Something that could be interesting for our learning options next turn is to have the QMS do the esoteric transportation collab with Bakaemono, and have Wasabi work on the ODI. A scientific and magic portal research for our two learning actions. I bet that is the method by which we could reduce the cost of using the ODI, and could allow us to expand to other dimensions at a much larger scale. Plus, this gives Jumba opportunity to do another personal action finally as a follow up to his retreat one.
I can confirm this would not end up reducing the cost. The cost of ODI is not in creating the portal, you have the technology and just haven't built it yet. The cost comes from powering the thing, as well as obtaining resources suitable for an interdimensional expedition for weeks on end, possibly into places with no infrastructure. Incidentally, this is the same reason why activating the digitizer will incur a cost as well.
 
[] Plan I can't think of a name, this is just an example
-[] (Khan) Study history
-[] (Monogram) Take an acrobatics course
-[] (Norm) Commit Heroism
-[] (Dennis) Train with Maui Mallard
-[] (Janna) Study magic with Feldrake
-[] (Jumba) Finish incubating Subject T.K.
-[] (Lizzy) Build backup tunnels
-[] (Tobe) Train with Maui Mallard
-[] (Kitsune) Check in with Janna
-[] (Alan) Work with ???
-[] (Cruella) Make an Exotic Coat
-[] (Kermit) Look for the Muppets
-[] (QMS) Practice Theatrics
I like this plan, let me give it a name for you.

[] Plan: Glitz, Glamour, and Glory
-[] (Khan) Study history
-[] (Monogram) Take an acrobatics course
-[] (Norm) Commit Heroism
-[] (Dennis) Train with Maui Mallard
-[] (Janna) Study magic with Feldrake
-[] (Jumba) Finish incubating Subject T.K.
-[] (Lizzy) Build backup tunnels
-[] (Tobe) Train with Maui Mallard
-[] (Kitsune) Check in with Janna
-[] (Alan) Work with ???
-[] (Cruella) Make an Exotic Coat
-[] (Kermit) Look for the Muppets
-[] (QMS) Practice Theatrics
 
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Admittedly, Id by far rather get nothing personally than push a very dangerous monster into changing up their plan and cascade this problem out into screwing everyone else over as well.
 
But wouldn't gaining all the powers of hell make her a mage?

We don't even know if she'd be gaining all the powers of hell. We just know that the powers of hell are somehow involved.

Could be a new trait. Could be the book becomes an assignable item like Feldrake that gives a stat boost. No knowledge either way.

Besides, there's a chance on that to summon the Sandersons back again and we uh don't need them right now.
 
We don't even know if she'd be gaining all the powers of hell. We just know that the powers of hell are somehow involved.

Could be a new trait. Could be the book becomes an assignable item like Feldrake that gives a stat boost. No knowledge either way.

Besides, there's a chance on that to summon the Sandersons back again and we uh don't need them right now.
None of the options are red, so I don't think this is a risk. The worst options are orange, which tends to mean a downside and an upside. And the best reward, at 40% chance, is Blue. Meaning a significant improvement right at the time we could use one, the last blue action we succeeded at gave Kitsune +1 across the board, plus loyalty.
 
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[ ] Unplanned: Russ returns, unable to find what you need. No information gained. Action DC reduced by half. Time is running out.

THIS WOULD LEAVE US BLIND WITH NO INFORMATION AND VERY LIKELY NO OPPORTUNITY TO TRY INVESTIGATING AGAIN. DO NOT PICK.
First, I wouldn't say very likely. We'd investigate again, and there's a chance that it's too late, yes. But on the other hand, we can still do normal prep, like we were initially considering, and that means we don't have to pick either of the other two options.
 
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Admittedly, Id by far rather get nothing personally than push a very dangerous monster into changing up their plan and cascade this problem out into screwing everyone else over as well.

Precisely.

This is not a Doof problem.

It is a Doof and Xanatos and Glomgold and Doom problem.

And while we don't give a shit about Doom, we care a bit about the opinions of Xanatos and Glomgold, not to mention the innocents that may get caught in the crossfire.

We don't know the extent of Negaduck's "creativity", but based on the wording it is going to be applied to non-Doof factions, orange text tends to suggest the possibility of serious consequences and that may enrage a whole lot of third parties. Case in point, if Negaduck getting creative costs Glomgold serious money, I can see the dino-deal going away, because Glomgold is monumentally spiteful at times.
 
