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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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PSA: Voting will conclude at 2:30pm Eastern, not 3pm.

I have just discovered that I need to be at location Y at 3:30. I am currently at location X, and Y is 40 minutes away, so I'll need to leave before 3. Discussion seems to have slowed to a trickle anyway so it shouldn't be an issue.
 
Velorien said:
Despite a few meaningful looks from Akane, Hazō had been unable to extricate himself from Minami's questioning.
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Oooh, I was almost right.

eaglejarl said:
Usually I post to trigger the alert. Yesterday I had to drive ~7 hours and then deal with family challenges.
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Yeah. It's just that it'd be nice if SV had a system where you could designate co-thread-moderators who could do update notifications, too.

eaglejarl said:
One point you might want to clarify is how you plan to 'cut' a hole in the roof. 'Blow' a hole in the roof, sure -- your team is overqualified for that. How do you 'cut' one though?
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Wasn't Minami surprised that we used explosive seals to cut wood "instead of a 100 ryo axe"? If it actually cuts it, instead of turning it to a pile of splinters, then that.
 
Dissonance said:
Yeah. It's just that it'd be nice if SV had a system where you could designate co-thread-moderators who could do update notifications, too.
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They do, but it's behind a pay gate.

Dissonance said:
Wasn't Minami surprised that we used explosive seals to cut wood "instead of a 100 ryo axe"? If it actually cuts it, instead of turning it to a pile of splinters, then that.
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Actually, the word that Hazō used was 'chop', not cut. Yes, explosives will work to make a hole in the roof, but it's not exactly a precision process. If you're cutting firewood you don't really care about neat cuts, just that the tree falls down / the log gets shorter. If you're trying to get through the roof of a building I probably wouldn't use the word 'cut' when talking about explosives.[1]​ It sounded like you wanted to use a saw, hence my confusion.

In any case, the important point is that yes, you can make a hole in the roof.


[1] Although, in point of fact, Kagome is good enough with explosives that he probably could use them to cut. He typically doesn't bother, being as he is a big fan of massive overkill.​
 
huhYeahGoodPoint said:
Man I didn't realize how much effort just getting people to comment on plans was.
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in order to not be hypocritical - @Oneiros43 I'm worried that the facemask part of your plan of Ninja Stuff might cause enemy spymasters to assume ANBU is in the area. Wearing facemasks seems to imply full face masks, and as far as I know the only people who do that are important on the grand strategy level. You also repeat a few bullet points on accident. You also don't ask Minami about the looting, which seems like it might worsen our working relationship.
@Cariyaga, consulting Noburi about whether the chakra poison is worthwhile to grab might not be a good idea. If Minami is smart and uses her knowledge of us well, she should ask Noburi of her own free will, and if she isn't we'll be contributing to her inferiority complex. Also, ANBU complaints. Cutting a hole in the roof might also reveal our presence to later ninja, who reason that a warehouse explosion or whatnot does not leave clean holes in the roof.
@schlega Similar concerns to Oneiros and Cariyaga, your plan seems like it just has less.
@Radvic Grain explosion is rather specific for an nondescript warehouse, and we don't ask Minami for permission to loot.

Also, fix this in all your plans: Akane getting jewelry from us is conditional on the mission going through. You don't want to explain to Akane that we didn't get her jewelry because we didn't do the mission would you?
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I think you're being a little overzealous in regards to anbu; we had the idea of using facemasks long before we joined Leaf, I doubt other nations wouldn't have the idea, too, in any mission that would require some amount of subtlety.

Adding the other stuff.

Do you guys think we should use skywalkers for stealth? Can we use skywalkers for stealth without it being obvious?

e: That last bit's directed at you, @eaglejarl
 
faflec said:
Kidnap Shirakawa
  • Transport him to the jeweler
    • Take Shirakawa in a crate through a predetermined back alley route -- Noburi and Akane carry the crate, barrel on top (Noburi to keep him unconscious, Akane for strength) -- away from the warehouse
      • When they need to cross the street, Minami sweeps for them with her prism, with Hazou, Keiko, and her making distractions
      • Once they're far enough away that it wouldn't be obvious where they came from, act as if they are couriers with a delivery for the contact.
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Added that as well as further reinforcing we only loot with dumbbutts permision. Also used Explosive seals to make holes. Have silence mines placed to reduce the sound
 
faflec said:
nononon DONT USE STANDARD EXPLOSIVES

FORCE AXE SEAL

FORCE AXE SEAL
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Use standard explosives. We might accidentally oneshot the building. Only joy comes from explosives.

Edit: I do find the opsec a little strange here: don't explode the building because people will know we used explosives (even though this would hide our skills like Noburi's drain), but use explosives to break in (so now they know we both use explosives and have Noburi's drain)
 
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.....I'm feeling like we didn't learn from Arikada.

Granted, the estimated ranking of this foe is probably lower than her, but still. Capture is inherently risky.

...Although. Going through with this could mean more exp, sooooooo.........
 
I still think we should explode the building when we leave so nobody knows we were specifically after the head, Noburi's mist drain remains secret, and they don't know how we infiltrated or how many of us did.
 
Radvic said:
I still think we should explode the building when we leave so nobody knows we were specifically after the head, Noburi's mist drain remains secret, and they don't know how we infiltrated or how many of us did.
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I mean, my preferred plan is luring Shiratora out so neither explosives nor misterators are necessary...
 
