Sky towers wear out after ~30 days of operation. They need new ones to support a new offensive.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
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What if they don't want the sky towers to use against the hyena but trade them with other summons and their respective summoners for favors? It's not like we could check up on that and the whole "sealing is forbidden in the Summoner's Path" part just seems fishy. Why is it forbidden again?
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Been 135 days since we gave them skytowers. Strange that they are running out now
The rebel Condors are probably waging a guerilla war against the Pangolins so they may actually need more to keep the Condor part of their empire AND to wage an offensive operation.
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One of Oro-tan's experiments is appearently trying to get our attention. We should investigate that. Yes let's do that instead of anything else.
The 30 days are total aren't they? If they have them up only a few hours every now and then, they might still be usable for a while.
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The Pantokrator, i.e. the Sage of Six Paths who created the Seventh Path, specifically forbade any and all sealcrafting. That, and the fact that his orders are enshrined in Pangolin religion, is all we concretely know about the matter.
Personally, I think the Seventh Path is a place where seal failures are much more likely to do something like destroy the entire Path than they are here, and as such the entire practice is an existential time bomb (more than usual).
Yeah, but I don't see why they'd have been super-conservative with their usage. They seem to be mostly under the impression that we're fully on board with their genocide plans (Pandaa could be an exception there, but I think it's more likely given the existence of Commissars that Pangolin culture has gone through a spiral of self-perpetuatng radicalization to the point that essentially no one is able to consider that someone might not support them for reasons other than being Pure Evil), so they would have planned on the assumption they could trade for more relatively easily.
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Cariyaga
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Indeed.Shush, this was awesome
Although it will have been retroactively extra-awesome if one of you brilliant gentlefolk on the other side of the QM screen would expound upon why the heck Keiko can't use her bloodline over there.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
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What in the name of the Nameless Hunger that Dwells in the Gaps between Minds do Pangolins need more Skytowers for?
Option A: "No, fuck you, fuck this, fuck off."
Option B: "You aren't getting a single Skytower more until you make us some of the richest SOBs on the Human Path. We might have precious few scruples left about being responsible for mass genocide and enslavement, but at least we have some fucking sense."
I swear to Jashin, if we trade more Skytowers for another niche jutsu...
Option A: "No, fuck you, fuck this, fuck off."
Option B: "You aren't getting a single Skytower more until you make us some of the richest SOBs on the Human Path. We might have precious few scruples left about being responsible for mass genocide and enslavement, but at least we have some fucking sense."
I swear to Jashin, if we trade more Skytowers for another niche jutsu...
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- The Deep Blue Sea
Be careful. Never know what might be listening.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
That's like asking someone to name The Horse With No Name! You just don't do that!!!
He'd better be listening, I pledged him my firstborn!!Be careful. Never know what might be listening.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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So, I need some questions about the combat system answered for my Dice Roller/Combat Simulator:
First: Does multicombat bonuses apply at the beginning of the first initiative, or only after everyone has gone? Because it's salient that ninjutsu users may not have their ninjutsu active (and therefore be unable to attack or defend) until then. So for instance, Noburi would only have 3 Taijutsu/Weapons until his initiative came around and he got to use water whip.
e: An alternative to "unable to defend or apply multicombat bonuses" would be "creates water whip at the beginning of initiative as a combat action ahead of time, will use the water whip as part of an attack if it's possible to do so"
First: Does multicombat bonuses apply at the beginning of the first initiative, or only after everyone has gone? Because it's salient that ninjutsu users may not have their ninjutsu active (and therefore be unable to attack or defend) until then. So for instance, Noburi would only have 3 Taijutsu/Weapons until his initiative came around and he got to use water whip.
e: An alternative to "unable to defend or apply multicombat bonuses" would be "creates water whip at the beginning of initiative as a combat action ahead of time, will use the water whip as part of an attack if it's possible to do so"
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We probably are going to give them more skytowers in the end, as distasteful as that is, but we absolutely cannot let the pangolins dictate terms like this and put Kei in a subservient role.
Luckily, Kei herself cannot make skytowers, and thus cannot supply them, which gives us room to involve outside parties in the negotiations. By which I mean the diplomatic triple threat of Jiraiya (Kei's and Kagome's (the original supplier) clan head 1), Shikaku (Kei's clan head 2), and Mari (Kei's sensei and the wife of Kei's and Kagome's clan head 1).
