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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Mari never brain dama&e.
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Have a shadow clone open the narrowest sufficient channel with Earthshaping, after approaching from deeper underground. Oro can presumably give reasonably fine-grained advice on exactly how far down we'd need to go. If the defenders spot it, then try to dig down through at least two Zones of solid rock and investigate, pop the clone while they get a face fulla lightning, which conveniently is the weakness of earth-aspect jutsu such tunnelers are most likely to be wielding; if they flee, mission accomplished, proceed with bombarding the exits.
Sounds like a job for biosealing.
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Imagine if THIS is why we need to get physique to 40
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NO worries we just bumped ACE up. IF you can lift an extra 100 kg per level of boost you use we're probably good.
e: A way to make it all make sense @eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped
Travel to other paths by means of summoning transports the summoner and all things they consider theirs. This obviously includes clothes and sometimes includes things they carry. The bigger the weight, the more difficult it is to carry across. This is not directly its weight, however: It is the reminder that it is not part of you. As such, things that you have reason to consider yours, whether they are things that you created with your own hands or killed (in the case of rune blanks and dragon parts, respectively) are easier to carry over than, say, some fish you bought from the store.
This creates situations where you cannot, for instance, steal things and take them with you across without specialized training.
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I mean, in this case, Mari would only be suffering brain damage if the TLitF cost somehow propagates even when memories don't, which would be very weird - and we could further test with other non-memory mental effects beforehand, like mild mental Consequences or other genjutsu effects. I wouldn't give the go-ahead for this test if I thought it was likely that it would fail. I think that if we can take a relatively small risk of Mari taking another TLitF cost in exchange for a high likelihood of being able to use TLitF without paying the cost as long as we have enough prep time to set up an anti-memory-transfer rune, Mari herself would agree that that was a good trade.
In terms of how frequently/casually it comes up: speaking personally, I do not actually care about Mari's wellbeing. She's an extremely useful asset who we need to keep as loyal as we possibly can (since out of all of Uplift she would be most able to betray us without us realising), so there are very few circumstances where I would actually ask her to pay the TLitF cost; but the idea is not intrinsically unappealing to me, and there are so many circumstances where the ability to put someone in a genjutsu and then wipe their memory of it would be useful.
Edit: On reflection, I'm not sure it's actually true to say that I don't care about Mari's wellbeing; a world in which she's happy and doing well is more emotionally appealing than one where she isn't, independently of her value to us. I guess a more accurate statement would be that I don't care so much about her wellbeing that there aren't circumstances where I would ask her to use TLitF, given which it makes sense to consider it in a wide variety of circumstances even if in most of them we conclude that it isn't worth it.
Reminder that Kisame has chakra sense extending to a "massive range" which may not be two kilometres but almost certainly extends to the range of Earthshaping. The clone will have to be there for absolute-minimum ten minutes to infuse the rune; if Kisame is on site, he will notice immediately before the rune is infused and ready to activate.
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I can see where you're going with this. On the other hand, it just shows that we're effectively roleplaying ! Our character has repeatedly suffered brain damage in the interest of research and powerups. It's been almost as important to his life as Uplift.
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Answer 1: Sure! Assuming a frictionless spherical body, y-
Answer 2: Yes, but the options are probably limited to "make it stop" and "strip it for parts"...
Munchkin answer: Bee Thee Dubs, would that count as professional training or raise our understanding? That's how Snuncle and Mountaunt make progress, right?
Aodyssey
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Hazo: Hey Snowflake, my birthday gift to you is the ability to commit suicide!
I had that exact same thought, but I decided it would be in bad taste, since Snowflake arguably already commits suicide every time she dismisses herself without knowing whether she'll ever be resummoned.
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Wasn't one of the first things Kei ever said to us a studious assessment of the tactical merits of different methods, though? And that melodramatic speech that one time with the wild koi. Birthday gifts are supposed to be a reflection of the giver's understanding of the recipient's interests and hobbies, not just a matter of maximum efficiency.
If anybody was wondering about the context but didn't want to look it up:
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If the Shadow Clone Jutsu creates clones with a chakra system, and Minatosealing creates seals within your chakra system, could a character with the right skillset (presumably some combination of absurdly high TH, Medknow, Sealing, Minatosealing) modify the jutsu so that it creates a clone with pre-built "pathways" for a seal? And could this be extended to 3D sealing?
It does seem possible -- in principle -- to hack SC to produce clones with inbuilt MS, as a Tweak for each MS.
It also seems possible -- in principle -- to hack BoC to produce runic blanks, as a Tweak for each blank.
Do I think we will ever do this? No, the TNs are too high. And the payoff is too small.
Bear in mind that what we know about Minatosealing makes it sound like the 'blanks' are extremely transient.
They're not persistent patterns in your chakra system, they're temporary structures of pure chakra. Making an SC with pre-built pathways, even if you could do it, probably isn't that helpful.
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I'm skeptical. When Hazou Prime casts Shadow Clone, the paper seals that are copied over to the Shadow Clone aren't real seals that can be used. Hazou Prime has to carry multiple sealing loadouts, passing them to his Shadow Clones. This is so, even though the calligraphy work on the Shadow Clone's copied seals are exact replicas of the "real" seals that Hazou Prime was carrying.
I suspect that this will also be the case for and "Minatoseal Blanks" we try and Hack into such a Shadow Clone. That said, even if this were a viable research project, I wouldn't want to pursue it. We already know that it would take an extremely high THing stat to modify Shadow Clone, but this project would also necessitate having additional research stats at a very high level --far beyond the pyramid filler we're currently planning on using them as. I believe that the payoff would not be worth the sheer damage it would do to Hazou's survivability.
I'm afraid that I would vote against any plan to raise these research stats to the degree that it would take to investigate this research project. Doing so would cause irreparable damage to Hazou's build. It's difficult enough trying to maintain the wider playerbase's course for Combat Stats (after several IRL years of campaigning for such). I would very much like to avoid ruining Hazou's survivability just because we thought up a hypothetical shiny.
@eaglejarl @Paperclipped @Velorien , just noticed Noburi doesn't have the "Toughened Mind" aspect on his sheet, which he should have acquired from learning Shadow Clone. Could this be updated, please?
Also, does anyone know when voting closes this cycle?
Also, does anyone know when voting closes this cycle?
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I don't think Vel opened up voting for today?
It's not open, EJ will post his interlude today and things will open up then. Closes at 7AM Eastern time Wednesday
My plan is probably going to be a sanity check for most of the WC, and a 1 day Superchiller/other Easy Rune research cycle.
We'll discuss all of that and then start making irrevocable decisions for the Sunday update.
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That's like calling going to sleep suicide, since you could die before waking up.
Yes they can use armor, however if they take any stress through the armor they'll pop.
Means armor jutsu make SC strategies much better. Especially non-ablative armor like PEA.
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Oh, I wasn't proposing this as a project or anything, it was just a thought I had.
I do think THing BoC to create rune-specific techniques might have potential in a long-term mixed ninjutsu/runecrafting build, but it's certainly not achievable within a useful timeframe.