DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

[MrHobbit]

Russ already start to keep secrets from his superiors, specifically Riddler, and since he will to contest bad actors in the goverment, possible his boss since the huy was furius when he heard the news, a off the books safehouse probably is a good idea.

To be fair either Super Cinema or Pyroclast is good enough for me. Just to put it there since bith options are good but will come to a permanent decision once the price appears.

Also we are allowed to go red, just not too deep or for too long less it start to cause problems.

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Being willing to keep secrets from his superiors is not the same as being willing to commit tax fraud. Lairs need a lot of money. And remember, we're in a fantasy world. The IRS has teeth!

The last we knew you cannot choose to go into the negatives, but you can be forced to go into the red.

russ's been in the mindscape during the declaration of independence quest, actually? the negative from negaduck was just mechanically being unable to use his traits for it due to being off-kilter, or something.

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I've checked the interlude, and the Yang Talisman was a bonus Russ used against Horvath. The way I read it was that Russ didn't enter the mindscape, just did... mental resistance or whatever.

Is there a link to the discord?

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There is a permanent link to the Discord on the 1d6chan page for Disney Villains Victorious. It's right above the navigate bar. It's not for Doofquest specifically, but for the Villains Victorious group as a whole.

 

[Nystical]

Russ already start to keep secrets from his superiors, specifically Riddler, and since he will to contest bad actors in the goverment, possible his boss since the huy was furius when he heard the news, a off the books safehouse probably is a good idea.

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Wait, Russ is working for the Riddler?

Who else does the government have on their payroll, Mysterio?

 

[Pawn Lelouch]

I mean that most either lose Funds or are not a bad idea to take.

Diecast robots will definilty be something to take but I am struggling to what can be taking for second steward action that would not impared us too much.

I guess Comedize the Supply Lines could be the one but we still lose -2 Funds at end of day.

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Well let's go through them all.

Dino Supply is -2 funds, +1 income, +15 Cruella loyalty. Considering Smarty can't be used for corporate actions and we're leery of sharing things with him, there's an argument to put him on here. While he might steal the income, it would only cost 1 fund for 15 Cruella loyalty which is pretty solid.

Comedize is only worth it if using P+F on it as it is Big Ideable so it would crit on success. It likely still has the 2 cost however, so the main value would be in using this to flip Wile for doing Golumetric, rather than needing to do Corporate Records. So in practice it saves a fund and can be viewed as costing net 1 fund as well.

Bakaemono Supply Chain is specifically them supplying us supplies to lower DCs on certain actions and give higher income. The main issue largely stems from the question of can this be used to hurt or spy on us in some manner.

Tax Avoidance is never worth it considering we just got back into a neutral spot with the gov. Split/Second would be done but its bad optics to do this second due to Negaduck. Robot Doppels cost far too much money to be worth it at this point in time.

In practice the thread is paranoid enough that Bakaemono isn't being picked. Its more or less Comedize if you want the auto crit + are doing Golumetric vs Dino Leather for the Cruella loyalty boost given it pretty much has to be done at some point due to Cruella's current loyalty (this can be done with Golumetric too obvs, just that Comedize needs it to offset its cost).

 

[Rovos]

for those wondering by the way as it's been a while. Pyroclast industries is a corp from Big hero 6 Bot fight, they focus on robots powered by thermal energy iirc.

 

[Pawn Lelouch]

As a question to the QMs, if we complete the expand to Japan national action, would it effect Wile's Expand ACME Products to Japan action in any way? I suppose this is asking both in general and if he was specifically trying to make progress on it the turn we complete it.

 

[Soberan 123]

Wait, Russ is working for the Riddler?

Who else does the government have on their payroll, Mysterio?

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Jokes aside I wonder why Riddle become full director, Agent Powers (Gravity Falls) was supposed to be his superior in Paranormal Affairs in the base game, wonder what happen to him.

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Also another motive to look for the Muppets is that Sam The Eagle is apperently the director of the FBI and technically the one calling the shots in CAIA, who knows how he will react with Kermit running around and trying to reunite the Muppets Troupe.

