I doubt it's Kat. More likely, it's the Cat Mafia that's been mentioned before. And, considering we now have Phantom Blot and six Normbot gangsters in the mix...Hrm...

It's also possible Artemis Fowl may have some presence in Danville underworld as well.

Edit: Say does in DVV base game GalFed also stop any attempts the inhabitants of Earth to leave the solar system, so is possible the Preserve does something against attempts to leave the planet?
 
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I just saying we may as well do something with DaedalOS since is kinda just sitting the corner and we pay it to keep exclusively ours instead of letting ENCOM assume control, may as well try to boost it's sales since is not doing so well in the market, iest very obscure since only some 900.000 users or something, and maybe our employers will start to use it instead of LEGACY thus giving less opportunities for MCP spy on our company.
maybe we'll get something worthwhile to do with it after the digital quest, but there's not really much to do with it with our current resources? seems like we'd be fighting an uphill battle just to be relevant, which I'm going to bet is a really inefficient use of actions. even if it makes funds/income, my general rule is that we'd be better served by something else that gives funds/income while also giving something new we can use/being less likely to be lost due to the actions of other kings (ENCOM can push back and we'd slowly lose our market share/income?)

of course, when it comes to opposing the MCP this is a different matter, i'm fully on board with that, it's just that trying to sell a failing/irrelevant product probably isn't the way to do it. maybe there'll be a research option to advance cybersecurity knowledge? though stuff like that is probably far more effective once we understand the digital realm, so should really wait for the time being.

Hm. For Gloomgold, we just need to give something for our other deal in my opinion. If we show some real progress on the dinosaur matter, then he'll likely leave the matter lay down for a while, which could give us time to push our vision of AI further.
seems like he's not doing the collaboration because of negaduck at the moment (earlier he sent us a letter that just said "negaduck" but it's hard to say what that means with certainty), though we don't know if he'll later change his mind due to us opposing him when it comes to AI. hopefully not? the dinosaur deal would still make him money, so it's hard to say what he'll decide on
shouldn't have to establish formal relations with him though, if he's for it he'll probably get back (so that action should probably only be picked on its own merit, albeit with the advantage of smoothing diplomacy)
Can global actions critfail?
my guess for how things work is that it would be that person's contribution that critfailed, though it could still do stuff like raise the DC (and probably irritate everyone working on it). the specifics of what a critfail does vary based on the situation after all
He, along with Shego, were noted for having spies in DEI and receiving information leaks back in September/October 2017. I think it'll be a good idea to do a security sweep.
that was thankfully long enough to have probably been impacted by the last security sweep, though it might be a good call soon yeah. IIRC the last/first time we did it there were absolutely tons of infiltrators found because we only just unlocked the action
it's the sort of thing that's generally useful (and pretty efficient for preventing negative things happening) but it's defensive so using it too often would be inefficient and slow us down. it might be a bad call, but maybe we can wait a bit more so it would be even more worthwhile when we use it?
I dislike checking the temperature. It might sooth Glomgold, but it also means surrendering the initiative. We'll all start lobbying at the same time. We also have a diplomacy bonus next turn if we don't take any violent martial actions. I fundamentally don't think we will find many allies. Olympia might help. But I can't see any other company being interested in fighting for AI rights. I can see plenty of companies being interested in fighting against them.
it provoking people to lobby against it is a concern, but it probably won't hurt more than actual lobbying, and if the initiative is an issue there's nothing stopping us using a corporate action on it this turn too?
as it stands, i'm predicting that we're liable to get stalemated in this even with 3 funds invested in it, and there's a chance multiple factions would invest more than we can.
there's probably at least one king we can sway here, and i see them being pretty important (enough to justify it over spending the diplomacy action lobbying, at least)
(there's some possible advantages like it making kings less inclined to oppose AI rights because they know we're committed to it, though that's a bit dubious. the important thing is that it would presumably give us *something* that would help us break a possible coalition of multiple kings, which would probably otherwise take constant diplomacy actions. might be better to pay the price now than halfway through with it where it would be dumb to do so?)