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Just to check, does not picking Unplanned means Russ does in fact return with information? Because that's not what I'd surmised.
 
Just to check, does not picking Unplanned means Russ does in fact return with information? Because that's not what I'd surmised.
I was hoping this would give us more info about what our choices mean and it didn't.

Precisely.

This is not a Doof problem.

It is a Doof and Xanatos and Glomgold and Doom problem.

And while we don't give a shit about Doom, we care a bit about the opinions of Xanatos and Glomgold, not to mention the innocents that may get caught in the crossfire.

We don't know the extent of Negaduck's "creativity", but based on the wording it is going to be applied to non-Doof factions, orange text tends to suggest the possibility of serious consequences and that may enrage a whole lot of third parties. Case in point, if Negaduck getting creative costs Glomgold serious money, I can see the dino-deal going away, because Glomgold is monumentally spiteful at times.
Yep. Plus, if the new Negaduck stuff works the same as the action we just did IE more over the DC means more info, we could get quite a lot from it...The downside being, we'd have no time to prep. It would probably give us a lot of circumstance bonuses during the crisis, but, in prep, we'd still be flying blind, and would just have to take all the prep actions, just in case.
 
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Just to check, does not picking Unplanned means Russ does in fact return with information? Because that's not what I'd surmised.
I mean if the malus of picking Unplanned is that we get no info it would be logical that not picking it gives info, after all if it wasn't the case what even is the point of Unplanned as a malus since I don't think the QM would add a bait "this happens either way" option to the malus to grab
 
Just to check, does not picking Unplanned means Russ does in fact return with information? Because that's not what I'd surmised.

Investigating Negaduck's plan was an action with multiple levels of success. I assume that a bare success would have given us an outline, with better degrees of success giving more and more info. Alternatively, bare success would have given us info about the Doofania attack, but not much about the broader plan without reaching the higher thresholds.
 
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Yes, that's implied. It was a bare failure, after all. Unplanned would be the default, and we're getting the choice to get the info in exchange for being screwed over in other ways.
And, because it's Negaduck, we don't just get unplanned, as we would on a normal bare failure, we also get Russ getting his face kicked in somehow. Frankly, I have very little idea what the idea is here.
 
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It was a bare failure with a fallback failure. I would be surprised if that combination of results lead to a success, even at a cost.
 
And, because it's Negaduck, we don't just get unplanned, as we would on a normal bare failure, we also get Russ getting his face kicked in somehow. Frankly, I have very little idea what the idea is here.

The temptation is attempting to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

The QMs are dangling a shiny win in front of us that happens to have an obscured price tag. We know that it is going to cost us, but people are trying to convince themselves that it is going to be worth it because the win is really that shiny.

Personally, I think that the right move here is to take our lumps and go blind into the crisis without making things worse for the other players in the table or calling in major Occult trouble that we are not yet ready to tangle with.
 
The temptation is attempting to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

The QMs are dangling a shiny win in front of us that happens to have an obscured price tag. We know that it is going to cost us, but people are trying to convince themselves that it is going to be worth it because the win is really that shiny.

Personally, I think that the right move here is to take our lumps and go blind into the crisis without making things worse for the other players in the table.
OK, dude, don't act like you have some sorta special insight into the QMs we don't, you're sounding a bit condescing. That said, I get your point, and lowering the DC means more info when we do it next turn, which, even if it can't help our prep, WOULD probably give us some juicy circumstance bonuses...Hm...

It was a bare failure with a fallback failure. I would be surprised if that combination of results lead to a success, even at a cost.
I think the implication was that, normally, we would just get the Unplanned. But, since we our time is VERY limited, the QMs are giving us the option to opt out, at...Some unclear cost.
 
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I think that I am candid enough about the many, many times in which I've called things wrong to make it clear that I have no particular insight into QM plans, so... apologies if the post comes across as condescending?
Thank you. I'm sorry for the acustation, just a bit irritating is all. I get your point, and we can totally do prep and still do the investigation, in hopes that whatever treasure trove we get will be useful enough to at least grant us some useful bonuses during the Crisis itself...But it would mean having to devote the entirety of next turn to prep that may end up wasted...Normally, i'd go off the color coding and go Dream Queen, but...Yellow in this game could also mean...HIM, and we don't want to get anywhere close to HIM, so...Hm.

(Speaking of which, we really need to stop being scared and investigate Oregon at some point. Bill's a ticking clock and, while it's clear there are a LOT of ticks left, I don't like having him just waiting up in Oregon...)
 
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