Plus if we hand them Trelli by supporting them with the Banners they will like us a whole lot.

Being grateful is quite fleeting on international stage; however, there is no point in antagonising us, so being on good terms with us in in their self-interest anyway.
Plus it will be a show of our strength, which should help to make sure Freehills see no reason to oppose us.
 
Plus if we hand them Trelli by supporting them with the Banners they will like us a whole lot.
Aw shit that's a good point...

Guys. This is clearly telling us that the tax can cause Loyalty problems. Can we PLEASE choose Vassal support?
Yikes, ok.

[X] [HS] Increase Professionalism (Found Mercenary Company, Reforms advance)
[X] [Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)
[X] [SR] Food (Colonies and vassals transfer 1 Econ/turn each)

[X] [Attack] Hire out mercenary company
-[X] [Attack] Both
--[X] [Attack] To Freehills
 
[X] [Policy] City Support

Fucking greed again! Really it seems like our own people are our own worst enemy. (We must purge them all! Only when the loyal are left shall we know peace.)
 
[X] [SR] Food (Colonies and vassals transfer 1 Econ/turn each)
[X] [HS] Prototype Weapon Storage (Palace Arsenal + Storehouse Annexes, Reforms advance)
[X] [HS] Increase Professionalism (Found Mercenary Company, Reforms advance)
[X] [Attack] Attempt to take the Trelli Strait
[X][Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)
 
[X] [HS] Increase Professionalism (Found Mercenary Company, Reforms advance)
[X] [Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)
[X] [SR] Food (Colonies and vassals transfer 1 Econ/turn each)

[X] [Attack] Hire out mercenary company
-[X] [Attack] Both
--[X] [Attack] To Freehills
 
[X] [SR] Food (Colonies and vassals transfer 1 Econ/turn each)
[X] [HS] Prototype Weapon Storage (Palace Arsenal + Storehouse Annexes, Reforms advance)
[X] [HS] Increase Professionalism (Found Mercenary Company, Reforms advance)
[X] [Attack] Attempt to take the Trelli Strait
[X][Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)
 
[X] [SR] Food (Colonies and vassalstransfer 1 Econ/turn each)
[X] [HS] Increase Professionalism (Found Mercenary Company, Reforms advance)
[X] [Attack] Attempt to take the Trelli Strait
[X][Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)
 
[X] [SR] Food (Colonies and vassals transfer 1 Econ/turn each)
[X] [HS] Increase Professionalism (Found Mercenary Company, Reforms advance)
[X] [Attack] Hire out mercenary company
-[X] [Attack] Both
--[X] [Attack] To Freehills

No real opinion on the policy.

Also, just a reminder that AN said the RedShore Ironworks isn't the required level 2...it's just another level 1 (so it won't net us another mega project).
 
[X] [SR] Food (Colonies and vassals transfer 1 Econ/turn each)
[X] [HS] Increase Professionalism (Found Mercenary Company, Reforms advance)
[X] [Attack] Hire out mercenary company
-[X] [Attack] Both
--[X] [Attack] To Freehills

No real opinion on the policy.

Also, just a reminder that AN said the RedShore Ironworks isn't the required level 2...it's just another level 1 (so it won't net us another mega project).

Level 2 Ironwork requires Block Housing anyway, which Redshore provides. Which means we will build Level 2 Ironwork at Redshore anyway?
 
Level 2 Ironwork requires Block Housing anyway, which Redshore provides. Which means we will build Level 2 Ironwork at Redshore anyway?
Huh. Yeaah, Block Housing requires a big True City, so we cannot build IW2 without IW1: Redshore.
And if we rent troops to Freehills and not do Trelli War ourselves, we can afford to start reform with Ironworks and not another merc company. Okay, a good point.

@Academia Nut , what do advisors say about feasibility of transporting food tax from distant vassals? Seems like it'd be physically impossible or at least ridiculously inefficient to drag food from Thunder Horse, for example.
 
It's interesting. The only way you can get Ironwork lvl2 is to find enough labor to work in the Iron industry, which means that Redshore is about to turn into a fire and smoke belching city, which means we're going to need to be worried about the air quality and the fire hazard that the Ironwork represents.
 
Level 2 Ironwork requires Block Housing anyway, which Redshore provides. Which means we will build Level 2 Ironwork at Redshore anyway?
Level 1, you don't have the pre-reqs for any level 2 stuff yet.
Note that Block Housing is currently only available while Panem is an active status.
IIRC he hasn't said anything about RedShore providing block housing, only that it's available. I'm assuming he means that we can build block housing as long as we have Panem as a status?

@Academia Nut Can you confirm?
 
[X] [SR] Rotate governors (All periphery states with at least one province cost -1 Diplo/turn each turn, have Min. 2 Loyalty)

[X] [Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)

[X] [HS] Increase Professionalism (Found Mercenary Company, Reforms advance)



Fucking Heretics!
 
I... think so? Is that good or bad?
Both
It's good in a mechanical way that we now have an econ engine to pay for panem
It's however bad in a narrativ way cause from the point of our subordinates we take the food from their honest workers to fund our free food policy for the city people
which obviously can turn into another conflict hazard especially if our colonies will ever have a harvest failure,
It is also not-good in the sense that we previously established in the narrativ that food taxes don't really work, which means taking the food option will come back to bite us in our behind at some point in our future
 
[X] [Attack] Attempt to take the Trelli Strait


Letting Free Hills have doesn't work. You know why? It gives yet another Civ the power to choke us out.

It's a massive strategical weakness.
Do people realize that we have to HOLD the Trelli Straits to get anything out of it? Conquering is one thing, actually holding the place and maintaining it is another entirely.

It's very likely that it's going to turn into another quagmire, seeing as other powers want the straits and there is still that Pirate Hero around!
> Literally one of the most defensible positions in the entire fucking world.
 
[X] [Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)
[X] [SR] Food (Colonies and vassals transfer 1 Econ/turn each)
[X] [Attack] Support Western Ymaryn Against Storm Tribes
 
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[X] [SR] Food (Colonies and vassals transfer 1 Econ/turn each)

We've been in a food crisis in a long time, and this might help somewhat. Of course, this'll piss them off, and doesn't establish the Loyalty floor (rebellion-proofing? Rebellion-proofing!) that Rotate Governors does... but we can't afford Rotate Governors, so it doesn't matter. Right?

[X] [HS] Increase Professionalism (Found Mercenary Company, Reforms advance)

Chance to fix Second Sons?

[][Attack] Hire out mercenary company
-[][Attack] Both
--[][Attack] To Freehills

We could go with the long-term diplo-annex strategy. Very long-term. Because really we only want to be annexing people when things are less on fire, and clearly when you're the King of the Hill, you enter a fire singularity, where the situation only moves in one direction.

...No, I think I just convinced myself.

[X] [Attack] Attempt to take the Trelli Strait

What could possibly go wrong?
The answer is everything.

[X] [Policy] Special: Vassal Support (+1 Subordinate while active, increases Loyalty while active at less than full subordinates)

We're going to be taxing our subordinates now, so they're likely to be pissed off by it, especially if we don't start rotating governors. Vassal Support is likely to counteract that somewhat, OR actually allow us to both spawn a new merc company and have Trelli as a vassal.
 
We could go with the long-term diplo-annex strategy. Very long-term. Because really we only want to be annexing people when things are less on fire, and clearly when you're the King of the Hill, you enter a fire singularity, where the situation only moves in one direction.

Eh. We kinda have shiny stuff to integrate before we expand more anyway, specifically Lowlands, but okay.
 
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