ymaryn Core). Loots some cow. Loots some horse.
-Chief always gets first pick of loot.
-Chief's family specifically died of plague.
-Warchiefs do not normally engage in a lot of milking.
-Warchiefs DO engage in a lot of riding.
It's OUR goddamned horses isn't it? Because we should have the biggest horses of the region, so of course their Khan will liberate our horses and ride them.
This is the first time he actually encountered plague horse and he never had animal quarantines.
But the Mountain Horse were also suffering from the plague, so shouldn't their horses have carried the plague?...oh ahahaha.
I think I just realized.
We found the bloody reservoir.
How?
-Nomads wreck Mountain Horse. Loots Cow. Loots Horse. Burns everything else. Nothing happens.
-Nomads wreck Thunder Speakers. Loots Cow. Loots Horse. Burns everything else. Nothing happens.
-Nomads hit Redhills(Ymaryn Core). Loots some cow. Loots some horse.
-Chief always gets first pick of loot.
-Chief's family specifically died of plague.
-Warchiefs do not normally engage in a lot of milking.
-Warchiefs DO engage in a lot of riding.
It's OUR goddamned horses isn't it? Because we should have the biggest horses of the region, so of course their Khan will liberate our horses and ride them.
This is the first time he actually encountered plague horse and he never had animal quarantines.
This is the part you're focusing on, not the many reason people give you as to why your plan will not work but people calling proposal genocide racist really.
But their horses couldn't carry a rider like ours, so the nomads wouldn't have used them.But the Mountain Horse were also suffering from the plague, so shouldn't their horses have carried the plague?