This makes me very sad for some reason. Also people were right, demona was the one who plans to lift the veil, and has a chilf and all that jazz.
If I were to guess, the fact that Star physical has to stop herself from a past battle habit is indicative of her need to hide. She cannot draw attention to herself. She cannot say or do things that the 'old,' Star did because that would be too distinctive for a girl on the run with a stolen borrowed trench coat. Thus, Star Butterfly must hide her true personality especially if it makes her unhappy; else, Toffee shows up with people.
 
Well she no where near as powerful or strong but she is immortal as well. Well there are a few things that can kill her, Macbeth and anything a lot stronger then the Wierd Sisters. You would have to override their spell to kill her another way. Still the old throw them into the Sun works great on her, or stick her in a place she can't get out. She isn't a superpowered gargoyle.
 
If I were to guess, the fact that Star physical has to stop herself from a past battle habit is indicative of her need to hide. She cannot draw attention to herself. She cannot say or do things that the 'old,' Star did because that would be too distinctive for a girl on the run with a stolen borrowed trench coat. Thus, Star Butterfly must hide her true personality especially if it makes her unhappy; else, Toffee shows up with people.
Also the fact that Toffee really messed up magic.
 
Demona, the best way to put it is.... shes one of a maybe thousand Jews left in a world where 9 times out of 10 people who find out about her race exist say Hitler did nothing wrong or say that there just mindless animals who need to be put down
 
Well...it's nice that we got a quick look at Star, but Demona's also clearly up to something. A staff with markings indicating where something need to.be placed...ugh, too generic to serve any use for identifying it.

If I understood correctly it was a staff that telescoped arbitrarily far out and no selled a chainaxe.

Going to tentatively bet it miiiiight be Sun Wu Kong's staff?

Don't know why Demona would want that, but it's the first thing that comes to mind.
 
good news! Star is live! And so is the lady from Gargoyles!

Seems like the failure point for the Star Vs series was probably season 2 when Toffee wins. Star has not only lost the wand, but the mewnian plane's magic is fully under Toffee's control now so she cannot even use her "natural" mewman powers.

with the important note that mewmans are human descended and only their female royalty have, for lack of a better term "mutated" due to the magic of Mewni's plane. The ruling queens of Mewni are literally transhuman magical multi-armed winged butterfly sorceresses while everyone else is within normal human bounds.

It's an open question of where Marco got his pair of scissors. I think Heckapoo is a viable candidate, especially if Toffee later smacked around the council of mewnian magic. Her scissors would at least be going to a good cause before she suffered Toffee's judgement.
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Demona is the architect of her own worst torments, usually by trying to accomplish things. Like a Shakespearian tragic "hero" that, through a combination of immortality and a stubborn refusal to learn, ever escalates her own frustrations and pains by doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on her doomed quest to avenge herself on humanity.

If the authors are going for maximum schadenfreude the scheme Demona has concocted will be to curse New York with "The Stone Curse" so that they are literally the city that never sleeps. That sounds like a memetic-powered magic that could really give them comeuppance.
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Star seems, like Star. Well written dear QM's. I expect her next stop to be convenient for us. She already stopped by Danville, and I think it'd be an excellent meme for her to go to Middleton and hide in the best-secret-establishment in the entire city. Bueno Nacho.
Everyone spends two months looking for Star, fail, and meet up at Bueno Nacho to grouse only to hear someone retching uncontrollably after actually ordering something off the menu. It would even successfully weave comedic beats into the dramatic moment. 10/10 idea, Bueno Nacho should be the most mysterious overlooked place in the United States!
 
A staff....?

well it's not the stone spell. Nor is it the plague neither required a staff Iirc.

Also that's strange. Angela is here so clearly the Avalon arc happened and the good guys won and made it back to New York.Goliath is out of the picture like we all assumed but Hudson is in charge not Brooklyn whom was Goliath's second.

this raises a lot of questions.

also damn it Demona couldn't you have waited 2 weeks or so? Now who knows where Star is going to go next.
 
