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Sensei isn't necessary to bring in, but he could train us better and offer expert advice on unsealing Jaffur. Plus Seer shenanigans. On the other hand, that has to weigh against the fact that if he's too cautious or loyal, he could bring the wrath of Berra down on us. And if he doesn't, and Berra finds out he knew, he'll be in plenty of hot water himself. In other words, telling him not only puts the conspiracy at risk, but Sensei as well. I don't think the benefits are worth it.

Sooooo...
[X] No. Patriarch Yammar makes good points about his reliability. You don't really know him yet. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" options are permanently struck from the yearly options and will not reappear in the absence of new information; your co-conspirators will respect your judgment as the one who knows this man most on a matter as delicate as this)

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I like the text of Hopeful quite a bit, though I'm not keen on seeing what happens when someone doesn't live up to K's expectations. (It'll be good, though. Uh, character building.) Like @Deathbybunnies I'm a little wary of the name, plus I'm eager to see what else people come up with. (@Lailoken, write up Spunky! I'd so vote for that.)
 
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PoptartProdigy said:
The won who wins
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-> one who wins

PoptartProdigy said:
wondering what to say and how to.
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This seems a little clunky to me. How do you like "what to say[,] and how to say it" or "what to say, and how"?


PoptartProdigy said:
Specific, detailed, and focused. An excellent trait. That being said, in this case I have to shoot it down. It is specific enough that it shares the same trait-space as "A Cause" -- namely, it's a specific ambition towards which Kakara can drive herself. I keep those to a "one at a time" dynamic to avoid bloat or split focus. I will definitely keep the text of this one in mind, once "A Cause" is discharged, one way or the other, as something that may crop up.

Denied.
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Shucks. Glad you liked it! Look forward to seeing it potentially pop up again.
 
Does the conspiracy already know how much we've told Sensei Carrick?

If they do nothing to bring him in, it's possible that Sensei will put together his own conspiracy, and we'll eventually conflict... of course, he's a Seer, so it may not be a problem
 
[X] "Hopeful" : Above all things, Kakara hopes and believes in making tomorrow better than today. All of the political effort, all the training, everything, it's not just about righting past wrongs, but about making things in the future better. Kakara believes this is possible. She holds onto that hope, uses it as the core of her drive to change herself and others. Not to mold them or force them or beat them down, but to lift them up, to perceive and strive for the hope that anyone can be better. Grandpa Gohan didn't have much hope for Jaffur, but he admitted he was wrong. Maybe what the Exiles need now is some Hope, a vision to be stirred toward.
 
All of this speculation about how much sensei knows makes me wonder how much seers influence politics in general.

How many seers are there again? Why haven't we been found out yet?
 
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Langevin said:
Sensei isn't necessary to bring in, but he could train us better and offer expert advice on unsealing Jaffur. Plus Seer shenanigans. On the other hand, that has to weigh against the fact that if he's too cautious or loyal, he could bring the wrath of Berra down on us. And if he doesn't, and Berra finds out he knew, he'll be in plenty of hot water himself. In other words, telling him not only puts the conspiracy at risk, but Sensei as well. I don't think the benefits are worth it.

Sooooo...
[X] No. Patriarch Yammar makes good points about his reliability. You don't really know him yet. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" options are permanently struck from the yearly options and will not reappear in the absence of new information; your co-conspirators will respect your judgment as the one who knows this man most on a matter as delicate as this)

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I like the text of Hopeful quite a bit, though I'm not keen on seeing what happens when someone doesn't live up to K's expectations. (It'll be good, though. Uh, character building.) Like @Deathbybunnies I'm a little wary of the name, plus I'm eager to see what else people come up with. (@Lailoken, write up Spunky! I'd so vote for that.)
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...it seems pretty self-explanatory?
 
[X] No. Patriarch Yammar makes good points about his reliability. You don't really know him yet. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" options are permanently struck from the yearly options and will not reappear in the absence of new information; your co-conspirators will respect your judgment as the one who knows this man most on a matter as delicate as this)
[X] "Passionate." You are alive in a way it seems few other people are. When you look at the world, you see it exploding with amazing things that you want to experience or possess. You can do no less than to burn just as brightly.

