DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
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Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
Yeah, Doof has a mechanism for disabling all traps in his office, I figured we'd just implement that city-wide, and only activate the trap-hellscape in case of invasion. Toons are still likely to trigger them, as Coyote proved, but they're toons so.
Technor and Lizzy have not murdered anyone. The Fearsome Five are not called the Fearsome Five because they are small time criminals or super villains. They were the lieutenants of Negaduck and survived the bloodshed of St. Canard.
This is like comparing gasoline to napalm and thermite, try again.
Lord Ultimus
Beautiful...
- Location
- Undisclosed Warehouse
Especially now that we can recruit Miss Megawatt, who does the same thing and is much more stable.
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The point was that if we got Megavolt on the Gacha that he isn't an absolute disaster that would make all of our units dislike us or something like that.
I really hope we get an option to trap our city, it seems like something really cool and IC for Doof to do.
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
It doesn't matter. As long as we have plausible deniability that he doesn't work for us, he could work for us. The known criminals are the ones visibly working in our corporate office building, along with two aliens and a magical fox. Nobody says anything.
If we wanted to hire a know murderer, just give them their own office away from our building and ban them from going into the DEI building and presto, nobody will ever tie them to us no matter how obvious the connection is.
Yes it does matter, because the Fearsome Five terrify the public much more than the supervillains and aliens ever will. Kitsune has kept herself concealed, so that is not an effective argument.
The issue is that Doom will notice that once he gets his Intrigue back together. People are going to notice a member of the Fearsome Five acting in Doofania and that word is going to spread. Also, that does not negate the fact that we risk several of our hero units getting upset at us for hiring him.
Again, this is gasoline compared to thermite and napalm. You aren't thinking about what exactly the Fearsome Five represent.
Olivebirdy
mook.
Sure, I'll drop it. If it makes you less uncomfortable, I would only make this argument in fiction, as PoV doesn't matter as much in the real world.
Yes, I'm saying that Megavolt wouldn't be an utter disaster, not that he'd be a wise hire.
But here's the ways that he's better than Ms. Megavolt:
- High Learning, good for heroball/quests.
- Interesting narrative. Doof is a much lighter tone than Megavolt is currently at, and Megavolt was made to be a lighter tone than he is. Doofenshmirtz and Megavolt are on different sides of the 'dark, bloody and gritty' divide, and I think Megavolt is redeemable. Dr. Doofenshmirtz changing a dark villain to better fit our lighter nature is a story I want to see, I want to see if we can change the supers' world more towards our zany end of the spectrum.
- Better narrative means better synergy in a heroball. (I think.) Ms. Megavolt would help Technor, sure. But it's not the same as 'You're one of the only people I trust here at DEI, Technor, so when you tell me that humans aren't that bad, I might listen to you.' It's a deeper connection.
weredrago2
"Cowabunga, Shadow the Hedgehog..."
- Location
- Florida
Its Megavolt and Ms. Megawatt. They do not have the same name. These debates are confusing enough as it is without giving people the same name.
- Location
- Germany
Seriously, why are you so damn insistent on hiring a guy that will be more trouble than he´ll be worth and who (regardless of whether he *wants* to kill people) doesn´t give a shit about anyone caught in the crossfire of his "household appliances liberation campaign". He is completly delusional and has caused the demise of multiple people - whether that counts as "merely" manslaughter or outright murder is a distinction only the judges and prison shrinks will care about in the end.
Additionally, Doof simply isn´t the kind of villain who employs nutjobs like Megavolt for his dirty work and doesn´t care about the fallout - he is a guy who (in his own twisted way) wants only to be loved and to help people.
Hiring one of the Fearsome Friggin Five doesn´t fit Doof at all.
ExNihilo
SPACE!
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I suppose that implies the existence of a Mx. Megaamp somewhere? That's how this works, right?
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
Kitsune keeps herself concealed if and when she wants to. The last time Quackerjack of the Fearsome Five appeared, he was in Doom's city, the public there did not riot. QM will not punish us for rolling randomly in the gacha and even if he did, Megawatt is actually insane and deserves psychiatric help. Rehabilitating him with work-release prison and regular therapy is the heroic thing to do.
I'm tempted to say impolite things about how abrasive you always are, but will content myself with politely asking you to stop catastrophizing anything you don't like.
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- Location
- The City of Tears, Hallownest
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- He/Him
Megajoule prefers They-Them pronouns. and also delicious snack cakes.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Can we please cut back on the use of salty, aggressively terminology:
"Joe was terrified about what would happen if we do X," "The thread is irrationally afraid of X," and so on, are, and repeat after me:
Just Fucking Insulting, For No Good Reaosn
So can we just please cut it out?
"Joe was terrified about what would happen if we do X," "The thread is irrationally afraid of X," and so on, are, and repeat after me:
Just Fucking Insulting, For No Good Reaosn
So can we just please cut it out?
It's not about us choosing to hire him, but that if we, somehow rolled him in the gacha (1.67% chances of it) it wouldn't literally be the end of the world.
- Location
- Germany
And once more you are being the Voice of Reason...thanks, Simon
Kitsune knows to keep the Masquerade presence. She has survived five centuries by staying hidden. The public did not riot in LA with Quackerjack's appearance because Doom wasn't the one actually *employing* him! The reason why the Gacha is available is because it can hurt us, otherwise it would have been far too overpowered. I am aware that Megavolt is insane and deserves help. DEI is just not in a position where it can do that.
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
I don't. Want to hire him, that is. If you said, "Hey, Lab, let's use a Recruit from Rolodex Action to recruit Megawatt!", I'd be like: "Say WHAT? Heck no! We have tons of better options!"
What I want is to not limit our recruitment options on the minimal off-chance that we might roll Megawatt, or even Quackerjack, if QM was feeling sadistic and wanted to punish us.
Basically, what they said.
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Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
- Location
- Central Park
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
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The chances of recruiting Megavolt are 1.66%.
1.66% is, more or less, the chances that we've to roll a nat 1 in any action. So worrying about getting Megavolt would be the same as worrying that Roddy (who auto success at it) would fail to build the Dinosaur Park and turn it into a Jurassic Park.
I am aware, I would just prefer to not touch it regardless. There are still several other heroes that really don't mesh well with DEI and quite a few more that would contribute to hero bloat.
This argument has been about Megavolt in particular, I am willing to expand it to include the other maluses to taking the action.
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Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
Okay, but Hero bloat isn't really that much of a problem, as too many people doing actions can only be good. Even if it does become a problem, there's an in-built solution of making Heroballs out of our undesirables and having them run low-risk, low-priority assignments like we do with Tobe and Lovemuffin.
Of course it is a problem. When a fair amount of the heroes are just there it doesn't contribute all that much. More heroes will lengthen the time it takes to get the turns and results and to quote QTesseract, they will take up narrative space.
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- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I don't think ANYONE discussing ANY of these issues (Flubber, hiring Megavolt, et cetera) seriously thinks that it would "literally be the end of the world" or "bad end to the quest" or whatever.
We're not talking about walking into the Oregon Triangle, bowing down, and saying "my mind is open, do with me as you will." OK? We all know that.
But there are still problems we'd rather not have to deal with, shit we'd rather not have to handle. Some of it could be pretty fucking serious.
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
- Location
- Central Park
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
But we need more Capes to get our first Heroball, and More heroes for the other two heroballs we started. unless we can have Partial heroballs?
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