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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
That was my first thought, but your post doesn't have an edit date.
So: that just raises FURTHER questions!
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If you edit your post within a minute of posting it then the message doesn't show up. Handy, because I often notice a mistake just after I feel satisfied that I haven't made any and have clicked send.
edit: see?
Okay, I'm getting out of here before any more mysteries raise their heads.
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So this suggests that we aren't getting access to any jutsu/seals that get submitted until the end of the contest, we're just learning that certain things are getting submitted right now. Am I reading this correctly?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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Hm...
"A truly stupendous quantity of seals has been submitted."
Everyone: *sideyes the Goketsu*
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- They/Them
Not going to lie, still not a fan of Haru... but I can, objectively, see the appeal. Might want to keep an eye on him, though, since we're giving Mari a break from breaking people.
She seems kinda like a discount Mari, if I remember correctly. Went through a vague (it's hinted that it's sexual in nature) trauma and now she hides her true self from being hurt behind a mask. And Hazou strongly reminds her of her former abuser. I'd say that we give her the space she desperately needs. No need to force her to interact with someone that reminds her of her trauma, I think.
Anyway, I like your plan. I vote for:
[X] Action Plan: Sealing Contracts
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Yes, we (the hivemind) know that. Hazou doesn't, and we (the hivemind) want to change that.
I mean, I want Hazou to realize what's going on.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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So... I think we should suggest to Asuma that additional incentive be provided to clans to share their especially-effective training techniques, preferably after we submit our own. Not only are these techniques the kind of thing that can catapult an otherwise-average chuunin to special jounin level by allowing them to specialize more heavily -- with enough of them anyway, imagine one for CR, Resolve, Alertness, etc. -- but it scales across ninja in a way that pretty much no other technique would. Seals do, too, but that's because seals are the best. 
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Tch. Damn, there goes that plan. In that case, my plan needs to be rewritten (well, moreso than just now having information on the head of the Daisho). @eaglejarl, I'm sorry for not being able to give you this one.
Kay, let's construct a profile for this baby boomer (trace his birthdate to twenty years after the formation of the village, when Konoha had enjoyed a period of peace and I think "baby boomer" is entirely accurate
).Understand that this is a little bit of reading tea leaves, but has some degree of correlation, and because I am sadly not Evenstar who could construct an image using her models, I'll have to settle for using mine.
The thing that jumps out to me is the emphasis on fights: the Daisho Head likes watching bloodsports. Dog fighting and civilian cage matches are probably morally equivocal in his eyes, and he likes them both. To me, this suggests that on the achievement-relational axis of cultural values, that he lies more on the achievement end, because of the aggression and competitiveness involved in bloodsports. (though I will note that evidence for the achievement-relational axis is thin on the ground).
That predicts that the Daisho Head (because we still don't have a name, dammit) would value gender role conformity (note: this was the thing that was questionable IIRC), assertiveness, aggression, amibition, and competitiveness. The prediction is that the head of the Daisho would value those qualities slightly more than relationships and quality of life, but that's probably not entirely true.
The next things that jump out at me are the two reasons he gives for liking civilian cage matches: They reinforce the power difference between him and civilians, and remind him of his obligation to defend. That suggests to me that he lies on the high power difference end of the power difference continuum, and the collectivist end of the individualist-collectivist spectrum.
The key predictions for high power distance are that he'd value accepting social positions as a fact of life, accept coercion as normal, and would probably feel uncomfortable challenging authority. The key predictions for collectivist cultures is that he'd value group goals, obligations, and group loyalty. (that's gonna be real fun for us lol).
The other axes are kind of shooting in the dark, even by the standards of this analysis; poetry could be a hobby that he takes pride in, but whether that means he's operates at a high-context level or low-context level is hard to tell. We have no idea what his time orientation is (what does he think is a polite time to show up to a function), and we have very little idea about where he falls on the "humans have infinite potential" to "humans are born with inherent qualities and that's it".
Honestly, I'm stealing your adoption slot since Velorien shot down
This isn't a bad approach and I'm probably going to take some of it, although the trick is not accidentally reminding him of us being missing-nin.
Edited plan, though I have to go run to errands and won't be able to edit the plan for probably another five hours or so.
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Good point, I've cut my "Misc" scenes that'd be difficult to off-screen; the rest of that section can be just an AAR.
Ditto.
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- USA
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- He/Him
Why are you teaching clanless ninja sealing and then steering them to the Daisho? Why not simply offer to train some Daisho kids?
What is this "propensity for ink drawings" of which you speak?
What does "how we operate / the rules" refer to?
The Haru part sounds like fun; the rest of it doesn't particularly grab me but I'm sure I can make it work. It's all perfectly serviceable.
In other news...
VERY low turnout, and the last few haven't been great shakes either. Any ideas what's going on? Are people simply losing interest in the quest?
May be because it's MLK long weekend in the states, so people are off doing RL things perhaps.
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I'd...I'd assumed since the Daisho had sealmasters every generation save this one that the Clan Head had the skills/wisdom to teach and the kids just didn't have the skill?
...Am I misinterpreting what "this generation" means?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
For my part, I just haven't been all that interested in the plans put out recently, nor had the time to really put together my own.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
Oblique reference to seals - drawings in ink that the Daisho Clan are very interested in.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
I have also noticed somewhat higher tensions recently (partially responsible for some of the heated arguments on discord), and I have a gut feeling that this is analogous to The SlogTM that we went through in previous situations like (to name the most extreme example) the Election arc.
It doesn't quite fit, especially now that we're starting to intersperse pet projects into the action plans, but it might still be either The SlogTM or a related phenomenon.
Me personally, I've been busy and sleep-deprived a lot recently so I'm not a representative sample when I say that I feel tired and not super motivated, so unfortunately I can't draw on more than gut-feeling analysis of the rest of the hivemind right now.
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Edits made according to eaglejarl's comments:
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Can't say for everyone, but I personally don't like any of current plans that much.
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- The state of Paranoia
I've been too busy irl to read over the plans, unfortunately, and don't feel comfortable voting blindly. I've got time right now, so I'll take a look if voting's still open.
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Erm, to me this sounds like we're comparing either the net worth of the two clans, or how much we care about our families? These possibilities sound either rude or just weird, so I'm guessing that I'm misinterpreting it. What does it actually mean?
[X] Action Plan: Sealing Contracts
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[X] Action Plan: Sealing Contracts
Looks decent enough.
Looks decent enough.
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- USA
Personally, I feel the pacing has been weird. On the one hand, things are happening, so plans can't cover a long period of time. On the other hand, the most immediate thing in the timeline is two months away, which at the current time-per-update is just about forever. That makes me feel like the value of an individual plan is pretty low - compounded by the fact that I also feel like we can't get a whole plot for a single contest submission done in a single plan, making it seem like the features of the quest format make it harder for us to succeed in the contest.
Thinking about this, maybe one thing we need is a Clan Meeting where we throw out a laundry list of ideas like people have done in thread, then parse down the sane ones. Then, we can develop those ideas over multiple cycles.