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- Yes.
That reminds me, Mari's eyes were silver as of Chapter 316, you should probably add that to your history.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Aw. Flatterer. :>
Glad you've enjoyed it.
HDK. You aren't with her.
Noumero
Omit Needless Words
That's already included. They were silver since 310.1, the post you're linking to just re-affirms that they haven't changed.
(Unless, you know, she realized we could keep track of TLitF usage by her eye colour and now each time she uses TLitF she uses it again and again and again until the colour returns to silver.)
- Location
- Kiev, Ukraine
Nah, merchants will get more profit by selling at higher value, so it wouldn't help us that much. It would be better to make our own stack during summer/autumn and then sell at winter at slightly lower price. That's a one time trick though, since next year all the merchants will use the sealing bank to do the same. So this time around we don't invest in seasonal goods at all. Instead we might increase the fees for using the bank.
- Location
- Book Fort
- Pronouns
- They/Them
In Hazou's defense, it wasn'tTHAT obvious
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
What wasn't?
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- Yes.
The part about the chakra scorpions.
This sounds like a future contract.
That's a good idea. Except nothing to grow in the winter. I do wonder how the restaurant manages to get its hand on strawberries which presumably rotted already.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
While I'm at it... @eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Are techniques being released immediately as they're given over as part of the competition? If so, can we have a "you looked at these techniques and if there's any training techniques you may choose to have retroactively learned them" pass? 
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
You know, that sounds an awful lot like something we would say.
... You know, Snake Uncle's a summoner too. As far as we know, he's probably also single.
Ah, now you're starting to think like the Hivemind, Hazō!
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
This might be a good thing to bring up with Shikamaru instead. He'll likely know the feasibility at least as well as Asuma, and although he's overworked he's probably not quite as overworked as the Hokage himself.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
WHy would we discuss our contributions to the competition with, well, the competition?
- Location
- Brisbane
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
I've made some edits and left other things alone; revised plan is above.
Yes, and we're going to do a lot of research in the future; while chakdar seals might be something we contribute to Leaf as a whole, Macerator Mk. II, ARS, and other such variants from seals we unearth both through our own research and Jiraiya's notes might be potential targets.
Edited, sort of?
I don't want a nonbinding informal agreement; I want it in writing that we can submit to the Hokage with the full legal force of both of our clans.
Mm. We could, but the real problem is that we completely lack information, and because I was rushing the plan out I didn't have time to ask directly.
Implemented fully.
Revised section to "mention" our Storage seal bank, and mention it to a bunch of farmers and merchants.
Mm. I'd like her in the clan, and doing it when we know Haru's in might help apply peer pressure or something. Mostly, I just want the ability to work with her as soon as possible and don't care supermuch for power plays between clan members-to-be.
There's really only one line that outlines what we expect of them: "Swear loyalty and faithfully serve our interests". The rest outlines what they can expect from us.
Edited.
I don't know how much I need to signpost this, but I am basically adopting them without adoption slots - hence the final line about Tower recognition only being for tax purposes. Honestly, we don't super need Leaf's approval for who we do and do not induct into our clan and give access to our clan secrets to, and having read their characters I don't think either of them would sell out our secrets.
Regardless, I did open up another line mentioning how we might negotiate for more than one slot from the Daisho.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail As a part of finding out that the Daisho are willing to give up adoption slots, we must have found out some details about their clan head, details like name, age, appearance, and possibly hobbies and the like. Could you guys give us some of those details so that we can plan out our approach without having to say "just do whatever Mari says"?
I don't think it's necessarily kosher, since while we don't care about the tax benefit, we do care about legality. We want to have it in the bag in both spirit and letter. Better check with the Pangolin clan and Keiko and explain it to them that is what we want to do before giving the technique out.
Better yet. Also have them present for the adoption ceremony.
I don't see why is this particularly hard. We can gather open source information and use that to tailor our approach and figure out possible reasons why they have to adopt a sealmaster.
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- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
We didn't need Leaf's recognition for the Pangolins to negotiate the treaty with our Clan (Team Uplift), and I see absolutely no reason why that changes now. Ultimately the promise is so that the Pangolin technique does not proliferate, and if the people inside our group do not proliferate it we don't have a problem.