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Vote Count said:
[] Action Plan: Ninjas not murderers
Votes: 7
Author: @Cariyaga
Voters: @Kiba, @schlega, @HoratioVonBecker, @Inferno Vulpix, @Orisha91, @faflec

[] Action Plan: Ninja stuff
Votes: 5
Author: @Oneiros43
Voters: @Briefvoice, @Citrus, @faflec, @HoratioVonBecker

[] Action Plan: Civilian stuff
Votes: 3
Author: @schlega
Voters: @Cariyaga, @Kiba

[] Action Plan: Explodey Ninja stuff
Votes: 2
Author: @Radvic
Voters: @Citrus

[] Lore update
Votes: 1
Author: @Kiba

[] Action Plan: Remember the 3D Flowchart?
Votes: 1
Author: @huhYeahGoodPoint

[] Action Plan: Trade
Votes: 1
Author: @Sigil

Total Voters: 13
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Cariyaga said:
God damn it.

[X] Action Plan: Ninjas not murderers
Complete the mission safely, unnoticed, and preferably without explosives.
  • Ask the contact if, should we capture Shirakawa, he would be willing to intimidate rather than dispose of him.
    • In spite of our profession, death-dealing is not our preference.
    • Further, a contact in that gang for him would undoubtedly improve his position. Why not make for a mutually beneficial arrangement?
  • Report to Minami.
    • Describe the potential mission to her.
    • Talk about the chakra poison; give Minami the chance to see if Noburi wants it first, and if she doesn't, ask Noburi and see if he thinks it's a thing that he would be interested in acquiring.
    • Brainstorm with whole team on plan. Accept critiques and suggestions, especially from Keiko and Minami.
    • There are two plans (which each have bifurcations) Hazou's come up with in how to approach acquiring Shiratora; suggest them both to Minami, with preference for the second for the fact that it involves less people. Leave the final decision to her.
  • If we get approval to take the mission:
    • Find where Shirakawa and his gang is located.
      • Make sure to wear facemasks to protect identities at all times and move stealthily the whole time. Everyone within combat engagement range. Use Henge to alter superficial features only (faces, scars, skin color?).
      • Use Skywalkers for stealth IFF confident in abilities to disguise their use.
      • Use Minami's bloodline prism to scout from a distance. Let team see the intel. She keeps overwatch for the mission, making sure that nothing goes FUBAR. Make sure she knows she's appreciated.
      • Have Hazō on top of the building, using Earth Release: Living Roots to track people.
        • Work with Minami's bloodline to make sure Hazou knows where everyone is [to allow Hazou to use both Awareness and Living Roots]
      • Get a solid count of the number of people in his warehouse, as well as any traps, escape paths, etc, watchguards, etc.
        • If we suspect any of them are ninja, abort mission and move on to the next location.
        • Because if there's chuunin, they are an unacceptable risk to engage for little reason and reward.
        • And if they're genin, then it's entirely possible there's a jounin sensei keeping watch.
      • Locate any open windows/holes/etc..
      • Silence Mine the area and escape routes.
    • Wait till we have successfully scouted the area to make our move.
    • Plan 1:
      • Either:
        • Drop Misterators through an open window/hole.
          • If no hole is readily available have Akane pick the lock to a window.
          • If no windows exist, work our way in through one of the doors or dig a hole through the ground.
        • Have Noburi drain everyone in the building to unconscious.
        • If anyone is not drained immediately engage them in combat. Use chakra boost.
        • Keiko, Minami, and Kagome stay outside to:
          • Prevent anyone from leaving without being taken care of. Preferably nonlethally.
          • Prevent anyone from entering the area and noticing what's going on. Preferably socially.
        • Remove Misterator seals from the place.
      • Or: [preference for this bifurcation for opsec reasons]
        • Knock the gang unconscious one by one in whatever order is appropriate for stealth's sake via water whip, if Minami or the team are concerned about how obvious misterators would be in the context.
        • If anyone is not drained, immediately engage.
        • Full team within combat engagement range.
        • Keiko, Minami, and Kagome stay outside to:
          • Prevent anyone from leaving without being taken care of. Preferably nonlethally.
          • Prevent anyone from entering the area and noticing what's going on. Preferably socially.
    • Plan 2:
      • Hazou approach under henge as a messenger, asks for Shiratora
        • His "employer", implied to be a ninja, requested secrecy in the delivery of the message.
        • If Shiratora accedes to this request, go somewhere no one else is where Noburi waits to drain him, with the rest of the team nearby ready to engage if necessary.
        • If he doesn't, tell him that his "employer" has heard that Shiratora is looking for someone to do a job and to meet at [predetermined alley here] within five minutes if he's interested.
          • When he arrives, drain him and anyone he's with, assuming Minami clears the area.
          • Everyone remain ready nearby to engage.
    • Capture Shirakawa and take him back to the contact.
      • Take Shirakawa in a crate through a predetermined back alley route -- Noburi and Akane carry the crate, with Noburi wearing the waterskin Kagome gave him in lieu of his barrel (Noburi to keep him unconscious, Akane for strength) -- away from where they came from. Silence mine the route beforehand.
        • When they need to cross the street, Minami sweeps for them with her prism, with Hazou, Keiko, and her making distractions
        • Once they're far enough away that it wouldn't be obvious where they came from, act as if they are couriers with a delivery for the contact.
      • Get the Snake Poison.
      • Buy Akane a piece of jewelry.
  • Move to the next contact.
    • Use Skywalkers, sleep in Skytowers, Hazou/Keiko meet contact. Same plan as what we did before.
    • Use CCNJ with the team (when appropriate) in Minami's presence to acclimate her to its use.
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Plan updated. Look it over and make sure I didn't accidentally anyone's face, please.

e: On which note, faflec, you are voting for the plan that uses explosive seals to blow a hole in the roof :p
 
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