- Location
- Staring into the void
Looking at action options, I want to try a study tailings, with an expand black soil. See if we can get concrete.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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- Original
Yep. If nothing demands our actions next turn I also strongly favor doing it all at one go.
Sooner we clear the event the less likely something fucks up after all, and we have confirmation that when there is a Challenge or Crisis, the provinces will do their best to support it.
We should already have it, they're unlikely to spend mysticism I believe.
And if we do, the two Marches can counter it as well. Probably not a problem.
Unlikely. We wiped those out within a thousand miles. Those are not going to show up for 2-3 generations at least.
Seems more like a Border Troubles event. It's possible that Southshore will launch a Trade Mission or a Salt Gift(considering our vast excess of DIplomacy) to head off any troubles.
The bane of the hereditary model. Uninterrupted succession is far rarer than electoral systems.
Uh...does not compute. Tailings may have part of the makings of concrete, but we still don't have limestone, and black soil has nothing to do with it at all.
ConfusedPotato
Unverified Verifier
- Location
- Australia
[X] [Main] Build Iron Mine
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X] [Secondary] Grand Sacrifice
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X] [Secondary] Grand Sacrifice
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I dunno, man, I think watchtowers might still pull it out!Inserted tally
We came so close to unanimity...
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
We get nice things off of unanimity. Our last veekietrain drove off the nomads, got a legacy, an honour slot, and an honour policy.
And you want to give it all up? For trees?
Romv
A Memory of TREES
YesWe get nice things off of unanimity. Our last veekietrain drove off the nomads, got a legacy, an honour slot, and an honour policy.
And you want to give it all up? For trees?
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
This man knows what's up.
[X] [Main] Expand Forests
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests x2
The forests flourish.
- Location
- Australia
They weren't nomads. They were a large Trade Mission from a far away civ.
- Location
- Hell
I would rather Grand Sacrifice rather than try to do it all at once.
Thay way we stay in positive stability the whole time and don't allow instability to color the results.
The one we are having on whether it was a pyrrhic victory or not, and the one I am having with Necratoid on the consequences of not taking the March.
I never said that not having the Stallions would make it better. Those numbers were the cost of this little disagreement with the Nomads and why I don't consider it negligible cost that you claimed earlier
We broke the nearby nomads. It will take them several generations to recuperate. That doesn't stop more nomads from coming in from other places to claim the area.
Thay way we stay in positive stability the whole time and don't allow instability to color the results.
The problem is you're mixing two different arguments
The one we are having on whether it was a pyrrhic victory or not, and the one I am having with Necratoid on the consequences of not taking the March.
I never said that not having the Stallions would make it better. Those numbers were the cost of this little disagreement with the Nomads and why I don't consider it negligible cost that you claimed earlier
We broke the nearby nomads. It will take them several generations to recuperate. That doesn't stop more nomads from coming in from other places to claim the area.
Or a trader caravan nomad with trader ties to a far away civ.
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- Hell
Actually, thinking about it further, AN has told us that the Nomads have two settings, the first the raid ALL the things we've seen recently.
The second we've only seen hinted at once with our interactions with the first Thunder Stallions.
The Silk Road Nomads. The Trade ALL the things nomads
Source:
The second we've only seen hinted at once with our interactions with the first Thunder Stallions.
The Silk Road Nomads. The Trade ALL the things nomads
Source:
So that's who we need to look for and support.
- Location
- Source of confusion itself.
[X] [Main] Build Iron Mine
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X] [Secondary] Grand Sacrifice
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X] [Secondary] Grand Sacrifice
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
If we Study Tailings + Study Metal next turn we also get synergy AND finish the challenge a turn early.
- Location
- Hell
@Academia Nut was this a northern civ's Trade Mission - Into the Wild or was it a nomad band with ties to said civ?*hopeful*
Did we tell them we were the cause of the recent dearth of Nomads?
We don't need to do it twice though?
Did we tell them we were the cause of the recent dearth of Nomads?
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We don't need to do it twice though?
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
Trees? Pathetic! You need to think BIG!
[JK] [Main] The Mountain
[JK] [Main] The Mountain x2
[JK] [Kick] The Mountain
- Location
- Hell
At the cost of going into negative stability while trying to remove the belief? Anxiety will not help our cause.If we Study Tailings + Study Metal next turn we also get synergy AND finish the challenge a turn early.
Best to get it done a turn early to free up action economy.
There is a third secret hidden state we just unlocked: Dead Nomads
Provinces can take Grand Sacrifices too.
And if they don't, things are lined up perfectly for a Restore Order on the third turn.
Stability -1 is minor as long as you don't intend to STAY there.
- Location
- Hell
Not really?
It cost the same amount whether we do it in three turns or two.
Still, the narrative it paints, when we go into instability while we are trying to discourage superstition...
It would be awesome if they raised Stability as well, but I rather not depend on that.
Especially since us doing a double study action means we go to Stability -2, not -1. So not minor at all.
Actually if we, again, land at -1 stability repeating the Grand Sacrifice and Restoration of Order turn would make sense, especially if we want to hit a golden age soonish.