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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

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For all his power, Bill does seem to have one hard limitation outside of the weirdness bubble: he can't make other peoples' choices for them.

He can lie, he can mislead, he can manipulate, he can haunt your dreams, he can rearrange the functions of every orifice on your face, but he does seem to need permission in some way or another to mess with peoples' minds directly. And those he needs permission from to do something are ... "Safer" is the wrong term, but ...

Ironically, one of the few ways to hold Mr. Cipher at bay from us and ours for a while may be to put ourselves into a position to make a deal with him! We stall at the negotiating table long enough to come up with something, then attempt to screw him over in the fine print. It's what worked in canon Gravity Falls, after all.
 
It'd be funny to look at this timeline from Luz's perspective. She goes away to learn magic in another dimension thinking her home dimension is boring, only to find that her home is the most exotic place in the multiverse :p

(I know Owl House isn't going to be integrated, even despite it and Gravity Falls being canon to one another (assuming that wasn't just a non-canon easter egg). It's too new. I just thought the scenario was hilarious.)
 
Owl House is up to DM fiat right now, so while DMs can use the Boiling Isles at their discretion, they won't be getting a King entry until the show is over or until a clear 'main villain' shows themselves with enough gravitas to carry an entry.
 
Vilegrave said:
.....Is Janna accidentally creating a bunch of new toons with her googly eye stickers!? or is it Doofs acknowledgement of them thats bringing them to life?
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Made in Heaven said:
No, it's not that easy to create Toons.
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TempestK said:
QM already shot that theory down. The only actual Toon was the couch. All the rest just had googly eyes. And Dennis is kind of dumb.
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I mean... just because none of the other googly eyed objects but the couch were Toons... they could have been Toys. While I haven't actually watched the fourth movie, I'm pretty sure that it shows us that anything can become a Toy, even a plastic utensil with googly eyes. So it's possible that Janna could have accidentally turned all of them into Toys.
 
AProcrastinator said:
For all his power, Bill does seem to have one hard limitation outside of the weirdness bubble: he can't make other peoples' choices for them.

He can lie, he can mislead, he can manipulate, he can haunt your dreams, he can rearrange the functions of every orifice on your face, but he does seem to need permission in some way or another to mess with peoples' minds directly. And those he needs permission from to do something are ... "Safer" is the wrong term, but ...

Ironically, one of the few ways to hold Mr. Cipher at bay from us and ours for a while may be to put ourselves into a position to make a deal with him! We stall at the negotiating table long enough to come up with something, then attempt to screw him over in the fine print. It's what worked in canon Gravity Falls, after all.
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We are... probably on the short list of creatures he kinda-sorta approves of, at least speaking the same general language of insanity as him. The shit we pull isn't too far off from what he pulls, if on the less hellscapy and world destroying end, and he'd probably want to see where some of this goes with a big bag of popcorn.

It wouldn't save us for long, he'd get bored if the serial escalation tapers off even a little, but it would be a couple weeks or months. Its probably the best we can ask for there. If we were profoundly fortunate we could end up being one of his courtiers such as followed him into Weirdmageddon but we would not have the liberty of bringing friends.

I'm seeing shades of King Rad and Doctor McNinja in the future.
 
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Just watched Incredibles 2 again. I just realized: would Winston's sister be totally onboard with Syndrome's anti-super campaign, or would it be so extreme that even she renounces her negative feelings towards supers because it's so wrong?
 
mangawriter77 said:
Just watched Incredibles 2 again. I just realized: would Winston's sister be totally onboard with Syndrome's anti-super campaign, or would it be so extreme that even she renounces her negative feelings towards supers because it's so wrong?
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To my knowledge, I think she more would've rather things stayed "normal" than Syndrome's own brand of replacing genetic supers with tech supers.
 
mangawriter77 said:
Just watched Incredibles 2 again. I just realized: would Winston's sister be totally onboard with Syndrome's anti-super campaign, or would it be so extreme that even she renounces her negative feelings towards supers because it's so wrong?
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Prolly closer to the second. From what I remember, she didn't so much hate supers as think people were over-reliant on them. It's been a while since I watched the movie however.
 
mangawriter77 said:
Just watched Incredibles 2 again. I just realized: would Winston's sister be totally onboard with Syndrome's anti-super campaign, or would it be so extreme that even she renounces her negative feelings towards supers because it's so wrong?
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Depends. Syndrome was hamming it up as a super as hard as he possibly could. He may have not been born with any natural ability besides brilliance but, yeah, he was very much acting as if he had been.

