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They're bones and he has them, so they're his bones. About past ownership... well, he may disagree
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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Use Dragon Blood as the ink, just to see what happens.
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I don't think we'd need ink for our bones-carved-into-3D-bioseals, but layering 2D seals on top of them is intriguing! Using Dragon Blood as ink is inspired, but I'm not sure about the durability of our bones. I don't think Hazou has ever left a "thank mr skeltal" comment on an internet webzone. We need to first crack artificial chakra metal (or just kill a chakra golem. how resistant to cold can they be anyway?), add a reinforcement layer on top of our bones, and then I believe we can begin safely experimenting with inscribing it with Dragon Blood.
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We know that Sasuke, holder of the Sharingan, is made to recognize in Hazou the ability to have sharingan offspring everytime he looks at him. I wonder if that unconsciously instills a sense of brotherhood in Sasuke? Every time he looks at us, his bloodline whispers "family/cousin."
That unconscious brotherhood could make Sasuke feel more positive to Hazou, even as it makes Itachi feel more violent/aggressive (since Sasuke misses his family, but Itachi tried to kill them all).
That unconscious brotherhood could make Sasuke feel more positive to Hazou, even as it makes Itachi feel more violent/aggressive (since Sasuke misses his family, but Itachi tried to kill them all).
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I don't know that Sasuke misses his family - or, at least, that his first feeling about them is missing them in terms of a sense of loss.
I think that he probably feels a responsibility to bring his family back - specifically, he wants to shepherd and guide them. He said that he'd teach us about clan management etc., and I feel like he's been inclined to sort of guide us.
I think an issue there is that he might not have much useful to say on the topics of politics and clan management, because his teachers would have all been civilians thrust into the position suddenly. But we can try to reach out to him and see if we can bring him onside...while, y'know, handling the fact that we think his brother is a flawed human being instead of a monster.
That one could be tricky.
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Hmm, what would happen if EM Mastery was used underground - in a basement, for example?
Also, I think we should refer to it as a different technique to reduce the risk of OPSEC violations, even within the Hive. I propose Naraka's Breath Technique.
If we want to go on adventure, we need to be able to handle our adversaries. We were nearly wrecked by Neck ninja.
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I don't want to go on adventures. I want to stay in Leaf between visits to the Rift and make friends so when we upset geopolitics we have a few allies.
I want to keep inventing seals but I'm interested in things like what a 3D explosive would look like. Maybe the effect just...never stops. If we can toggle them on and off, at that point we just need to make them directional and we can really upgrade macerators.
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Incidentally, with Winterfest currently happening, the Users Choice awards are in play. Should anyone want to drop a vote for us in User Choice Awards Nominations: Best Ongoing Quest, it would be delightful. Here's a copy/paste vote for you:
[X] Marked for Death
[X] Marked for Death
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Alternatively: the uncanny valley. The dissonance of looking at Hazou and feeling some indistinct sense of family despite knowing that he's not. Humanity is very good at noticing that which seems human but is not, like corpses
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"Lord Hokage? I forgot to ask first before I tested a weapon, but the good news is you have a new nuke! the bad news is southern Fire is off-limits for about 2 months"
Hence Necromancy. Once we have our guaranteed ticket back, don't care about being wrecked. We can get them by attrition.
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Guaranteed and easy resurrection reduces the narrative weight of death, which makes it a meaningless concept. Medicine becomes unimportant, or at least not as necessary.
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This might be impossible. We're fairly confident we can reopen one rift to somewhere on the presumably Naraka Path in a very complicated way. We aren't sure we can find other dead, we aren't sure we can find our way back to it, we aren't sure the lost memories will come back if the spirit comes back, we aren't sure the spirit doesn't dissipate over the course of a few days when on the Human Path or something more dire (did we ever get any intel about Daizen? Maybe he's the cause of Dragonwar actually... or maybe he turned into a gaki on his own - the point is not so much "what's possible" and more "lots is possible and we don't know")
Once you get eternal life for a chosen few (unless we have End All Death as a project, which I would personally agree with), medicine becomes exponentially important. No death without sufficiently advanced medicine inevitably leads to I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. Look at our pal the Bear Summoner. Time is an arrant thief, and its weak strength it snatches from our minds. He's a best case scenario in that he's still fully functional most days, and he doesn't seem to be suffering from a constant source of pain, physical or psychological. It takes one terrible accident, which over the course of eternity is guaranteed to happen, for immortality to be an ever-worsening curse and permanent death to be the only option to end it, which is the kind of scenario we definitely should be opposed to. "The power to fix such issues" is necessary, and for like 90% of them what that means is "develop medicine to a ridiculously high level". I mean the kind of medicine research that would make Tsunade not rusty any more for a long, long time.
It's weird to separate diseases from mortality or immortality. That's generally not how human biology works.
Bear summoner's going to die because whatever cause his mind to decay is also slowly destroying his body. Perfect medicine is effectively immortality. Unless you get blown to bit by an ion cannon or something.
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Human biology doesn't work in a binary "kills you/doesn't kill you". There's a huge spectrum of "hurts you", "harms you", "disables you", "causes you sorrow". Even in the psychological realm - can immortality solve Akane's depression? Thousands of people in the EN probably have dementia symptoms. Some form of trauma response is probably the baseline for most ninja - BPD, NPD, PTSD/C-PTSD, none of which can be alleviated with today's medicine or a respawn.
We probably can't restore lost limbs, either. Would Atomu, I think his name was, be found in the Naraka Path as he died, or with a new set of fingers? We can't alleviate ghost pain. Think of the complex illnesses, multiple sclerosis, ALS, and the like. Genetic-based health issues which will pop right back up. Cancer, which after a few decades becomes an almost-certainty. We will need to develop ways to prevent, cure, or outright solve those.
Bear summoner's maybe going to die, but his "wandering wits" may still be there if he respawns at that point. His brain's in that state.
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The summoner's brain state is inseparable from the biology of the brain. Dementia, or the underlying process, is almost certainly going to kill him one way or another, because it's a physical process as much it's a mental one.
Now, it's certainly true that diseases often have a spectrum, but all these diseases nonetheless contributes to the likelihood of death by reducing the functionality of the body or mind to maintain itself.
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That's dodging the point though. The point is that "undoing the death" does not mean "undoing the harm". Immortality with eternal suffering is something we should specifically avoid, and if all we have is "undo death" then immortality with eternal suffering is all we can achieve.
My point being that advanced medicine is associated with immortality by necessity of good health.
If resurrection restores a person to apparent good health, then by itself is a form of medicine. The less risky it is to die, the better appeal as a form of medicine. If it's risky to die, because you get lost or it's hard to find someone, then it's not really good medicine.
Anyway, biological immortality is a bit different from resurrection. It is a state by which the human body can indefinitely restore itself and maintain functionality despite assualt from biological diseases and the ravage of aging. That is why if you have dementia, you are likely going to die. Presumably, if you resurrect someone with dementia, then that person is going to die sooner.
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This is the biggest "if" that ever if-ed.
The kind of people who plays this quest ain't going to like this kind of defeatism.
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In doubt there's always the Sun!
This "kinda of defeatism" wouldn't have reales an nuke to that world, since it is called "think on the obvious consequences of your action, and how bad playing god can be". Im not against extending hazō's and his loved ones lives but i rather have any serious life extension to imortality when we manage to turn the EN in star trek.
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[X] Nuke Death. No, Not A Death Nuke. Let's Nuke Death Itself.
- Buy a YOUTHSUIT
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
The collor was off, now is properly green.