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- Somewhere I shouldn't be
@PoptartProdigy - would Kakara instinctively know her current expressed power level? If so, about what is it?
Dragon Ball: After the End
VicSage
Not Crazy
- Location
- Czechoslovakia
Damn, someone beat me to it (in general, didn't think about the ship).
We don't necessarily have to Win, we just have to Not Lose. Use the base plan from the start, then IT away once we have enough people freed to get an effective Senzu resistance. Maybe use a Multiform to send multiple signals around the planet, drop down in PL, and end the multiform before one last IT in order to make it harder to track us. Meet up with the Senzus later, or just survive on our own.
This is, of course, dependent on this not being a worse outcome than the vision. It gives us more freedom of movement and action, but there would absolutely be severe consequences.
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
I'm fairly sure she doesn't remember it. I have a mini-plan-part-thing, by the way:
[ ] "Dandeer, you need to Unseal your memories. This wasn't part of the plan, and if you don't remember right now, we all lose."
We thought things through on a strategic level, we just weren't at all paranoid enough.
Again, I think she's a crazy self-mind-editor. Sealed her reluctance to kill the other Sorcerors, then unsealed her emotions and sealed her memories away instead. Convincing her to wake up would probably be quite disorienting.
Factor in the multiple personalities. We need a contingency for if she suddenly becomes a psychopath.
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- Here and there
- Pronouns
- He/Him
See I think we're correct, but I have no real proof, and there are a few people who think bringing up the sorcerers is a bad idea. I'm not really sure how to include a reference to it without potentially pushing Dandeer off the deep end.
Also while I don't see how this speech could fuck up the Future Plan, part of me is terrified that it will somehow. God I hate not even knowing how likely these plans are to succeed. Are we allowed to ask what Kakara thinks of the plans we come up with?
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- Here and there
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- He/Him
No indication that Dandeer even knows we know about it, so unlikely we've forgotten.
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- UK
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- They/Them
Wasn't it a general effect to have everyone forget about it rather than just her targeting people? Though Dandelor did say she'd eventually notice his interference with her memory warp spell but even so, it implies she has means to sense it even if noticing is required for her to take the memory.
@PoptartProdigy does Kakara still remember the slaughter of Vegetan sorcerers?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
By the way @PoptartProdigy I wanna apologize if this came off at all... pushy?... or anything like that. Wasn't intended, but on reflection I can see it being interpreted that way easily enough.
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- Rockford, USA
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- They/Them
Resting (1/20th of current form).
Yes.
It was pushy, but you weren't wrong, so I don't really mind.
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- Here and there
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- He/Him
OK, so we still remember the slaughter. Do people think we should mention we know in the speech?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
Noted; I'll try to be better with my phrasing in the future.
Non-Canon Omake: Jaffur Disabled Negaverse, Part 2
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
Hey, let's see if my last Negaverse can become Compliant now!
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Bagelist said:I had a thought. Can Jaron let Kakara use the Spirit Bomb?
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HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
I think at minimum we should plan for a sudden personality switch. Not expect it, but be ready if it happens.
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- Actually pretty lost
Huh. Is that instinct, or does maintaining a higher level slowly tire us out? Because aside from stealth/Masque reasons, I can't think of a reason we wouldn't want to stay at 100%.
We can always wave it off as training or seeing if it does something if someone asks.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
Time deceleration does bad things to the psyche, IIRC.
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- Rockford, USA
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- They/Them
Is this a Jaffur negaverse?
Sort of the same reason most people do not go through their days with their muscles maximally flexed and their reactions times tweaked to cat-like twitchiness.
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- Actually pretty lost
...Because they're insufficiently paranoid and weirdly unwilling to be slightly training every second of the day?
Or is it going to look like insecurity if we do that? "I'm totally just training, now look at how big my Power Level is."
Even at 5% that would be an issue if was going to be, though.
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- Here and there
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- He/Him
I got that in one of them, I'll add it to the generic write in I made.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
@PoptartProdigy How would you prefer we format our "talk to Dandeer" plan? I uh... assume you don't want MfD-depth of plans, but there's a few points to hit with it..
e: ...Can Kakara's shade affect the world, like, physically? Could she unlock the, uh, clasps while a shade?
e: ...Can Kakara's shade affect the world, like, physically? Could she unlock the, uh, clasps while a shade?
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- Actually pretty lost
Yeah I was making a plan but then realised it was looking like my plan that got retconned, so I didn't bother.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
- Location
- Bottom of the barrel
[X] The original plan. As the vision counseled, Kakara will break her restraints, wreak havoc in order to give the Senzus an opportunity to escape, and send messages to as many people as she can giving them the coordinates to Senzu Hall and an order to get under cover. When she is finally subdued, she will cast herself free in a mind projection to escape Sealing. She'll find a safe place to anchor, and find a way to get stronger in preparation for her return later.
"Hey 18 , Hey 18."
"WHAT"
"We have pretty hair."
"Shut up Ghost Kakara"
"Hey 18 , Hey 18."
"WHAT"
"We have pretty hair."
"Shut up Ghost Kakara"
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- Rockford, USA
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- They/Them
Because doing so is impractical and also uncomfortable. Like, right now, flex. Just your arms, but as much as you can. Hold that for ten minutes.
It's tiring.
I'm unlocking tomorrow. Work out between each other which points you want to hit, and have the plan contain those points. I'll feature it in the unlock with annotations so casual readers can parse it.
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
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- Midwest, USA
Honestly, I'm still okay with Future Kakara's plan. It's a bit more realistic, but it intersects well with Yammar's plan; if both of us work to free the Senzus, not only will it much-boost that particular maneuver, it might well give us time to guarantee getting a warning off to all the Misfits.
Also, Yammar continues to show himself a deeper and more complex character. He blows Tywin "I Only Think I'm Smart" Lannister out of the water.
But beyond that, I am truly intrigued, fascinated, and excited by the possibilities throwing ourselves into the wider galaxy might open up. No, we won't get MOAR POWAH/TRANSFORMASHUNS, but we will gain knowledge and wisdom, methinks, and perhaps find a few pleasant surprises along the way. And then, when we return, our allies will have grown in strength and skill, and we may well have a much better chance than we think we do.
Also, @PoptartProdigy can confirm or side-step this, but my interpretation of how Future Kakara expresses the "you'll not actually get free but the Senzus will escape" is because there are 4 FPSSJs standing there as dutiful servants for Dandeer. So technically we might break out of our Seal, but it's unlikely we'd actually escape. But we could raise enough ruckus and focus enough attention (again, especially with Yammar's contributions) that the Senzus can slip out.
Also, Yammar continues to show himself a deeper and more complex character. He blows Tywin "I Only Think I'm Smart" Lannister out of the water.
But beyond that, I am truly intrigued, fascinated, and excited by the possibilities throwing ourselves into the wider galaxy might open up. No, we won't get MOAR POWAH/TRANSFORMASHUNS, but we will gain knowledge and wisdom, methinks, and perhaps find a few pleasant surprises along the way. And then, when we return, our allies will have grown in strength and skill, and we may well have a much better chance than we think we do.
Also, @PoptartProdigy can confirm or side-step this, but my interpretation of how Future Kakara expresses the "you'll not actually get free but the Senzus will escape" is because there are 4 FPSSJs standing there as dutiful servants for Dandeer. So technically we might break out of our Seal, but it's unlikely we'd actually escape. But we could raise enough ruckus and focus enough attention (again, especially with Yammar's contributions) that the Senzus can slip out.