 

[hleghe]

I've checked the interlude, and the Yang Talisman was a bonus Russ used against Horvath. The way I read it was that Russ didn't enter the mindscape, just did... mental resistance or whatever.

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oh yeah good catch. he at least actively chose to do it though, which shows willingness to do the sort of thing mercurial would need him to right? i want to assume the best of russ here, in which case he'd be able to do it, just at a disadvantage without the trait applying

Wait, Russ is working for the Riddler?

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trying to figure out if it's a legitimate mistake or a way of demeaning the guy myself

Well let's go through them all.

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well-laid out clarification here, though you left out die-cast robotics, i guess the assumption is that it's being taken no matter what? it's a pretty good action with it's DC dropped, though i'm not sure who to put on it with Wendy campaigning for AI (if she's the best person here).
if there's no good candidates/we can't put someone else on diplomacy, what's your opinion of doing both dino leather and comedise supply lines?

personally really want to take supply lines because i assume it would be a benefit for pro-toon PR, especially if the crit gives something like that (which is probably one of the possibilities)

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please say what sort of spoiler something's going to be beforehand to make it clear what people are walking into before clicking it
luckily we're likely to do that anyhow (to clarify for someone who doesn't want to click, Soberan's suggesting we do a specific action

 

[Pawn Lelouch]

well-laid out clarification here, though you left out die-cast, i guess the assumption is that it's being taken no matter what? it's a pretty good action with it's DC dropped, though i'm not sure who to put on it with wendy campaigning for AI (if she's the best person here).
if there's no good candidates/we can't put someone else on diplomacy, what's your opinion of doing both dino leather and comedise supply lines?
personally really want to take supply lines because i assume it would be a benefit for pro-toon PR, especially if the crit gives something like that (which is probably one of the possibilities)

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Diecast as locked in was the assumption. Doing both at this turn seems a little much in terms of frontloading costs, especially with how valuable Diecast is as an action. When looking at the main reasons for doing each one this turn its probably something like this? Not counting the funds/Golumetric argument as the fund cost is net baked in as an assumption.

Comedize
1. Its this turn or wait for awhile due to P+F having limited availability as the best people to do it. (They only have a 69% COS with exp though due to the Big Ideas +20 to the DC + it basically cancels out any Inator)
2. It being Big Ideable means the crit could have massive benefits, ideally something pro toon (How would it interact with the Negaduck turn?)

Dino Leather
1. This is a borderline required action to do at some point purely because Cruella's loyalty is really rough + having a thin pool.

So Dino feels required soonish but Comedize could be banking on the crit effect giving something extra and is now or never to do (Later on while our stewardship pool is probably filled up by then ).

 

[hleghe]

oh, if diecast doesn't have a funds cost should definitely go in then, good to know about that. i thought it was pretty good don't worry, was just raising the idea if people wanted both PnF/Cruella's stuff urgently for instance, since there could be an actual reason to wait on die-cast if we didn't have the hero we wanted.
feels like we should definitely take comedise now rather than later then since we have few stewardship actions to chose from (if we don't take this now while we can use big idea, we're likely to have to take it later on and not get the benefit, and said benefit should be pretty big?) even if cruella's loyalty is low it takes something specific to really screw stuff up, so she can definitely wait since we'll probably have plenty of chance to do it next turn (i checked, she's only at -5 at the moment)

 

[Soberan 123]

oh, if diecast doesn't have a funds cost should definitely go in then, good to know about that. i thought it was pretty good don't worry, was just raising the idea if people wanted both PnF/Cruella's stuff urgently for instance, since there could be an actual reason to wait on die-cast if we didn't have the hero we wanted.
feels like we should definitely take comedise now rather than later then since we have few stewardship actions to chose from (if we don't take this now while we can use big idea, we're likely to have to take it later on and not get the benefit, and said benefit should be pretty big?) even if cruella's loyalty is low it takes something specific to really screw stuff up, so she can definitely wait since we'll probably have plenty of chance to do it next turn (i checked, she's only at -5 at the moment)

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The problem with P&B is that it add a +20 to any Big Idea that must be passed to keep the action, so we would have to have a secondary roll above 120 to keep the progress.