If the authors are going for maximum schadenfreude the scheme Demona has concocted will be to curse New York with "The Stone Curse" so that they are literally the city that never sleeps. That sounds like a memetic-powered magic that could really give them comeuppance.
Well, it looks like we're late enough in the timeline that she probably already did that one, since Angela is in New York and she didn't show up until after the Stone Curse on NYC was broken. Just as well, City of Stone was dark. Demona cursed everyone in New York City to have an inverse Gargoyle stone sleep-- they turned into statues at night instead of the day. Then she went around at night having fun with a mace. The people whose heads she caved in were the lucky ones. One woman she broke the arms off of and left her there. And damage to the statue did not seem to be repaired when they turned back into flesh the next day.

I assume she had some plan to eventually get lots of humans at once and was just taking time enjoying herself the first two nights, since killing everyone in New York by hand would take too long.
 
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Hmmm. Well
Seems like the failure point for the Star Vs series was probably season 2
which is awesome because it's fixable. And also handily prevents the canon ending to the show which was somehow even worse than what's happened in the quest.

But let's not talk about that and instead be happy Stars alive and kicking (yay)

But sad she's living on the streets away from her friends without magic (boo)

But we'll probably be able to find and help her eventually (yay)

Etc.
 
She's Immortal and can only die when killed by Macbeth.

Or some powerful magic...it depends.
Which just goes to show how terrifyingly powerful Puck is. Especially since immortality is a mid tier work he could recover from casting with a lazy Sunday afternoon.
Point of order, I've never read Shakespeare. Is Macbeth an ordinary human?
An ordinary human with an obscene amount of experience and tricks up his sleeve. He is an old man but he can fight Goliath on fairly equal terms and he has holdings with collective wealth in the billions.

Human beings are terrifying when you give them enough years of conflict. So he is about on par with most of the lower-tier Illuminati, though he was probably too volatile to get entry I'm sure.
Well, it looks like we're late enough in the timeline that she probably already did that one, since Angela is in New York and she didn't show up until after the Stone Curse on NYC was broken. Just as well, City of Stone was dark. Demona cursed everyone in New York City to have an inverse Gargoyle stone sleep-- they turned into statues at night instead of the day. Then she went around at night having fun with a mace. The people whose heads she caved in were the lucky ones. One woman she broke the arms off of and left her there. And damage to the statue did not seem to be repaired when they turned back into flesh the next day.

I assume she had some plan to eventually get lots of humans at once and was just taking time enjoying herself the first two nights, since killing everyone in New York by hand would take too long.
That depends on what Avalon looks like. Oberon might have cast out everyone there on his own regardless of the timeline. Angela was conceived before the English language was recognizable.
 
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It's an open question of where Marco got his pair of scissors. I think Heckapoo is a viable candidate, especially if Toffee later smacked around the council of mewnian magic. Her scissors would at least be going to a good cause before she suffered Toffee's judgement.
He earned a pair in canon. Before Toffee Balooned the magic council. He can just use those?
 
You guys could probably figure out what Demona's plan is at this point, but only if you're very familiar with both the right period in history, the media in question, and the sort of literary reference that Gargoyles loves to do.
 
You guys could probably figure out what Demona's plan is at this point, but only if you're very familiar with both the right period in history, the media in question, and the sort of literary reference that Gargoyles loves to do.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the last one is to Shakespearian plays, or at least tragedies
 
The worst tging about demona is shes capable of being a Xantos Level Player, but lacks the few morals he has, and seems incapable of growth, only self increased corruption
 
For those wondering about Demona


Replace "Hannibal" with "Her own hopes and dreams" and then she blames the human race at large

She's a "Princess" of New York. Which would make her a King of a less crowded region, but her major flaw is that she is incredibly self-defeating. Her schemes devour her own goals and then she blames humans for the damage caused.

