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Wait, CotWG can propel you into aereal zones?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Is there a reason you can't turn a force dome rune upside down?
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The problem is they get blocked by the ground, they will cut through some indeterminate level of material, but will not cut the bedrock to form.
Otherwise the rune is actually a Force Sphere, as one activated high up on a skytower shows.
It won't tunnel. So you have to excavate.
We could research a tunneling version. We should probably research a primed version with an on/off anyway
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It's already a dome, but it would be really funny to have another game-changing turn-it-upside-down moment.
Okay assuming we're getting back on that grind soon
Priority list:
1) Iron Earth 2.0
2) Chakra Shredders
3) Primed Force Dome with on/off switch - call it Force Dome 2.0
4) ???
Priority list:
1) Iron Earth 2.0
2) Chakra Shredders
3) Primed Force Dome with on/off switch - call it Force Dome 2.0
4) ???
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Force Domes aren't actually domes. They form spheres unless stopped by something hard, like rock or metal. You can't turn them upside down though, it will still start forming from above like a water fountain.
They are stopped by dirt now too, that was a change from the prospective mechanics. I am pretty sure.
Rihaku
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I would place Ninja Radar 2.0 above everything but Iron Earth 2.0. After Ninja Radar, some means of countering Itachi and Konan's flight. Flight seems to be mechanically absurd, I'm surprised Deidara wasn't taken down by a Mari or Kurenai clone hitting him with their best genjutsus, or failing that, Ma and Pa's genjutsu. We really need a debrief with all major combatants to discern why and how they failed to tag him with anything for hours on end, and whether Itachi might have similar capability with Crow Summons.
WoG on Discord was the combat took 7 Rounds, or roughly 21 seconds.
It probably took 7 hours to do IRL though 😔
EDIT: I want to be clear -- this is an eternity in FtD, I have never seen a combat longer than like 5 Rounds. But still not long.
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Yeah. Itachi still has the ability to summon multiple crows. And maybe the boss. We're basically hard countered by good fliers. And if Itachi's smart, he'll kidnap Noburi's sister and clan for the chakra barrel, letting each Akatsuki get their own crow to fly on.
Are there any other fliers Akatsuki can recruit from AMITY? (think all the other villages. Are there other fliers that exist?) How bad is it if Akatsuki attacks us riding all crow summons?
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Air Leadening 2.0 would help with this, shut down flight entirely for natural fliers. Starts very slightly above 10m.
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Mari's and presumably Kurenai's Genjutsu requires eye contact and Deidara was something between 25-50% of a mile away from them. I don't think they can actually cast genjutsu from that distance, nor get close enough to Deidara to actually make eye contact (at least without popping; Deidara is fast and Shadow Clones are squishy). Mari was probably focused on the ground assault anyway, since her genjutsu is more specialized towards mass mind control.
Ma and Pa's genjutsu is a ???, though. Maybe they just popped early?
Kagome's Tears? With Deidara gone it's not that important, but it would still be nice to have against Konan.
We need flier counters. Air Leadener 2.0 probably works, but might also be worth considering a rune that projects a continuous conical effect and can be rotated (think floodlight).
Really? That seems inconsistent with stuff in the chapter.
Not strictly incompatible, but weird phrasing if it was that short.
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I understand that IE2.0 is probably easier (given that IE1.0 was Easy), but I think that a tunneling version of Force Dome is better if we can do it. Force Dome was a Medium at EffPS57, so maybe we could run a prep day for Tunneling Force Dome?
Edit: Other than that, I'd say our next priority is a Konan counter. Maybe a rune that sets all paper on fire? Or just chakra-infused paper?
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@eaglejarl is the 7 Rounds we got on Discord roughly correct? That's 21 seconds.
Good idea, I was thinking hemisphere, but if we can trap them, all the better. Probably worth chaining up to.
This was Easy, right? We can do it.
I was actually thinking some kind of damaging effect, like force or lightning - but the general category of runes is interesting.