 

[Pawn Lelouch]

The problem with P&B is that it add a +20 to any Big Idea that must be passed to keep the action, so we would have to have a secondary roll above 120 to keep the progress.

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Not quite. It adds a +20 DC to the Big Idea action (Would make the action be a 69% chance of success with exp from P+F) but that's just the singular action. The DC to keep it is inbuilt into the +20, its not a secondary roll.

 

[hleghe]

The problem with P&B is that it add a +20 to any Big Idea that must be passed to keep the action, so we would have to have a secondary roll above 120 to keep the progress.

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it's definitely worthwhile, and i think this turn we're likely for it to be fully funded when it comes to EXP, which should help?
slightly less than 2/3rds chance of success is probably good odds, hard to say. shouldn't be reason to not take the action, though? critical successes are pretty handy after all, and other actions can fail too/we'd want to take this action regardless so may as well do it now/we're unlikely to actually run out of actions that can be taken

when you say a "secondary roll", i don't think that's the case, it's still just one roll. the DC for big idea actions is higher, but if it passes it's a critical success no matter what

 

[MrHobbit]

[X] Keep the PMC centralized around DEI.
[X] No

I mean, if we're struggling to find Stewardship actions we can do because of fund cost, there is an option. It's one of the write-in actions. Another item to give to heroes would be neat.

Perhaps we could think of other actions we could write-in. Our Stewardship actions have a lot of awkwardness about doing them. We can't really afford the funds cost right now. We have to lobby for AI rights, save money for rebuilding, and save money to hire the Dickens. I'd be willing to do Bakaemono supply chain right now.

I can't really think of any write-in Stewardship options that could funds. I'm not willing to go public.

Stewardship
[ ] Craft Cunning Disguise (Must be taken with Cruella)
DC115
Cruella sees through your attempts to get her to do more menial labor no matter how stunning the finished product would look.

... give her the resources and nobody will remember anything but how good she looks.

Outcome: Produce a new Item for your Stuff.
Council Outlook: 2/4 (Pass)

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oh yeah good catch. he at least actively chose to do it though, which shows willingness to do the sort of thing mercurial would need him to right? i want to assume the best of russ here, in which case he'd be able to do it, just at a disadvantage without the trait applying

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I would say that using the Yang Talisman to defend himself from Horvath is different than learning mentalism from Mercurial.

Not wanting to do Mindscape stuff after seeing Negaduck in it is reasonable. A lot of what Mercurial could teach involves the mindscape. Learning from him as Russ is still wary of Negaduck could be self-sabotage. That isn't guaranteed, but I think it's the most reasonable interpretation.

Sending Russ to the Imagination Institute couldn't hurt, but I can't see what it would do right now. Who would we send over? It's not guaranteed that Negaduck will attack next turn. We need to keep the QMS and Lizzy home. Wendy will probably be busy. It also gives me the feel of metagaming.

 

[Shade31415]

[X] Keep the PMC centralized around DEI.
[X] No

 

[Pawn Lelouch]

[X] Keep the PMC centralized around DEI.
[X] No

 

[Soberan 123]

[X] Keep the PMC centralized around DEI.
[X] No

 

[DaviProGamer27]

[X] Keep the PMC centralized around DEI.
[X] No

 

[DrWalpurgisnacht]

[X] Keep the PMC centralized around DEI.
[X] No

We are bleeding money, but there's ways to earn it that aren't doing a slavery.

 

[Soberan 123]

I know this in's part of the vote but I have a question:

@Made in Heaven does Heinz has his titanium arms in this setting?

It was a miss and hit moment in the episode a Road to Danville but it would be interesting if this is a fact that Heinz has forgotten he has them and could decide to lead research to cybernetic enhancement.

