- Location
- Nova Scotia
So would staying, I think. At the very least we need an secondary platform, even if we keep using SV.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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- America
I imagine the thread would have gotten squished.
- Location
- NY
Fair enough. Given that, I advocate for an alternate Uchiha deal that broadly hits the same notes without the elements that brought the mods down on this one as the most fair option in keeping with the original intentions of both QMs and players.
Stop: Stop
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I disagree. Staying here retain readership and quest participants.
- Location
- NY
Just saying, I came here by way of TV Tropes.
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We really need to update our TV Tropes page.
- Location
- Hiding
Let's stay.
From a simulationist perspective, we can say one of the Uchiha elders got cold feet and scuppered the deal. Art imitates life, after all.
From a simulationist perspective, we can say one of the Uchiha elders got cold feet and scuppered the deal. Art imitates life, after all.
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
- Location
- Ginnungagap.
- Pronouns
- S/H/T
I originally got here because I'd been following EJ's work for a bit and found he was doing this thing.
Cetashwayo
Lord of Ten Thousand Years
- Location
- Across the Horizon
Look, from a purely pragmatic perspective leaving the site to go found a new one is going to be a miserable experience. You will start off excited for the first week or so and then activity will attrit to nothing over a few months until the community dies. I know because I've been in that situation before and if you did want MfD transferred to another venue you'd fundamentally want to go to an established community, not found a new one. Forums are not new technology and cannot pick up random people; only older communities with lots of users will attract new people to replace the ones that leave over time.
SV itself survived only thanks to a huge outcry over a horribly bungled administrator decision combined with server issues on Spacebattles. It was only the most successful in a long series of catastrophic failures in breaking off.
Further there are very few sites with quest functionality of this type. Questionable Questing and Spacebattles have it, but a site like Anonkun makes discussion toxic and secondary to the story itself, with fewer options for complicated votes, and fanfiction sites don't really have it at all.
- Location
- United States
I'll admit I haven't been following the story or actively participating in some time. But I'd like to get back to it eventually so in the interest of the quest surviving I think it would be good for it to diversify the platforms it is on, even as the SV thread continues to get updated. There's no reason this quest can't be updated with both SV posts and Reddit posts (not AO3 links but the text inside the Reddit posts themselves, which would allow for seamless discussion). I will admit that my own quest (which I haven't gotten around to updating recently) is hosted only on SV, but I have no issues there because it's not dealing with anything controversial.
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- NY
Absolutely not. Mod action turning an in-game action which could have succeeded or failed into a guaranteed failure is fucking dumb.
The problem is that I was never able to get anyone to edit the wiki, let alone tvtrope page.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Can a QM please give us something to talk about that isn't this incredibly toxic conversation?
- Location
- Canada
This is interesting as a justification, but I don't think it entirely holds up on its own. Perhaps this hypothetical Uchiha elder is worried about 'Tainting' or 'Diluting' the bloodline by accepting Iron Nerve derived Sharingans, and doesn't want to take the risk of losing their bloodline or having it be overpowered/supplemented by the Iron Nerve in the long term as the adopted children become integrated with and/or marry members of the clan?
- Location
- NY
I am not a QM, but I could provide one.
Does anyone agree that we should probably start timeskipping to the vote while we work on landclearing and salt?
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
The only reason we were getting a deal so good in the first place is because the Uchiha saw the breeding program as very valuable to them. While I am glad that we aren't engaging in a breeding program anymore, there remains the fact that unless we can offer the Uchiha something of equal value to the breeding program we will not get the same returns out of the deal.
Now maybe we can flood them with money and get similar results that way, but cutting out the breeding program and expecting to retain all of the upsides of the deal at no extra cost is asking the QMs to treat the Uchiha like complete and utter imbeciles.
Now maybe we can flood them with money and get similar results that way, but cutting out the breeding program and expecting to retain all of the upsides of the deal at no extra cost is asking the QMs to treat the Uchiha like complete and utter imbeciles.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Quite a lot, unfortunately. Ensuring that typofixes happen both in main thread and in Story Only is irksome enough.
Please stop discussing this.
You're right in theory, but see comments above about the difficulty of keeping multiple instances in sync when copyedits need to be made.
I regret hearing that you feel this way.
Unless @Velorien and/or @OliWhail argue me out of it, it's happening. The last few days have been vastly more stressful and frustrating for us than they have for you, and I'm not willing to go through this again. We'll toe the line and be good citizens; that way we don't have to spend yet more days trying to coordinate seven people scattered around 9 timezones, all of whom were in the middle of stressful IRL events. Nor do we have to spend several cumulative hours discussing exactly what was wrong and why it was wrong.
I typically try to softpeddle my words in the interest of efficient harmony, but let me be very clear about this: There are three people who make the final decisions as to where MfD is hosted and what does or doesn't happen in the story. You are not one of those three people.
There is still a 5 XP bounty waiting for someone who trawls back through...hmm, let's say the last 30 pages...and gathers up all the economics questions.
There is also a 10XP bounty for people solving all those questions in ways that the QMs are comfortable canonizing.
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- The state of Paranoia
I found this quest on TV Tropes too!
For the record, I prefer not to switch forums. I follow other quests on here, and I would probably switch to completely lurking this quest if it went somewhere else.
I did not propose moving platform, only that you post on more platform to grow your audience/readership.
Edit: Nevermind.
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- United States
Sigh...where in any of the posts you responded to did anyone presume that they had the authority to make any decisions about the thread? Of course you have the final say. Duh. No one is disputing that, all we were doing was offering suggestions. If you won't do it then that's perfectly fine, and it's reasonable that keeping multiple instances of the story updated can be a pain. But at least don't criticize people just for making a suggestion, and don't assume that people were trying to command you to do something.
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- NY
Let me clarify my position, because I think the post where I explained it got missed - and it's not "stick to this deal".
It's this. Something that has broadly the same in-game benefits and consequences while remaining clear of the mods.
What I'm objecting to is not retcons and out of game factors having an in game impact (I present my previous deference on Force Walls as evidence supporting my general attitude). It's the idea that a mod action can turn a question which was presented and voted on as a solid "maybe" into an automatic failure, with no chance to re-do.