I'd say he would be just one more tumor to excise. One more false idol for the fire.
 
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PyrrosWarrior said:
To my knowledge, I think she more would've rather things stayed "normal" than Syndrome's own brand of replacing genetic supers with tech supers.
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WinterPhoenix said:
Prolly closer to the second. From what I remember, she didn't so much hate supers as think people were over-reliant on them. It's been a while since I watched the movie however.
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Modus_Tollens said:
Depends. Syndrome was hamming it up as a super as hard as he possibly could. He may have not been born with any natural ability besides brilliance but, yeah, he was very much acting as if he had been.

I'd say he would be just one more tumor to excise. One more false idol for the fire.
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Does this mean we have another nemesis on the horizon since we support supers? Or is she gonna have her hands full keeping Syndrome from taking the company back from her brother?
 
mangawriter77 said:
Does this mean we have another nemesis on the horizon since we support supers? Or is she gonna have her hands full keeping Syndrome from taking the company back from her brother?
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I mean, we aren't uniquely pro-super. In Incredibles 2, she could just focus on ruining Winston's initiative. With the Masquerade and Kings, there isn't any one spot of support to sabotage. The Masquerade and King era has essentially meant the US could potentially be entering a Silver Age of superpowers in the next few years. Doofania is in no way a central hub, nor is it known as a central hub, of hero support or superheroes. We are currently known more as the pro-Toon place.
 
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Made in Heaven said:
[ ] Research human genetics
DC 80 (Reduced by MG acquisition)

You've made good progress with dinosaurs, but it might not hurt to start investigating the human genome as well. All sorts of genetics startup companies are trying to crack it, because being able to understand and rewrite human DNA on the fly would be invaluable! Just think of all the potential experiments and projects you could get to once you breach the subject.
(Reward: New research unlocked)
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Other people have probably gone over this already, but I decided to do some math.
Made in Heaven said:
Learning: 38 (You routinely tell the laws of physics to shut up and sit down, and you don't even have magic to cheat with.)
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Learning: 38 (Jumba is an evil scientific genius. Coupled with the semi-reliable help of supercomputer 625, he presents a terrifyingly brilliant package.)
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Genetics Master: Jumba excels in his chosen field, gaining +30 to all rolls encompassing genetics or any of its applications.
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With Doof's Learning, Jumba's Learning, and Jumba's trait, Research human genetics would crit on a roll of 54 or better (54+38+38+30 = 160).
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Early Access Dummy: Coyote may be assigned to research projects as an 'assistant' in addition to whomever may be completing that project at the time. This takes up his personal action for the turn. His personal contributions to the pursuit of science lower the critical threshold for that roll by 15. Coyote does not add his own stats when acting as a test dummy!
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Throw in Wile to assist and it's lowered to a 39.
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Joking Around: Toons add a certain spice to life that few others can match. Any roll this unit is assigned to will automatically have the crit success threshold lowered by 10, but the critical fail threshold increases by 10 as well. If a roll has a critical fail threshold higher than its DC, the DC remains unchanged but any roll below the DC becomes a critical failure.
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29 if Joking Around also triggers on Early Access Dummy.
 
You know if we do the theme park action in December then there are two ways we could one up Syndrome. The first is to power everything with Flubber and have it be our campaign for clean energy, flying cars, and weather manipulation. The city of the Future as brought to you by Flubber and DEI. The second is to do what Syndrome promised but never delivered. Step right up to Castle Malifishmirtz and get tested. We can tell you how to use magic and what kind is best suited for you. Powers for the asking to anyone who bothers. At such a low price everyone can afford them. Eat your heart out Syndrome!
 
PyrrosWarrior said:
I mean, we aren't uniquely pro-super. In Incredibles 2, she could just focus on ruining Winston's initiative. With the Masquerade and Kings, there isn't any one spot of support to sabotage. The Masquerade and King era has essentially meant the US could potentially be entering a Silver Age of superpowers in the next few years. Doofania is in no way a central hub, nor is it known as a central hub, of hero support or superheroes. We are currently known more as the pro-Toon place.
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Since you guys are interested, I did think of potential targets of interests if you really think his sister will be a big deal. I was just waiting for more people to comment so that I wouldn't double-post.

