Paths of Civilization

[Generic_Generica]

yeah no @highs2lows you can take 25 points and a week long threadban for incivility.

Everyone else? Threadbanner. Read it. Apply it to your posting.

That's all for now folks.

 

[Chehrazad]

Complainers gonna complain.

Also, @McLuvin is looking pretty admirable to me right now. Justifiable Smugness is a right. The world would be a lesser place without it. Also, people need to accept when they've messed up instead of blaming others or whining about how unfair things are.

These are harsh-sounding, likely unpopular truths but I support these statements fully.

@McLuvin, what will your next words of wisdom be?

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mine will be stop You can be justifiably smug --I regularly am-- but that doesn't mean you have to include it as an element in your posting. You should neither accuse everyone else of being "complainers" or "whining". I'm going to give you a warning for marginal behaviour and then I'm going to ask you to not repeat this behaviour again.

Have a good day.

 

[Chehrazad]

you go away to sleep for one night... Thread locked for review.

 

[Chehrazad]

judgement passed This was the most asininely opaque argument I've ever had to moderate; having to read through thirty pages of non-stop arguing about boats in forum-form is boring in a way that is hard to comprehend. First of all, I would like to give condolences to @Academia Nut, because this was horrible.

Now to get to the meat of this; I find @ctulhuslp guilty of breaching Rule 3, with his constant condescension and strawmanning towards those he disagrees with. Asking for sources is a good thing to do, and arguing should generally be followed with a source, but this does not justify insults and condescension towards your opponents; I will infract you for 25 points for a breach of Rule 3 and a two-day threadban to calm down.

Secondly, @Lailoken's post is unacceptable; while nothing happened this time, asking someone to "cry you a river" should not and does not fly. You will receive a warning for marginal behaviour for this post as well as a polite request to not do so again.

Thirdly, @NotteBoy97's post is rather tasteless, please keep discussions about minotaur-and-cow-fucking out of this thread. No warning for marginal behaviour will be given.

Finally, I will request that you make a single report the next time a similar issue appears instead of clogging the report queue with eight different reports of the same person. Please collate the suspected breaches of whatever rule you are reporting for and explain your reasoning in a single report.

 

[Chehrazad]

official staff communication The thread is open again.

 

[Chehrazad]

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moderator action indicates stability loss Academia Nut already warned against this exact sort of behaviour @Umi-san:

Let's maybe not veer into topics that might cause the standard liquid salt reactor that this thread can be sometimes to somehow turn into a pressurized light water reactor that is leaking coolant.

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This has already passed and nothing came of it, but I'm still going to just mention it and request people don't engage in this sort of behaviour again.

 

[Chehrazad]

academia nut we have to stop meeting like this. Thread locked for review.

 

[Chehrazad]

can you at least give me a place in the mythology man? @McLuvin you have been found guilty of multiple breaches of Rule 3; I am infracting you for 25 points and a 7-day threadban, I also implore you to remember not to use the moderation team as a threat in your arguments, we hit you all with newspapers equally.

I am apologizing to @Academia Nut, because I will be adding a new thread policy; I have noticed a trend in using the moderation team as a scare argument. I am frankly tired of seeing this line of argument be used to quiet dissent, whether legitimate or not; if you have an issue with someone, report them. If you argue with someone, argue using your own points, sourced facts and debating in good faith.

Any invocation of the moderation team applies to all sides of an argument, it cannot and will not be used to silence dissent, because any attempt to do so applies equally to both parts. I humbly request that you report such frivolous arguments, they will henceforth be considered disruptions to the thread and be responded to with threadbans, starting at one day and escalating from there at repeated behaviour. This may result in infractions.

Have a good day.

 

[Chehrazad]

i want you all to clap and congratulate @Powerofmind for getting a post in after I locked the thread; that's impressive man. Also thread has been reopened, have fun, debate in good faith, don't talk to strangers.

 

[Chehrazad]

Who's to say she won't be working with the Balanced Provinces to do study actions? Who's to say we'll only manage a single study action next turn.

As for the pathetic moralizing... do you even fucking hear yourself? Do you truly think that there's never been a conquest that's been held? Or that the conquered will even care all that much? We're long before national, or even ethnic identities have settled, and city states give far less of a shit about who rules them than a kingdom.

You can spout inanities about all conquest being intrinsically self-defeating, about how it's absolutely never productive and we're magically better people for it... but it's just that- inanity. Why have we been able to function in peace so well and so long? Because the Northern Marches protected us. How did we get the Northern March(es)? Why... by conquering. Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum motherfucker. Those who wish for peace must prepare for war, and part of that preparation is by ensuring when war does come about, it's as decisive and quick as possible. People have claimed that by doing more than the bare minimum we're making the conflict magically worse- but wouldn't it be worse if it went longer and got bogged down? The worst wars in human history weren't the decisive ones, they weren't the ones where one side went in overwhelming force and the other crumpled... it was where the war bogged down, where blood spilled and spilled and nothing was gained.

The turks were from fucking central asia, where are they now? Magyars migrated into the Danubian basin, conquering it from the natives- where are they now? The fucking Celts migrated and conquered their way across the entirety of Europe. Where are your examples? You treat this issue as so fucking simple, as so damn obvious and you never ever bring up citations, you never point to the fantastically powerful pacifistic civilization that by all rights has to exist in order to justify your interpretation. Because at the end of the day, no matter how kind, or open minded, or progress, or just a civ is doesn't matter if that civ get's wiped out. I'm not demanding we renounce our values, I'm demanding we not behave like lemmings and ensure at the very minimum we have our civ's best interests at heart- and that sometimes requires things different than peace, isolation, and teching up.

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magnus-domon speaketh
I am sure you can tell them that they're is wrong with less profanities, insults and aggressive tone; it's not nearly enough to merit an infraction, but certainly enough for a warning for marginal behavior, please don't repeat this kind of behaviour.

Have a good day.[