Force Floodlight Rune
On activation, continuously projects force outwards in a broad cone in front of the rune, pushing away anything in its path at high velocity. The cone should extend at least a kilometre, and it should be possible to rotate the rune while it's active. (If possible, the effect should ignore gas to avoid hurricane-force winds near the rune.)
Air Leadening Cone Rune
On activation, produces the effect of an Air Leadener in a broad cone in front of the rune. The cone should extend at least a kilometre, and it should be possible to rotate the rune while it's active.
We should store the dragon's corpse for later. How hard would a storage rune be? Since the dragon's not "alive" as it's an invention, we might be able to reverse engineer (or use seals/runes) to make it work again, eventually. Having an S-tier flier in our toolkit would slap.
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped Some questions and possible answers:
- A Tsunade believes ninja could have escaped the Force Dome/Ninja Radar; is it worth expending resources to track down and kill them?
- Yes, our tracking skills, including Summons, are good enough that it's worth spending time and chakra to track them down.
- No, we have no way of scouring the area well enough to find them; our resources are best spent elsewhere.
- No, we have more important things to spend time/chakra on.
- Does Cannai have the time to try and smell out Itachi or Kisame's presence? What about Hidan, since we asked for his blood a while back?
- Yes, Cannai has the time to figure this stuff out and/or track them down.
- Yes, but Cannai can't help you track them if he catches their scents.
- No, Cannai is not the best tracker and/or doesn't have Itachi or Kisame's scents.
- No, Cannai has to bail.
Ooh. A thought occurs. Back in Chapter 666, the Pocket-Space rune was 'could maybe do', and back then we only had eff. PS 45.
So now, it's probably fairly straightforward. Given the scale runes have previously demonstrated, it seems fairly plausible that this or an upgrade might let us pull a Whirlpool and just hide Leaf in a pocket dimension until Akatsuki goes away. (I mean, not really, there are logistics issues and oxygen/food/sunlight; but even the ability to temporarily pull Leaf into a pocket dimension for a day or so would be pretty useful.) And even if it doesn't cover that much area, it seems like a very useful tool to have available.
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Bait them into the sky with clones, Icarus Rune their asses. Even better if we can find other jutsu or seals survive a fall; they must exist.
Spector29
It Only Gets Worse From Here
Article: Co-Location Rune
Rune
Duration: 1 Week
This Rune is shaped like an archway, roughly five feet across and eight feet high. These dimensions can be expanded with more substrate. When activated, the Rune links up with other Co-Location Runes up to 25 miles away. Stepping through the archway instantly brings you to the Zone of the next closest Co-Location Rune instantly. You can see the destination through the archway (from both sides). The archways can be toggled off/on without burning the rune, but still contribute to the overall Duration.
Since the Pocket Space Rune is probably doable now, I thought I'd pitch an idea for our next big reach in terms of dimensional-fuckery. I'm unclear if setting a link-up distance at all increases difficulty vs. letting the QMs tell us what distance Hazoupilot designs it with, so I'm willing to cut it from the spec, but thought it would be a good benchmark.
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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- He/Him
I'm bearish on this; I expect Itachi can survive a fall from a great height via some sort of Wind justu. Kisame can just create and then dive into a bunch of water (terminal velocity means little when you can chakra boost and break the surface tension with a jutsu). Hidan...falls and explodes or whatever nonsense he did last time. Sasori likely has a gliding puppet, and Konan can't be killed like that anyway.
We might have something if we can herd them into an area, make their trajectory predictable by dropping them, and RER their asses, but any fall long enough to kill them will probably give them too much time to react.
This idea comes around every so often, and while no-one has consulted a geologist(AFAIK), it might damage the stability of the local geology. Probably bad long-term for places we care about, and Iron Earth 2.0 is probably easier and has some extra use cases.
I largely agree and it is high on my priority list, just not as high as IE 2.0, FD 2.0, or Chakra Shredders