 

[mangawriter77]

[X] Keep the PMC centralized around DEI.
[X] No

We're Evil, not evil. Slavery is evil.

In other news, I can finally post this!
[ ] Plan: Magic of (eugh) Friendship Mk. II
-[ ] [Martial] Trap Your Headquarters (Ghengis Khan)
-[ ] [Martial] Develop Military Vehicles (Norm)
-[ ] [Diplomacy] Expand into Foreign Markets: France (Cruella)
-[ ] [Diplomacy] Sphere the Red Car (Kermit)
-[ ] [Stewardship] Study Diecast Robotics (Wendy)
-[ ] [Stewardship] Sponsor SPLIT/SECOND (Wasabi)
-[ ] [Intrigue] Hunt for Star (Tobe)
-[ ] [Intrigue] Investigate the Doofanian Underworld (Kitsune)
-[ ] [NOWCA] Seed Corporate Sleeper Agents: Cloverleaf (non-active)
-[ ] [Learning] Build the On-Ice Inator (QMS)
-[ ] [Learning] Research Extra-Dimensional Tech
-[ ] [Occult] Map Ley Lines
-[ ] [Occult] Repair the Avatar of Felldrake
-[ ] [Corporate] Set Up Gene Therapy Clinics/Lobby for AI Rights
-[ ] [Espionage] Learn a King's current secret actions
-[ ] Personal Actions:
--[ ] [Doof] Chat With the Bossman: Russ
--[ ] [Doof] Ask Mirage to Let You Practice Lying
--[ ] [Doof] Tinker with Your Power Armor
--[ ] [Doof] Deal With Malf
–[ ] [Coyote] Expand ACME Products to Japan
–[ ] [Goofy] Finish Your Degree Online
–[ ] [Janus] Spend Time With Coworkers
–[ ] [Mirage] Reinforce Kronos Corp Contacts
–[ ] [Ludivine] Repair the Martian Robot
–[ ] [Malf] Watch El Matador de Amor
--[ ] [Russ] Spend Time with the Toons
--[ ] [Dennis] Search for Donald
--[ ] [Janna] Work for Brocamas
--[ ] [Jumba] Visit Graceland
--[ ] [Lizzy] Hang Out With Janna
–[ ] [Phineas & Ferb] Know What We're Gonna Do Today
--[ ] [Alan] Work with ???
--[ ] [Moseby] Interact with the Toons
--[ ] [Marco] Search for Star
--[ ] [Tom] Search for Star
--[ ] [Roddy] Design a Lair
---[ ] Russ
-[ ] Don't Activate an Inator
-[ ] Assign an Item
--[ ] Ruby Wings
---[ ] Khan
--[ ] Potion of Invisibility
---[ ] Tobe
--[ ] Augerino
---[ ] QMS

Why I set it up like this:
1) With Doom's recent security sweep, he'll be less on-guard. Let's take advantage while we can with both the Red Car and active infiltration.
2) Russ needs a break. Some time with the Toons, a chat with the boss, and a private getaway should help with that. On that note, Janna also needs a bit of help. Since Marco and Tom are busy Star-Searching, Lizzy can be there for her.
3) Norm is less the optimal solution than he is the best of limited options.
4) Almost everything here is either free or low-cost. We need to save up so we can hire the Dickens next turn to bring home Star, especially since Toffee has suffered a major setback. (The corporate action lists two options because I'm undecided on what direction I want to go, but I'm fine with either.)

 

[Soberan 123]

-[ ] [Stewardship] Sponsor SPLIT/SECOND (Wasabi)

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The QM did say once that a high public event such as this is a bad idea at this time since Negaduck is looking for target to cause maximum carnage.

Also Russ is better unit to look for Star, since is his job as part of the Paranormal Division, and Tobe would be better to investigate Celebration instead of Danville Underworld, as part of his duties as a Time Cop.

Let's try to make sure the government response don't be tied down due to government bureaucracy.