The Passionate Pacifist, someone who sees the beauty in all things and understands how fragile they are.
 
[X] Yes. You can trust him with this. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" option occurs next year; even if you don't take it, somebody will approach him to bring him in)

[X] "Hopeful" : Above all things, Kakara hopes and believes in making tomorrow better than today. All of the political effort, all the training, everything, it's not just about righting past wrongs, but about making things in the future better. Kakara believes this is possible. She holds onto that hope, uses it as the core of her drive to change herself and others. Not to mold them or force them or beat them down, but to lift them up, to perceive and strive for the hope that anyone can be better. Grandpa Gohan didn't have much hope for Jaffur, but he admitted he was wrong. Maybe what the Exiles need now is some Hope, a vision to be stirred toward.
 
I'm just looking forward to planning for Year 4.

Plan 'Fuck Da World' mk2!
 
[X] "Improver" : Above all things, Kakara believes in making tomorrow better than today. All of the political effort, all the training, everything, it's not just about righting past wrongs, but about making things in the future better. Kakara believes this is possible. She holds onto that hope, uses it as the core of her drive to change herself and others. Not to mold them or force them or beat them down, but to lift them up, to perceive and strive for the hope that anyone can be better. Grandpa Gohan didn't have much hope for Jaffur, but he admitted he was wrong. Maybe what the Exiles need now is some Hope, a vision to be stirred toward.

Almost the exact same description, but less likely to be misunderstood.
 
[X] Yes. You can trust him with this. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" option occurs next year; even if you don't take it, somebody will approach him to bring him in)

[X] "Hopeful" : Above all things, Kakara hopes and believes in making tomorrow better than today. All of the political effort, all the training, everything, it's not just about righting past wrongs, but about making things in the future better. Kakara believes this is possible. She holds onto that hope, uses it as the core of her drive to change herself and others. Not to mold them or force them or beat them down, but to lift them up, to perceive and strive for the hope that anyone can be better. Grandpa Gohan didn't have much hope for Jaffur, but he admitted he was wrong. Maybe what the Exiles need now is some Hope, a vision to be stirred toward.
 
Andres110 said:
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I'm just spitballing interesting narratives here. Don't take it too seriously.

Poptart stated that a sorcerer cleared Maya. She's not a Saiyan in a masque. However, if we consider that Yammar might not be the psychotic monster he's shown no sign of being, that leaves the possibility that he just really wanted to get the rebellious Saiyan society under control with a show of intimidation he didn't actually go through with. It's not like he'd be able to pardon an entire clan of Super-Saiyans and just leave them wandering around, anyway. So, make up a really intimidating story, get your most loyal subordinates to serve as "witnesses" to it, seal them, mindwipe them, add a compulsion against contemplating or believing anything Saiyan-ish, and let them live out their lives as humans. Maybe they'll have kids, but no big deal. The masques are so thorough that even a DNA test doesn't reveal them to be Saiyans, so the kids would just be humans.

-but inheritance is wonky, especially when you add magic and Super-Saiyans into the mix.
 
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Adept_Woodwright said:
Does the conspiracy already know how much we've told Sensei Carrick?

If they do nothing to bring him in, it's possible that Sensei will put together his own conspiracy, and we'll eventually conflict... of course, he's a Seer, so it may not be a problem
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You told them everything, yes.

fictionfan said:
All of this speculation about how much sensei knows makes me wonder how much seers influence politics in general.

How many seers are there again? Why haven't we been found out yet?
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Maybe three hundred actively practicing Seers. You have not been found out thanks to phenomenal informational compartmentalization. The people aware of your Sight are: Berra, Kala (your mother), Raditz, Dandelor, Carrick, and Maya.

fictionfan said:
[X] "Improver" : Above all things, Kakara believes in making tomorrow better than today. All of the political effort, all the training, everything, it's not just about righting past wrongs, but about making things in the future better. Kakara believes this is possible. She holds onto that hope, uses it as the core of her drive to change herself and others. Not to mold them or force them or beat them down, but to lift them up, to perceive and strive for the hope that anyone can be better. Grandpa Gohan didn't have much hope for Jaffur, but he admitted he was wrong. Maybe what the Exiles need now is some Hope, a vision to be stirred toward.