A) San Fransokyo: This is a hotspot for superpowers for all kinds and would make an excellent staging ground for funding some self-destructive, anti-super acts.

B) Shego's Domain: Shego herself is a super, and was once a superhero. She is also known to sponsor Sky High. Finally, Shego is known to hire plenty of supers. While I don't know how much of that is public, an Evelyn that is an active force is probably not obscurred by the Masquerade.

C) Sky High: This is literally the training ground for supers. It's probably been turned more into a supervillain training ground than a superhero one with the pacifier lady in charge, but a super is a super. Evelyn wasn't pro-villains. She was anti-heroes. She wanted

D) The superhero hospital from Mighty Med: Assuming the "villains win" doesn't come in to play too hard here, this would be an ample target with plenty of injured supers in one area to target. This also assumes that Mighty Med is even a thing here. The only reason I am considering it is because Disney's other live action stuff is here, so this sitcom (as well as Lab Rats which it made a crossover series with) could be part of the scenario as well. Said hospital is based in Philadelphia, so it would be part of Xanatos's jurisdiction.

Of these four, San Fransokyo would fit under her modus operandi, with it having plenty of crime groups to use against each other with no discernible source or head to track back to easily. A bold-faced attack on Shego's domain would risk rupturing the Masquerade, though it could still be done anyhow. Sky High is the easiest target to hit since it's literally just a bunch of super-powered children in one area, but Evelyn works more by secrecy and defamation than mass murder (like sabotaging it would do) or having personal armies to assault said school. The superhero hospital would still be secret, and would also rely more on mass murder than anything that could defame supers.

In summary, I believe the prioritization for an active Evelyn that has not radicalized or changed up her methods too far from the movie would be:

1. San Fransokyo
2. Shego's Domain
3. Mighty Med
4. Sky High, though an attack on this as part of Shego's Domain is open

Feel free to list franchises I forgot about, or facts I might have missed.


Edit: I did forget about Syndrome's domain. I've been discounting him far too often :p
 
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Wanted to try making a character sheet so I chose a character that would never work for us.



Martial: 10 (London could be an athlete but lacks the work ethic to commit)

Diplomacy: 11 (London is very self centered but knows how to present herself when needed)

Stewardship: 15 (Raised by hotel staff and needing some way of differentiating her step-mothers, London has a rough idea of the roles needed in any business. It's a bit of trial and error but her allowance allows for a lot of error)

Intrigue: 2 (London is to public a figure to stay out of the limelight for long and she has no intention of fixing that)

Learning: 1 (London knows how to change the batteries in her mirror. Anything else is beyond her.

Traits:

Old Money: The Tipton name has been wealthy longer than America has been a country. This both entices and annoys people. +10 diplomacy when interacting with those born into wealth or seeking financial backing. -5 when interacting with self-made people and those who don't want her handouts.

Trend Setter: London is capable of buying her way to the forefront of pop culture. London can be assigned as a model for a product planned for release that turn. If London likes it, the crit success threshold is lowered by 20. If London doesn't like it like it, the crit fail threshold is raised by 30. London's stats are not added to the roll.

Known Preferences:
Yeah Me!: London likes herself a lot. If assigned to an action where she believes she is not the center of attention, she will gain the Boo You! trait until appeased or distracted
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AN: It's been awhile since I've seen Suite life, does Trend Setter make sense narratively?
 
Ashmaker said:
Other people have probably gone over this already, but I decided to do some math.



With Doof's Learning, Jumba's Learning, and Jumba's trait, Research human genetics would crit on a roll of 54 or better (54+38+38+30 = 160).

Throw in Wile to assist and it's lowered to a 39.

29 if Joking Around also triggers on Early Access Dummy.
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*Taps Ashmaker* BAD MUCHKIN BAD MUNCHKIN
 
I know MIH hasn't seen Mighty Med or Lab Rats. Neither have Ara or I, so we can't consult. Is there a guide online to which episodes we should watch to catch up and quickly become familiar with those shows?
 
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