That seemed certainly no worse than the message he's responding to to me. Perhaps I'm biased but that kind of spiteful and provocative "I'm out of here, and you're all fucked!" leaving message seems a good bit beyond his honestly.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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That seemed certainly no worse than the message he's responding to to me. Perhaps I'm biased but that kind of spiteful and provocative "I'm out of here, and you're all fucked!" leaving message seems a good bit beyond his honestly.
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Well, ThrawnCA's post was also rude and somewhat graceless, but at least it wasn't a personal attack, and wasn't as directly insulting.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
"full" "pacifism"
The nomads and the burnt buried ruins of Xohyr beg to differ.
Anyway, if we have the problem of divergent subordinates, the Khemetri Empire is likely constantly on fire, and spending just as much time putting out housefires as it does doing vaguely empirish things, even if their RA is likely higher as a mechanic to force people into line. I don't think the Khemetri have the staying power for this war any more than we do; if this war starts dipping into colonial resources more than casually the whole house of cards is going to come down on their end.
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- Philippines
That is where religion comes in they are united in their belief that the king is all powerful and by doing his will they can earn salvation if we break that image we break the Khemetri.
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- Canada
I'm just doing everything I can to sneak more trails and temples into our actions whichever way I can. However the trails weren't for the Hatriver but on the off chance our mystic hero helps us skip to roads rather then having to max out our trails to 14. Plus they increase economic interdependence between us and our periphery states which is always a good thing and may help us send troops down south faster.Reminder that AN had said before that the Hathatyn and Highlanders had better road networks than we do. Though that's not a difficult feat.
Hatriver should already have trails.
Now, Trails are still valuable, and we should make more of them, but they won't be particularly instrumental to the war effort there.
If you're going for Science Hero's Solution to War you might be better off with
-Main Study Metal
-Secondary Arsenal
-Secondary Arsenal x2/War Mission/Watchtowers/Blackbirds
Huh, shouldn't this be a Colony now, as was voted on?
Or does it turn into one sometime later?
- Location
- Hell
...that was his point. He said that trying to go for it is...optimistic.
PyroTechno
The Procrastination Pokemon
Yeah, but that kind of runs the risk of a single bad King being the death knell of our civilization.
TheDanishLord
Viking Warlord
- Location
- Denmark
Honourable Death (Spiritual/Honour)
Death in service to the People and the spirits is the best death of all, removing the fear of death from the truly honourable.
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Death in service to the People and the spirits is the best death of all, removing the fear of death from the truly honourable.
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- Canada
Yeah I was thinking if we had that then we could've taken the max option on every refugee intake vote this giving us near infinite econ. However I do quite enjoy our oligarchic system even if it does get a bit too rowdy with the constant knives in the dark.
TheDanishLord
Viking Warlord
- Location
- Denmark
I mean, apart from the low opinion you appear to have of the Ymaryn and how easy it will be to turn them highly militarised, I fail to see how a war where thousands die on both sides could have been avoided. If not now, then it would have happened in the future because the Khemetri would have pushed again. Or one of our neighbours would have tried kicking our heads in. Or nomads would have happened.
But, you know, if you don't feel able to follow the quest anymore, that's fine. Thanks for telling us, I guess. If you do decide to come back, we'll be happy to welcome you back. After all, the fire is warm, there is always space at the fireside, and I cannot see that changing anytime soon.
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- Meycauayan, Bulacan, Philippines
Ha.
Hahaha.
Looks like I can't into quest.
Where are you guys getting all these information off out of numbers and descriptions and making a story?
I don't understand the math. The style of the storymaking is counterintuitive to me.
In short HOW? And where can I get some?
Hahaha.
Looks like I can't into quest.
Where are you guys getting all these information off out of numbers and descriptions and making a story?
I don't understand the math. The style of the storymaking is counterintuitive to me.
In short HOW? And where can I get some?
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- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
Our current stats are always on the second post of the first page; AN always edits that post after every update.
The costs of standard actions is indicated in every main turn update (like this one) in the "Important Projects" spoilerbox.