Almost the exact same description, but less likely to be misunderstood.
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Not that I had approved that, but I suppose it's fine. I'll merge that into "Hopeful", or vice-versa if this picks up enough votes, given that in terms of how I execute them they're indistinct.

Gore17 said:
By the way, @PoptartProdigy, since this is the end of the year, did we have a sorcerer look at Maya?
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In this case:

PoptartProdigy said:
your Dad hasn't checked her to see if she's a secret Sealed saiyan like some people thought
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He's been busy. He'll have found the time for it by the next post.

Lailoken said:
Yup. Turns out Yammar isn't such a bad guy after all, and we found out what happens when mind-wiped Super-Saiyans conceive children in their masques.
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You are so interesting. :D By the way, if you want "Spunky" as more than a joke, go ahead and write something up for it. I'd be interested to see what you come up with.

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[X] "Hopeful" : Above all things, Kakara hopes and believes in making tomorrow better than today. All of the political effort, all the training, everything, it's not just about righting past wrongs, but about making things in the future better. Kakara believes this is possible. She holds onto that hope, uses it as the core of her drive to change herself and others. Not to mold them or force them or beat them down, but to lift them up, to perceive and strive for the hope that anyone can be better. Grandpa Gohan didn't have much hope for Jaffur, but he admitted he was wrong. Maybe what the Exiles need now is some Hope, a vision to be stirred toward.
No. of Votes: 20
KnightDisciple
Alex pears
anailater
Aranfan
CaesriusPolybius
Cariyaga
codeRR
Enerael
fictionfan
Gore17
Karnax626
NotAlwaysFanfic
NyxNull
pianoman
Pyran
Rihtan
Sucal
Terrabrand
The Meddler
veekie

[X] "Passionate." You are alive in a way it seems few other people are. When you look at the world, you see it exploding with amazing things that you want to experience or possess. You can do no less than to burn just as brightly.
No. of Votes: 10
ChildishChimera
00mega
Andres110
Bakkasama
Deathbybunnies
ElleonXan
KaintukeeBob
Lupercal
The Fourth Monado
XkaliburRage

[X] "Organized." This is not a matter of dramatics. You have your goals. What does it take to achieve them? All else falls away once you have determined that.
No. of Votes: 2
MoonBunny
Bilbo Baggins

[x] Yes. You can trust him with this. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" option occurs next year; even if you don't take it, somebody will approach him to bring him in)
No. of Votes: 14
KnightDisciple
anailater
Aranfan
Bilbo Baggins
Gore17
Lupercal
NyxNull
pianoman
Rihtan
Sucal
Terrabrand
The Fourth Monado
The Meddler
veekie

[X] No. Patriarch Yammar makes good points about his reliability. You don't really know him yet. ("Recruit Sensei Carrick" options are permanently struck from the yearly options and will not reappear in the absence of new information; your co-conspirators will respect your judgment as the one who knows this man most on a matter as delicate as this)
No. of Votes: 12
ChildishChimera
00mega
Bakkasama
Bommelom
Cariyaga
Deathbybunnies
ElleonXan
KaintukeeBob
Karnax626
Langevin
MoonBunny
XkaliburRage

-[x] however over the course of your lessons mention that you fought against the sealing. He is likely to teach more if he knows we are also against mind control.
No. of Votes: 3
MoonBunny
Deathbybunnies
Karnax626

I did specify no write-ins unless stated otherwise. This will come up in the future as a choice you may take. For now, struck.

Total No. of Voters: 35

This is one of the most engaged votes in the running of the quest. 42 post ratings to 35 votes. Now, not everybody voting rated the post, but that's still a really high number.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
This is one of the most engaged votes in the running of the quest. 42 post ratings to 35 votes. Now, not everybody voting rated the post, but that's still a really high number.
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Its a decision deciding things about a persons character those always get more votes than others.

For instance on SB I got to observe a full scale wifu war in there is no gate and the GG:CORE ascendance votes.

Over 100+ people came out of the wood work for each.
 
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