The problem is not that the information is hard to gather; the problem is that it's so easy to gather that we should have it already, but don't. There's nothing to build a negotiating plan for except for "here's the list of wants and don't wants", and being unable to plan beyond that means we have to delegate the task. While some of us think that that may be a good idea, I want Hazou to negotiate competently, given information that he should have; I don't want us to constantly keep saying "oh our stats are low so we can't do it" and as a result never negotiate for the things we want.
Fundamentally, I want to build a good negotiating plan and execute it. Without this information about who we're negotiating with, it's impossible, and I don't really want to spend an update plan saying "gather information on the Daisho Head", considering that we already know that they are willing to give up precious adoption slots for it.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
I don't think we should go into the meeting with the Daisho with... quite so many ideas about how we're going to make things better for them, before actually having the meeting.
That sounds like the same kind of stuff that pissed off the Sealing clan in Isan.
That sounds like the same kind of stuff that pissed off the Sealing clan in Isan.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
Offer: We will --in return for their adoption slots for this calendar year-- offer them preferential seal trade terms (waggle waggle "Heir to Jiraiya's legacy" waggle) , (insert extra friendly terms and conditions) and arrange for them to obtain a high quality(read: not an apprentice or explosives press) sealmaster adopted into their clan within the next three calendar years.
Okay, this seems like an easy sidequest. Go till-n-fill the shit out of the land we bought, get the iron mine back up to snuff, offer them a percentage of income from said land.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Let's not make enemies of the sealmaster clan that has a solid 10% of Leaf's sealmasters under their wing by saying we'll give them Jiraiya's seals and then giving them to everyone.
e: On the other hand, allowing them to "convince" us to give them to everyone, knowing that of the clans in Konoha, they'll benefit most...
And, naturally, we'd be willing to collaborate with them on sealcraft in general.
e: On the other hand, allowing them to "convince" us to give them to everyone, knowing that of the clans in Konoha, they'll benefit most...
And, naturally, we'd be willing to collaborate with them on sealcraft in general.
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Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
We don't really have to do that. We can just take some number of currently available avenues (alluding to secret sealing notes we havent released [not a lie; also who gives away their best stuff?] , pointing to Kagome's "I invented Skywalker and Skytower" status which one of them will hopefully be cleared to know about, pointing to our own independent work) to sort of really underscore why they should bother.
In general, we should also keep in mind that we can probably horse trade with council vote tokens or whatever, so long as its within reason. That may not be the sticking point for many of them, but its another finger on the scale.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
I'd rather let them convince us to do something we intend to do anyway than give them anything.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Note that Tower recognition of adoption is not only about tax purposes. Clan secrets are only clan secrets if you keep them within the clan; if you share them with people who are not officially part of your clan then they no longer get official protection. Likewise, clan ninja get preferential rights under the law -- their Clan Head must be notified, kept in the loop about the investigation (however in-depth that might or might not be), and be given the option to be present during interrogations and at sentencing for crimes more serious than administrative discipline. If the Hokage orders a specific ninja off on a mission for the Tower, the Clan Head must be notified. There's more but it's all in that vein.
The people who live on your estate but aren't Gōketsu on paper do not have these legal protections. They can be yanked away at any time by order of the Hokage, they can be interrogated without your knowledge, consent, or presence, and so on.
Male, 50-ish, bald as an egg, lost his left eye in the field, a little fonder of sake than he should be but not a drunk, likes dog fights, bets on civilian cage matches because their lack of training reinforces his view of civilians as valuable herd animals in need of protection but not much in the way of respect. An excellent and highly respected poet with several published books in various poetic forms, three beautiful daughters ages 9 (Yui), 12 (Ichika), and 16 (Yuka). Yui is in the Academy, Ichika and Yuka both graduated with high marks. His wife, Saito, is missing both legs at the knee but still cheerful and charming. They've been married for over thirty years and no one has ever heard them fight. In fact, they are annoyingly sweet with each other -- it's like they never got past the NRE stage.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Right, but alternative ideas are good to have on hand just in case!
- Location
- Yes.
HAZOU: ...we're gonna have to talk about that.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Spooky! I'd usually just automatically attribute this to the Grue, but it's technically possible this is just something chakra chameleons do,