(also, thanks for clearing up the xanatos encom thing, definitely missed that but i guess it makes sense if it wasn't threadmarked)
That sleazy son of a bitch is trying to sneak back into our home turf.
it's a bit worrying, but probably not the end of the world? the previous time that rival action showed up it was also spelt with K's, which would be very early for Kat to be back
also, thankfully kat's no longer super scary since we're aware of the existence of kat nebulans and they can't infiltrate NOWCA and ruin everything in plain sight.
Edit: Say does in DVV base game GalFed also stop any attempts the inhabitants of Earth to leave the solar system, so is possible the Preserve does something against attempts to leave the planet?
hmm, they probably could, but i don't think they have a *strong* reason to?
at the very least if they do, thankfully it isn't our issue. should be possible to sneak by them too, maybe xanatos has a cloaking tech analogue? that's what would come in handy if we needed to sneak past any blockades ourself at least, but researching that probably isn't needed since going to space is a bit of an investment when there's other research capstones we can work on instead of chasing trends
 
of course, when it comes to opposing the MCP this is a different matter, i'm fully on board with that, it's just that trying to sell a failing/irrelevant product probably isn't the way to do it. maybe there'll be a research option to advance cybersecurity knowledge? though stuff like that is probably far more effective once we understand the digital realm, so should really wait for the time being.

DaedalOS is not a failing product, it's a good system overall, Alan even believe so, but it don't end up attract attention compared to Legacy. So our OS has fallen into obscurity and MCP will do something about this because the AI can't abide anything on internet outside his control, that's why I thinking is about time we start to humanize CJ since she offers a possibility to replace the MCP as keeper of the Masquerade if we are careful.

hmm, they probably could, but i don't think they have a *strong* reason to?
at the very least if they do, thankfully it isn't our issue. should be possible to sneak by them too, maybe xanatos has a cloaking tech analogue? that's what would come in handy if we needed to sneak past any blockades ourself at least, but researching that probably isn't needed since going to space is a bit of an investment when there's other research capstones we can work on instead of chasing trends

In the DVV base game the GalFed is concerned about humanity spreading they own unique brand of chaos to other systems so any attempts to get out of the solar system is possible meet with deadly force.

Since Xanatos is spear heading space travel and to humans leave the Earth they need to convince the GalFed to leave the planet alone so that humanity can explore space, since they will probably not let humans leave the planet as part of the Preserve.

So this is more of a curiosity instead of mine own, either way the GalFed is stopping humans from leaving the planet in any meaningful capacity.
 
Funnily enough humanity getting space travel would probably make the GalFed more relieved. Now we can file our own paperwork.
Unfortunately, there's about 70 years worth of backlog to go through. I suspect the Galfed have been doing bureaucracy for longer then we've been living in cities, because they make the DMV look like a hippie commune.
 
my guess for how things work is that it would be that person's contribution that critfailed, though it could still do stuff like raise the DC (and probably irritate everyone working on it). the specifics of what a critfail does vary based on the situation after all

that was thankfully long enough to have probably been impacted by the last security sweep, though it might be a good call soon yeah. IIRC the last/first time we did it there were absolutely tons of infiltrators found because we only just unlocked the action
it's the sort of thing that's generally useful (and pretty efficient for preventing negative things happening) but it's defensive so using it too often would be inefficient and slow us down. it might be a bad call, but maybe we can wait a bit more so it would be even more worthwhile when we use it?

it provoking people to lobby against it is a concern, but it probably won't hurt more than actual lobbying, and if the initiative is an issue there's nothing stopping us using a corporate action on it this turn too?
as it stands, i'm predicting that we're liable to get stalemated in this even with 3 funds invested in it, and there's a chance multiple factions would invest more than we can.
there's probably at least one king we can sway here, and i see them being pretty important (enough to justify it over spending the diplomacy action lobbying, at least)
(there's some possible advantages like it making kings less inclined to oppose AI rights because they know we're committed to it, though that's a bit dubious. the important thing is that it would presumably give us *something* that would help us break a possible coalition of multiple kings, which would probably otherwise take constant diplomacy actions. might be better to pay the price now than halfway through with it where it would be dumb to do so?)

(also, thanks for clearing up the xanatos encom thing, definitely missed that but i guess it makes sense if it wasn't threadmarked)
I considered that possibility, but the description is vague. I'm not confident about it.

I mentioned their infiltration to show their interest in DEI's operations. Glomgold wanted to know what DEI was doing, it would make sense for him to investigate how we created AI. Our Intrigue actions tend to not be contested. Currently the only Intrigue action that is anticipated to be time sensitive is Hunt for Star. The Hotspots and Infiltrations are important, but not something urgent. We can shift the order of those actions around fairly easily.

