So Berra would still kick our ass, got it.
Related to this, I just ran the numbers and discovered that both the normal and Golden Oozaru form's effective power level were equal to half their "speed power level" plus half their "strength/durability" power level. Is this just a coincidence or is that how it works in general?
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Oh, right, how large is the total population of Garenhuld? Wondering how big a fraction the Saiyans are, though if it's similar to modern Earth, it's probably much less than a percent.
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Oh, and how strong is Mato?
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How old are Berra, Kala, Dandeer and Lord Vegeta?
Coincidence given that each of those sub-characteristics was derived by adding/subtracting half of the overall power level in the first place, but hey, I'll take it.
Actually substantially higher than modern Earth's thanks to all the infrastructural tech the Saiyans have helped introduce and the lightning-swift rate of advance. 13 billion people.
Mato is a bit shy of one million units.
Late-thirties to early forties.
No I meant how can we also get the Teacher skill from our mother? Do we learn how to be a teacher using The Power of Learning and do a sub-vote asking for our mother teach us how to teach or something else?
Isn't that what New Tricks is about?
Only 1.9 billion? Would've expected at least 2 billion considering his feats and the fact that he was Gohan.
Learning to be a teacher would be The Power of Learning, yes, and I'll again find the best teacher you know to ask or can find. You can ask for her specifically, though.
As others mentioned, New Tricks is about Ki Talents specifically.
Gohan briefly turned SSJ2 in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and thus broke his cap on base power. That said, he wasn't aware of it and had little time to train beyond that in any case, and thus was only marginally stronger than Goku as a Super Saiyan by the time of the Cell Games.
Does this only apply to combat or does it hold true outside of it?
It holds true outside of it, yes.
So it occurs to me... does Oozaru have more life forcé than the normal form? I mean, one would think that yes given that it focuses on strength and stamina but one never knows. And if that is the case, I am having trouble thinking of something that says F*** YOU! more than a Golden Oozaru Shin Kikoho. I mean, IT kamehameha is awesome and the spirit bomb should be more powerful with so many strong beings in this planet but they don't sound as vicious, you know?
It does indeed have more life force. In general it's a form suited to big blasts, but it would be well-suited to the Kikoho in particular.
I don't think it can be used as an
intentionally non-lethal technique. In the 23rd budokai, everyone was sure the Kikoho would kill Goku, not just knock him out, and if you could adjust its power to make it non-lethal to enemies of similar power, Tenshinhan would surely have done it then. As for the Shin Kikoho, it'd likely be more lethal that the normal Kikoho.
Yeah, but Multiform's not actually useful in combat unless we learn Kaio-ken (then we can have Golden Oozaru Kakara + Kaio-ken Kakara) and while Solar Flare is good, its not something we use as much as, say, Hand-To-Hand Combat (Yamcha style and Goku style), Flight(Yamcha style) or Instant Transmission (Goku style). On the other hand, Four-Witches would be good in melee, but I'm not sure whether it'd be better than Wolf Fang Fist.
Should probably ask about all of this, though.
@PoptartProdigy, why does anyone learn the normal Kikoho when they have access to Shin Kikoho?
Can Wolf Fang fist be combined with the Four-Witches technique?
Does the Tenshinhan style also help with non-combat uses of Multiform?
How big penalties would Kakara get to learn Kiko and Shin Kikoho?
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Also, which of the traditional styles are most used, and which are least used? Are there any styles other than Goku and Vegeta styles that are more used amongst specific groups?
Same reason Vegeta stylists learn the Galick Gun when they have access to the Final Flash: sometimes you don't
want to go all-out.
It can.
It improves general facility in all its involved techniques, like any style, so by extension yes.
No more than any other technique. The various iterations of Kikoho are particularly strong blasts pound-for-pound, yes, and are high-stakes, but they are just blasts at the end of the day. Nothing keeps you from modulating them, although they are a poor choice for that. More to the point, killing somebody with a single shot of
anything is nearly impossible until you reach a significant disparity in power levels, and Kikoho offers nothing intrinsically to change that, unlike the Makankosappo or the Kienzan. It's just a really strong blast.
Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Piccolo. Gohan as an alternative to the overwhelming offensive nature of Goku while remaining an aggressive hand-to-hand-focused form, and Piccolo as a highly balanced style (Goku and Vegeta's forms are obvious). There's no real demographic variation other than the Clan divide, though.
The Saiyans have accurate records about them, yes, but I don't think Kakara does, though she might have heard some stories about Goku's deeds and have some knowledge of most major villains (Freeza, Cell, Buu, possibly King Piccolo, Beerus). Only quote I found about it is below, but that's mostly referring to Goku's pre-DBZ adventures.
I was referring to
all of his adventures by that quote. Kakara is no historian, but she knows the basics, especially when those basics are folk tales by now.
[X] Just enter.
[X] Yes, it'll be useful if you ever fight somebody at your power level. It's inappropriate in this setting, though, so you've left it at home.
[X] Yes.
still open right?
Yep!
Just tossing it out there guys, while we should argue that Dandeer shouldn't be burned at the stake, we should also remember that The One And Only Reason Kakara hasn't killed the bitch yet is because Jaffur has first dibs as far as she is concerned. Hell she straight up stated to herself that if Jaffur was rendered unable to take his revenge for some reason or another, that everything around her would turn to ashes as she flew to Dandeer to kill her personally.
So yeah. Kakara might argue for Dandeer to Not Be Killed, I Very Highly Doubt her traits and such will allow for anything resembling Mercy to be done here.
This is true, and a major point. However, this just means Kakara will have to face the agression in herself to argue peace for others. Fortunately, Kakara is a multifaceted individual, and I believe in her.
@PoptartProdigy would we need a willpower check to choose "Pacifist" over "A Cause"?
This
is a fairly significant issue. Kakara will need a willpower check in order to succeed at speaking on behalf of mercy for Dandeer, because while Kakara believes in nonviolence, she also hates Dandeer with a burning passion. To date she hasn't been forced to confront that source of cognitive dissonance, but arguing for mercy at the Council absolutely would bring it to the forefront. In fact, arguing
for killing Dandeer would impose similar conflict.
Either way, the moment Kakara has to face her feelings about Dandeer promises to be a landmark moment in her development.