We might need to price gouge them in response to this ultimatum, merely to re-establish Kei as an equal partner. Or that might be a horrible idea, Jiraiya would know better than us.
Luckily, Kei herself cannot make skytowers, and thus cannot supply them, which gives us room to involve outside parties in the negotiations. By which I mean the diplomatic triple threat of Jiraiya (Kei's and Kagome's (the original supplier) clan head 1), Shikaku (Kei's clan head 2), and Mari (Kei's sensei and the wife of Kei's and Kagome's clan head 1).
We might need to price gouge them in response to this ultimatum, merely to re-establish Kei as an equal partner. Or that might be a horrible idea, Jiraiya would know better than us.
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Hey we also got a cook out of the deal.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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From the first page of the quest.
stares at the QMs
stares at Keiko
stares at the QMs
How interested are you in getting Hazou involved in all of this, versus pretty much letting the NPCs worry about it? Because as you point out, Hazou is not the contract holder, does not make the Skytower seals, and is not the clan head nor a lead negotiator. It doesn't sound like there's really a role for Hazou to play here, and Hazou certainly has plenty of other things on his plate that more directly concern him he could spend on.
META: I think it's unfortunate that the pangolins have come such an important part of the story and eat up so much update time when the quest's player character is not actually the Pangolin Summoner. Every time the thread goes on about how "we" need to be doing stuff with the Pangolins I cringe. Like, doesn't the PC have his own interesting stuff that updates could spend their time on? Maybe not worry so much about the pangolins and let them become a 'thing' of the NPCs.
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Yes, and you have 5-10 seconds to do it before the activation of the first one fades. Same for all paired seals.Player QuINOA Doc said:
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If she's with Hazō, she'll follow your training suggestions explicitly.Player QuINOA Doc said:
If she's away from Hazō, she will keep doing it as long as a) she has ample access to Kagome's unidirectional seals b) time to train and c) thinks it's her highest training priority.
Note that Kagome has not yet cleared her to use them in live combat / she doesn't have the skill yet.
I might suggest having conversations about his own research ideas and asking his opinion of yours rather than straight-up suggesting your own.Player QuINOA Doc said:
It's launched in a semi-dome, with the center of the flat side aligned with the seal.Player QuINOA Doc said:
Pain does not stop genjutsu (as evidenced by the fact that some genjutsu cause pain).
Noburi has not tried draining any pangolins, for fear of weird bloodline/summoning interactions and/or damaging one of them sufficiently to disrupt their link to Keiko.Player QuINOA Doc said:
You can use whatever seals your village will allow you to bring (may be restricted for opsec) and that you can afford. "A seal did it" is not an excuse for rules violations - if your seal kills someone, you're still gonna be in trouble. You do not need to sneak them in, or know how to produce them. Storing seals in the Summon Realm to be brought to the Human Path would be allowed - it's no less bullshit than some of the bloodlines, after all.
Yes. At the Academy he was in the same year as Kozu Akari, a girl that he always thought was very pretty until she started removing bits of herself.Player QuINOA Doc said:
As mentioned above, once you trigger one of the pair it searches for 5-10 seconds. This process is effectively continuous during that time, yes.Player QuINOA Doc said:
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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Frankly, Keiko has major initiative issues, and while she also has issues with us pretending she doesn't have any herself, I don't feel that we can just leave things to her.
After all, she hasn't even met up with Tenten yet without nudging on our part.
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It would be interesting to see what Noburi or Akane would do on their own with their summonings. Would they get new ones every now and then? Learn jutsus without our input?
@OliWhail, while you're still here, does Pangolin Reach count as a Wind ninjutsu and get the 1/2 xp bonus?
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Without debating how justified it is, that's a pretty sick burn. "You can't handle your own summons and need one of your own-age friends to constantly 'suggest' things and make sure you're managing them correctly."
I do wonder sometimes how different things would be if Noburi had been the one to make an open-ended request and ended up as the Pangolin Summoner. Would we be getting much less pangolin stuff in the quest, as Noburi doesn't feel compelled to consult with Hazou about his shit?