Like our Intrigue actions, Diplomacy actions tend to be not very contested. We tend to chose Diplomacy actions based off of whim, rather than pressing need. We would be stalemated regardless of if we test the temperature. Olympia would be willing to help, but Sinatron and Winston disagree on the matter. A national action asking all the kings what they think will not resolve that specific debate. I could agree with having a hero with 20+ diplomacy asking Olympia about their position in an effort to force a position out of them, but I think that is best done after we have started the effort. Trevor would be willing, but the he has the Yokai pulling his strings. And ultimately the action cannot convince the Yokai to go one way or another. Bakaemono is in a similar situation. Xanatos would probably prefer ambiguity. Glomgold wants slavery. Doris... uh, no. I doubt it can convince Doom to not act if that is not already his position.

Getting the +50s ticking will be important, but we will only really be able to make substantial progress with the Diplomacy lobbying action. Wendy rolls with a bonus of 64 assuming that her AI trait doesn't proc. If we want it to pass, we need to get the lobby rolling. That will probably involve spamming the diplomatic lobby action.

And no problem about the quote.
 
Government
[ ] Assault Negaduck
DC 185
35% CoS, 97+ 11-
88+32+26+50+8=204
Success

To be continued in Interlude: Four.
I'm sorta curious what this implies. Four...The most proximate association between Negsy and that number is that Fearsome Five renamed to the Fearsome Four after his disappearance in the comics, but um...No way this is gonna be that easy....
 
I'm sorta curious what this implies. Four...The most proximate association between Negsy and that number is that Fearsome Five renamed to the Fearsome Four after his disappearance in the comics, but um...No way this is gonna be that easy....

Well there's the christmas gift we chose about Darkwing reboot comic that sooner or later will take effect.

Maybe there's that?
 
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Oh! I just realized.

We had the rival report and we weren't attacked. That means we just need to make the freeze thing this turn and we're safe, right?
 
Well, that was a lot going on some good. some bad but it doesn't really make me want to change any of the things I've mentioned for my rough plan yet

I'm curious about the FCLORP meme though, since it doesn't show up for me
 
useful, though may not immediately help us, since we'd probably need another action for "get CJ to help manage our OS" or something. that could be worthwhile when it happens, though still might take a while, since even going for a chat with CJ to develop her as a character won't instantly make her a hard AI?
since it's taking a while anyhow, it might be best to put it off for this turn? my current plan has doof wheedling russ about CAIA, chatting to a councilor (any works) working on power armor and taking a time management course, and while one of those *could* be dropped they all seem either more immediately valuable(liquidator prep, progressing dream queen prep) or more valuable to our organisation doing well in the long-term (getting a better working relationship with our highly-positioned subordinates and a better understanding of DEI (the possible stat bonuses don't hurt either)
Since Xanatos is spear heading space travel and to humans leave the Earth they need to convince the GalFed to leave the planet alone so that humanity can explore space, since they will probably not let humans leave the planet as part of the Preserve.
thanks for the information. things might be different in this quest since kings have a lot of influence to be able to do some things easier, but it's hard to say for sure without more eyes on xanatos
Our Intrigue actions tend to not be contested. Currently the only Intrigue action that is anticipated to be time sensitive is Hunt for Star. The Hotspots and Infiltrations are important, but not something urgent. We can shift the order of those actions around fairly easily.
this is a good point, yeah, so i guess what matters is deciding what helps our organisation the most.
in most situations other factions seeing stuff we're doing isn't that bad, until it is, right? if kings like khan or xanatos have us infiltrated it doesn't screw us up big time until they see something we really kept secret since they're not going out of their way to screw with us (though this is a different thing to factions we actively want to do poorly, where them not getting info on what we're up to is great for preventing them from making countermeasures)
Like our Intrigue actions, Diplomacy actions tend to be not very contested.
it's very handy that diplomacy actions don't have strong competition, to the extent that i think repeating uses of them to lobby would probably work out, i'm mostly just hoping for a lucky break that will give us an advantage (would it be mean of the QMs to not give us any options for getting support? i want to say there would hopefully be something to make the action worthwhile, though that's an assumption)
if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out, but if it does i'd say we could probably save actions right?