Also we already have a chat with Russ, I don't think chats with bossman stack, so is better to focus on doing with Wendy and Alan since both have major secrets but don't trust Heinz with them so it would be nice to start addressing them.

Also Norm can't do anything that involve organization, such as researching military vehicles, he can do it Traps but not the vehicles.

 

[mangawriter77]

The QM did say once that a high public event such as this is a bad idea at this time since Negaduck is looking for target to cause maximum carnage.

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Ah, fair enough.

Also Russ is better unit to look for Star, since is his job as part of the Paranormal Division, and Tobe would be better to investigate Celebration instead of Danville Underworld, as part of his duties as a Time Cop.

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Tobe has enough experience in related affairs to be of help with Star. I could swap him and Kitsune, but I'm not touching Florida while we still have Negaduck, Doom, and Yokai to occupy our attention.

Let's try to make sure the government response don't be tied down due to government bureaucracy.

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...I'm unclear on what you mean.

Also we already have a chat with Russ, I don't think chats with bossman stack, so is better to focus on doing with Wendy and Alan since both have major secrets but don't trust Heinz with them so it would be nice to start addressing them.

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I'm not trying to stack. I'm trying to help Russ. Plus, Wendy and Alan can wait while we have Negaduck on our doorstep. Russ has Toon experience and we need him at full capacity (or close to it) once Liquidator shows up.

Also Norm can't do anything that involve organization, such as researching military vehicles, he can do it Traps but not the vehicles.

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Hmmm. I'm open to swapping or any other idea that doesn't involve Norm. But I'm not switching Lizzy.

 

[Made in Heaven]

The QM did say once that a high public event such as this is a bad idea at this time since Negaduck is looking for target to cause maximum carnage.

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Where did we say this, exactly?

 

[Soberan 123]

...I'm unclear on what you mean.

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CAIA is a bureaucratic nightmare of red tape and each department constantly trying to undermine the other, Tobe as a example work with the department that handle time travel matters and Russ work with the department that handle paranormal affairs. As mention in this snippet:

Hell was other people. And the worst part of working for the Committee on Anomalous Internal Affairs was the other departments. At least, it was to Mr. Block. Constantly fighting for funding, withholding crucial information until Uncle Sam ordered them to stop, and always telling him what to do as if they had any authority over what he did. Currently, it was Paranormal being the most obtuse. Mr. Block had been waiting for the past 3 days for them to release one of their agents' reports. It wasn't even anything related to the paranormal, just DEI's employee ledger.

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Russ own department was unaware that Hawaii was a cover up thanks to governmental infighting, so you know there's not a lot of cooperation going on between them. So our CAIA agents should be deployed with this on mind, if we want the government aware of something.

Toons tend to receive a break since there's no department made to handle them so this specific action is fine. If we want to meddle with Zootopia affairs, Monogram is definitely the one to send since his department is the one that handles that and they possible would do something about Bellwether prey supremacist agenda and that predator supremacist terrorist group.

Anyway as for Russ personal action why not sending him to Hunt for the Odd Object, it's still part of his nemesis action and they provide means to make them grow as a person. Heck Russ may even be relieved in fighting Blot since, in his mind, he is a true toon villain and may be able to get him out of his funky, until we have a break and send him to therapy.

I'm not trying to stack. I'm trying to help Russ. Plus, Wendy and Alan can wait while we have Negaduck on our doorstep. Russ has Toon experience and we need him at full capacity (or close to it) once Liquidator shows up.

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Like I said Russ is not shape to fight toons thanks to his mind and him passing time with them is just him try to distract himself instead of tackling the issue and consider he is on the Toon Out phase that PA may do more harm than good since he's out of balance, he can't even take a coin one the Muppets trow at him because of that.

Hmmm. I'm open to swapping or any other idea that doesn't involve Norm. But I'm not switching Lizzy.

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Just put Norm in traps and Khan on vehicles, simple as that.

 

[Stratagemini]

[X] Keep the PMC centralized around DEI.
[X] No