On the contrary, I expect it to actually end relatively quickly. Not due to military defeat, but because given their position and described social model, NOT making swift progress is itself unacceptable and very costly.
Thanks to AN explaining the mechanics of giving way(Loser gives the new King enough Prestige to beat their Prestige by 10 points), conceding the Hill costing us 13 Prestige reveals their prestige level to be...54 I think, which would make a 13 point Prestige transfer top us by 10 points.
So, despite their actual military power, if they lose 5 Prestige over the war, they drop a slot, then start bleeding colonies.
The crossbow was not going to be relevant for this fight regardless of production increases.
It's a long term investment, not a short term one, as the crossbow transition happened only with the move to mobilizing large segments of the urban poor as cheap missile troops, but we have that 90% agricultural power Yeomen making them a blip.
In the short term, crossbows are most valuable for our Blackbirds, where their greater penetration and range are effective for killing armored elites.
Can't trigger it reliably, but a fair point.
So like this?
-Main War Mission
-Secondary Arsenal
-Secondary More Blackbirds
For ninjas with the Iron Age Antimaterial Sniper Rifle
OR
-Main War Mission
-Secondary Study Metal
-Secondary Arsenal
For Steel elite infantry.
OR
-Main War Mission
-Secondary Arsenal
-Secondary Arsenal x2
For Trust the Dice
We're getting near infinite econ anyways right now
But the thing with impossibly profitable effects is they usually have a collapse point, under that particular model, probably forced culture change as vast numbers of refugees beyond our ability to assimilate force traits to be replaced with foreign traits.
So. How likely is it that the Khemetris collapse could trigger a general collapse in the Med?
I doubt there will be a Bronze Age collapse, but odds are that the Trelli will act like scavengers and use their new wealth and veteran mercenary armies to move in on former Khemetri colonies and vassals.
Of course if we lose, the same may happen to us.
Then again, we have the advantage that Trelli is always in easy striking distance to us. Downside is, Valleyhome isn't far off either.
I doubt there will be a Bronze Age collapse, but odds are that the Trelli will act like scavengers and use their new wealth and veteran mercenary armies to move in on former Khemetri colonies and vassals.
Of course if we lose, the same may happen to us.
Then again, we have the advantage that Trelli is always in easy striking distance to us. Downside is, Valleyhome isn't far off either.
Da Boyz
The Cutest Apocalypse.
Wait...does this mean there's an actual reason to send them a Salt Gift to Tea-Bag them?
I thought the Passive Policy was trying to build an Arsenal.
Why should we do it when Shaman Kings skills are better used with Study and Blackbirds.
I would really like it if we used one action for building walls/watchtowers in our contested territories as well.
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- Austria
@veekie , seeing as we have Enough Economy now and Gulvalley is close enough to the frontline to really need it, how about Main War + Support Subordinate (Gulvalley) + Study Metal (or Arsenal, or double down on support)?
I mean, even if Khemetri somehow do not do direct Econ damage at war (they probably did), propagated colony is relatively fresh and pribably light on resources to throw into anything.
I mean, even if Khemetri somehow do not do direct Econ damage at war (they probably did), propagated colony is relatively fresh and pribably light on resources to throw into anything.
It might trigger a general collapse, but I doubt it unless their core is also overstretched(and as fellow megaproject spammers, they can fix it as well as us, considering they do temple spam)
AN dropped a hint that we REALLY want one. Maybe more than one.
Arsenals are R&D centers for equipment, basically you take out the best artisans from all the guilds and put them into Royal workshops to make elite gear for your royal elites.
Which, with a Heroic Mystic King, is a prototyping lab to try out ideas and mix ideas where the guilds would prefer them to stay separate.
Very ill timed.
Support Subordinate I don't believe to be useful. You're missing something.
Gulvalley only has 1-2 settlements right now, but they have the full econ and martial of Hatvalley Colony, which had the full Martial of Hatriver March.
They don't need Support. They're defending one town with a large province's military