there's a lot more kings than just those, maybe khan could be convinced for it if he sees it as a way to prevent future shenanigans/he believes oppressing them would mess with his survival of the fittest philosophy, or Bellwether to divert attention from predator issues? Shego/Drakken may have a vested interest due to what they've got up to involving drossel too. these are all longshots, but there's a chance of it happening right? if they want something in exchange for lobbying themselves, it's a price that could probably be paid, but hard to say there.
Well there's the christmas gift we chose about Nightwing reboot comic that sooner or later will take effect.
the Christmas gifts said "they'd make things better" and pre-empting one of the fearsome five's attacks probably counts for that, so i could see the goverment pulling off a win here being that, yeah.
let's just hope it makes things easier for a king we don't hate rather than letting someone we do hate get off easy.
We had the rival report and we weren't attacked. That means we just need to make the freeze thing this turn and we're safe, right?
it's been said we could get attacked mid-turn, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't still try to build the on-iceinator, since being halfway done with it will give us "options" (or some other shade, don't remember the specifics)
I'm curious about the FCLORP meme though, since it doesn't show up for me
if you mean the image, it's a string of weird characters, which i'm guessing the meaning of which is shown in the recently released "book of bill"
someone's already translated them to "RUSS CANT SHAKE THE FEELING HES FORGETTING SOMETHING" if you were wondering.
 
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useful, though may not immediately help us, since we'd probably need another action for "get CJ to help manage our OS" or something. that could be worthwhile when it happens, though still might take a while, since even going for a chat with CJ to develop her as a character won't instantly make her a hard AI?
since it's taking a while anyhow, it might be best to put it off for this turn? my current plan has doof wheedling russ about CAIA, chatting to a councilor (any works) working on power armor and taking a time management course, and while one of those *could* be dropped they all seem either more immediately valuable(liquidator prep, progressing dream queen prep) or more valuable to our organisation doing well in the long-term (getting a better working relationship with our highly-positioned subordinates and a better understanding of DEI (the possible stat bonuses don't hurt either)

We can't really estabelish ties with CAIA right now until Russ be in a better mental state, so even if drilled Russ for information we will not be able to do something about it.

Russ gains significant standing in Paranormal, potentially giving him more opportunities within CAIA. Options to solidify contacts in CAIA will be available when Russ is in a better headspace. Russ will be better able to contest bad actors within the government as and when they threaten him. Work for the Government personal action upgraded.

So I think humanize CJ should be a better option than ask Russ anything at least this turn since we will need either wait unitl november to get rid of his debuff or make him attend therapy with Technor and hope he has a breakthrough.

Anyway CJ will come under attack by MCP sooner or later since DaedalOS is a independent system, the Master Control can't abide anything outside his control, and Tron and Alan are using it to smuggle programs from the Grid, so I think starting to boost our AI should be a better option and we are ignoring for a very long time specially since this AI may be the best hope to replace MCP and fight his influence in cyberspace.
 
this is a good point, yeah, so i guess what matters is deciding what helps our organisation the most.
in most situations other factions seeing stuff we're doing isn't that bad, until it is, right? if kings like khan or xanatos have us infiltrated it doesn't screw us up big time until they see something we really kept secret since they're not going out of their way to screw with us (though this is a different thing to factions we actively want to do poorly, where them not getting info on what we're up to is great for preventing them from making countermeasures)

it's very handy that diplomacy actions don't have strong competition, to the extent that i think repeating uses of them to lobby would probably work out, i'm mostly just hoping for a lucky break that will give us an advantage (would it be mean of the QMs to not give us any options for getting support? i want to say there would hopefully be something to make the action worthwhile, though that's an assumption)
if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out, but if it does i'd say we could probably save actions right?

there's a lot more kings than just those, maybe khan could be convinced for it if he sees it as a way to prevent future shenanigans/he believes oppressing them would mess with his survival of the fittest philosophy, or Bellwether to divert attention from predator issues? Shego/Drakken may have a vested interest due to what they've got up to involving drossel too. these are all longshots, but there's a chance of it happening right? if they want something in exchange for lobbying themselves, it's a price that could probably be paid, but hard to say there.
It's not about preventing factions from seeing what we are doing. Though mitigating that is a good thing. It is about preventing factions from being able to steal our stuff. Stealing technology is a lot harder without infiltration than it is with it. Besides, we last conducted a security sweep about a year prior in-game.