I think Toffee would think her interesting, but ultimately she just isn't effective at what she does. Toffee went up against an aristocracy that had taken the entire plane's magic into their actual bloodline, and schemed it into the downfall of the mewman race in like. A year or two of active face-showing work on his part. Sure, it took a lot longer than that to set up, but the actual execution was relatively swift. A pawn takes knight, and a princess sacrifices for it, and the queen is exposed, and the king falls in the span of a few months.

Demona has been around trying to break things for (depending on time travel shenanigans) five hundred years or more. And we're hardly dented by any schemes that she has enacted. We've done more self-damage than anything else.
 
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I will say a good portion of that self defeating prophecy was extended thanks to the Archmage convincing the triplets to make her and macbeth their minions which lead to them being tied together. Demona was well on her way to dying of old age even for her race before that happened.
 
God I love these. 500xp tracked. More please.
reading those again made me crack up Again!
Star charged forward, years of training in Johansen war parties with… with someone coming back to her and guiding her strike. The gargoyle was fast though, dodging out of the way of the swing and forcing Star to tumble to avoid being open to a counterattack.
Wait a minute??!!! when was this?!
Star sighed. She was just beginning to like this city too. She wasn't even going to be able to stay until Christmas. She was really looking forward to being with a friend during a winter holiday which didn't center around homicidal dead plants. Oh well. Another day, another city's dumpster habits to learn.

"Yeah. I thought so."
Christmas!!! that seems important. What with the Janna interlude being the Christmas party!!!!! Possible Connection! maybe! Hopefully!
You guys could probably figure out what Demona's plan is at this point, but only if you're very familiar with both the right period in history, the media in question, and the sort of literary reference that Gargoyles loves to do.
F* Somebody Hit the Shakespeare alert!
 
So, the Shakespeare play Twelfth Night is a rom-com about twins who are separated in a shipwreck, involving cross-dressing romance mishaps, some identification mishaps, and crushes while pretending to be someone else. It honestly doesn't seem that much like something an evil plot could be made out of.
 
I dunno if it's gonna be shakespeare in specific or just English folklore in general, guys. King Arthur exists in Gargoyles, and Shakespeare never touched that one, IIRC.
 
Okay, wild idea: Rehabilitate Inquinator.

I know this has been brought up and shot down before, but considering new data, it might be worth it to reconsider? We still have him around somewhere, haven't gotten rid of him or anything.
Yeah, I for one suggested it a while back.
It is obvious that the only way to cure Inquinator of his obsession with filth and earn his Undying Loyalty™ is to resolve his childhood trauma in the best way possible.

We have a teddy bear to track down and reunite with its owner. This will earn us a hero unit and decisively prove that our way of dealing with troublesome toons is superior to Judge Doom's.
I'm still convinced that the beloved childhood Teddy Bear is the key to recruiting him.
 
Also that's strange. Angela is here so clearly the Avalon arc happened and the good guys won and made it back to New York.Goliath is out of the picture like we all assumed but Hudson is in charge not Brooklyn whom was Goliath's second.

this raises a lot of questions.

Really hoping Brooklyn is alive. He was fairly new at the second in command position, so Hudson may have stepped up after the death of Goliath to take on the role of his mentor/temporary leader.

Which reminds me, they call Banshee child of Titania, and given the nature of that name, its possible that Oberon is dead as well. Maybe Titania staged a coup, maybe Fox sacrificed herself to stop him from taking her son, or something else is at work, but Oberon is no longer the ruler of the Fae.
 
Really hoping Brooklyn is alive. He was fairly new at the second in command position, so Hudson may have stepped up after the death of Goliath to take on the role of his mentor/temporary leader.

Which reminds me, they call Banshee child of Titania, and given the nature of that name, its possible that Oberon is dead as well. Maybe Titania staged a coup, maybe Fox sacrificed herself to stop him from taking her son, or something else is at work, but Oberon is no longer the ruler of the Fae.

it's been years since whatever happened. If Hudson is in charge Brooklyn is probably no longer around.

I think the two names can be used interchangeably
 
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