Why would it be mean? The lobbying action told us that there will be a lot of opposition to AI rights. Testing the temperature is described as telling us what people think, not convincing people to our side. Further, artificial intelligence is ancillary to Bellwether's goals and Khan isn't invested in robotics. I doubt he would care to support AI rights anyways, considering how 'nonsensical' the process of AI gaining intelligence is anyway. Shego is too lazy to do anything, and I do not think that meeting Drossel would inspire most people to support AI rights. The most we can expect out of people is apathy. Sapient AI is not a thing the majority of people have access to right now. And that is what gives us a chance to pass AI rights. The longer we wait, the more we risk interests getting entrenched against us.

I'm sorta curious what this implies. Four...The most proximate association between Negsy and that number is that Fearsome Five renamed to the Fearsome Four after his disappearance in the comics, but um...No way this is gonna be that easy....
The number four is associated with death in a lot of east Asian cultures. Gridlocked United States is dominated by anime and the like, so it could be a reference to that. Death would fit Negaduck, even on a successful attack.
 
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We can't really estabelish ties with CAIA right now until Russ be in a better mental state, so even if drilled Russ for information we will not be able to do something about it.
hmm, interesting point
i don't think their headspace will stop us from grilling him, if anything him being off-kilter would make it easier (if a bit meaner) but it might prevent future actions along that line/recontextualise the results (easier for pure information, but if it's taking advantage of him it might cause minor opinion issues/if it fails it could fail worse than normal)

mostly suggesting it as an action because tons of people want to bossman chat him (which i think is a bad move since we just did one last turn), so wheedling him would be an alternative option
So I think humanize CJ should be a better option than ask Russ anything at least this turn since we will need either wait unitl november to get rid of his debuff or make him attend therapy with Technor and hope he has a breakthrough.
if more people are fine with it humanising CJ could work out, but i seriously don't want to replace actions that boost stats, so out of all of the options, it might be the one that can wait the most? what probably really matters is doing it before we do the digital quest (so as to let her be relevant *in* the quest and boost the potential rewards there. do you think if we pick it on the same turn as we go on the digital quest there'll still be synergy? would bind the two closer together, but mean less time for her to develop...

wait, do you think there might also be synergy between taking a time management course and speaking to people who handle management (mostly mirage/CJ)? that could be big, even if i was thinking of spending a bossman chat socialising with janus (to stack that with janus socialising themselves) over mirage

we last conducted a security sweep about a year prior in-game.
huh, could have sworn it was less than that. doing it at least once a year is definitely fair, so long as we mix things up to stay unpredictable
Why would it be mean?
my thoughts on check the temperature are that if it doesn't give us anything (unlock more options) it would be sort of a trap option? if it does give something new to do to promote AI rights it's definitely worthwhile, but if it doesn't it isn't, so i wanted to take the risk

i'm definitely for starting lobbying along now rather than later though, do you think it would be best to start a corporate action to get a +50/turn regardless of what we do, even with other diplomacy/corporate actions?

maybe both DC reducing actions, and hope support comes to us/lobbies themselves on their own?
 
wait, do you think there might also be synergy between taking a time management course and speaking to people who handle management (mostly mirage/CJ)? that could be big, even if i was thinking of spending a bossman chat socialising with janus (to stack that with janus socialising themselves) over mirage

I guess.

I think QM said that CJ is already a thinking person, it's just that Heinz have not caught on to that fact yet since we are not really spending time with her to discover this fact.

Also we really should spend some time with her before doing the Quest since the MCP has a ever watchful eyes to anyone that seeks to breach the cyberspace and he will definitly notice Heinz intrusion. Besides Heinz accept Norm as a son and to keep the ball rolling so we should start spending time with CJ since it will be very hypoceital of him accepting Norm but not CJ.

This is a quest that Heinz should take personally in my opinion since he will probably will be able to have a face to face talk with CJ and Russ as well so that the goverment can become aware about the threat of the MCP.
 
wait, here's a thought @Soberan 123 !
this turn for personals we can wheedle russ, chat with janus, take a time management course and work on our power armor
next turn we can chat with CJ, chat with mirage, take the second time management course and do a fourth thing depending on what's needed (maybe malf, responding to a change in situation, or something new that unlocks?)

this gets high priority stuff this turn (russ/power armor) while building a relationship with janus (who's a councilor and someone with which it's important they don't hate everyone) and working on stat development, and next turn we can get the payoff for a stewardship boost (that probably doesn't count towards our stat caps), along with getting the synergy of talking to the people who were previously handling that for us at the same time (which we want to do anyhow, giving us a 4/5th bossman chat with our councilors and CJ's development).

might be putting it off, but if the turn after the one coming up soon is still negaduck themed (with the bulk of the attack/aftereffects) we'd probably need to hold off on the digital world anyhow, and the MCP really shouldn't immediately screw us over big time. if he acts blatantly that's going to provoke other kings who'd be keeping an eye on the company even if they don't know of his existence, and slow and steady works for him anyhow. he's dominating the market, we probably don't currently represent a big enough threat to force drastic action when he's winning-as is?
seems a good mix of short/long term to me, and the actions slot together pretty well too? stat boost actions have been around for a while and have the ability to boost many nationals so they're really worthwhile, it's good to get a working relaitonship with our councilors and people want to work on it anyhow, and this still gives us valuable actions that can be done and gone like boosting our personal combat rolls and progressing russ's/the digital situation

as for these...
CJ is already a thinking person
MCP has a ever watchful eyes
Heinz should take personally
IIRC there's previously been issues with developing her as a character and she seems pretty lifelike, but that's mostly a symptom of having good language processing software and working within her specialty right?
luckily, chatting to her should hep us deal with the disadvantages there and as i've mentioned previously we might be able to slot it in?

presumably the "let's get digital" quest occurs primarily within our territory in cyberspace where the MCP doesn't have feelers
there are differences between CJ and norm, at the very least we're not mistreating CJ by actively refusing to treat her like a person and she hasn't developed enough to want that (which is a good thing)

and lastly putting doof on the quest is an option for giving him more development and adding russ seems like a good call to get the government informed about stuff too, though we'll have to see when we're actually chosing who to send. doof going along would detract from alan being able to do stuff (this quest will be big for them) and we might want to keep it secret from Russ (if we're being selfish and want to keep digital stuff as an edge they don't have access to)
 
my thoughts on check the temperature are that if it doesn't give us anything (unlock more options) it would be sort of a trap option? if it does give something new to do to promote AI rights it's definitely worthwhile, but if it doesn't it isn't, so i wanted to take the risk

i'm definitely for starting lobbying along now rather than later though, do you think it would be best to start a corporate action to get a +50/turn regardless of what we do, even with other diplomacy/corporate actions?

maybe both DC reducing actions, and hope support comes to us/lobbies themselves on their own?
The stated purpose of the action is to find out what people think about the topic and if they are going to side one way or another. It warns that it will tell Kings that DEI is interested in the field. I don't think the action has much, if any value. I can sort of see it being useful for some issues. Though I'm not sure what sort of issues that would be. But that isn't a trap option.

We already know how the majority of corporations will react to this: they will oppose it. The fact that DEI is the only faction with hard AI will mitigate resistance. Giving people more time to discover hard AI will make resistance mount further. Whether we do the corporate action depends on the cost of the companies and actions we do. I prefer to do it, but I am anticipating that we will delay it.
 
this turn for personals we can wheedle russ, chat with janus, take a time management course and work on our power armor
next turn we can chat with CJ, chat with mirage, take the second time management course and do a fourth thing depending on what's needed (maybe malf, responding to a change in situation, or something new that unlocks?)

I tjink is better to wait on Russ stuff since ot's possible the only thing we can do with CAIA is seeding with spies and this sounds too mean now since Russ is trusting with us about his work.

We also need to chat with Alan and Wendy since both are too stressed in they reapective stories with LEGACY and Yokai through Trevor, specially since the latter will not forgive the Yolai for kidnapping the AI she was working with Trevor.
 
I tjink is better to wait on Russ stuff since ot's possible the only thing we can do with CAIA is seeding with spies and this sounds too mean now since Russ is trusting with us about his work.
I mean, whatever we do with Russ depends pretty heavily on what options we have surrounding Mercurial this turn or not. The bigger issue is we are on a deadline with the Dream Queen stuff due to the choices picked by the thread to accelerate it. We fundamentally cannot wait on doing Russ' end of things.
 
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