I am extremely curious why you think it is a good thing for us to hire indiscriminate murderers, especially Toonish ones. When those nuts murder under the employ of DEI, how do you think Doom is going to frame it?

Hell, Russ would absolutely hate us for hiring them. They are completely off tune from the narrative we have for heroes currently and would actively sabotage my enjoyment of the quest.

Well, if nothing else, Mirage recruiting them would mean that none of the questers would be stupid enough to use the gacha again, so I guess there are benefits.
For black ops maybe? If they get caught, we deny any and all responsibility.
 
For black ops maybe? If they get caught, we deny any and all responsibility.
Except the Federal Government knows that we hired them and the liaison between us and them really doesn't like us because we're dealing with the type of villain that he absolutely hates with every ounce in his body.

Also, that would still give Doom plenty of reason to attack us anyways. 'Of course DEI would deny hiring a murderous Toon, they're pro-Toon! You know, it's strange how the only real pro-toon megacorporation hired murderous toons. There might just be a connection there.' :thonk:

Or something along those lines, Doom would absolutely take advantage of that to cause the reputation of toons to further plummet.
 
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Except the Federal Government knows that we hired them and the liaison between us and them really doesn't like us because we're dealing with the type of villain that he absolutely hates with every ounce in his body.
Hate to bring it up, but their murdousness is kinda unclear. Hell, at least one of them ACTUALLY REDEEMED in the comics.
 
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Hate to bring it up, but their murdousness is kinda unclear. Hell, at least one of them ACTUALLY REDEEMED in the comics.
MiH has directly stated that each member of the Fearsome Five has a bodycount.

Discord said:
MrHobbit1234: I'm pretty sure all of the Fearsome Five have a body count
C-Moon: They do.
Also this:

Discord Again said:
C-Moon: A friendly reminder that all of the Fearsome Five have body counts.
 
Remember ladies and gents! We at DEI do not condone actual murderous villains. Even as a black-ops team. Russ would still know. The government would still know.
Maybe we should get Russ' input on our potential hires? He probably knows more about them than we do and we'd get an idea of the minimum acceptable level of conformality to conventional morality that we can get away with hiring.
 
We can dispose unneeded heroes by sending them on revamping Bueno Nacho. They would not survive extreme crit fail.
I think this is a joke. Because if this isn't a joke, you're proposing that we spend a national action to piss off psychopathic murderous Toons who would be quite willing to murder us. All the while, we would still have to deal with significant Loyalty maluses from our good heroes (Goofy, Russ, ect ect).

In Canon the only one of the Fearsome Five with a *confirmed* bodycount just so happens to be Dr. Reginald Bushroot, the arguably most affable of the five.
This is DoofQuest and I was directly quoting the QM, also from weredrago2:

Discord said:
oh and yes, they killed more in DQ
They've killed more people while imprisoned in St. Canard. That was just weredrago2 backing up C-Moon's statement. But it is still fairly likely that they killed people in St. Canard.
 
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I am extremely curious why you think it is a good thing for us to hire indiscriminate murderers, especially Toonish ones. When those nuts murder under the employ of DEI, how do you think Doom is going to frame it?

Hell, Russ would absolutely hate us for hiring them. They are completely off tune from the narrative we have for heroes currently and would actively sabotage my enjoyment of the quest.

Well, if nothing else, if Mirage did recruit them, I doubt any quester would vote for the gacha again, so I guess there are benefits.

I mean, it's actually far more likely that we recruit someone we really want (like, let's say Juniper) from the Gacha that someone we'd actively don't want working for us.
 
Maybe we should get Russ' input on our potential hires? He probably knows more about them than we do and we'd get an idea of the minimum acceptable level of conformality to conventional morality that we can get away with hiring.
ACTUALLY... this isn't a bad idea. Heck, not just Russ, make it a whole inner circle thing. We get out the Rolodex, and have our top heroes comment on how viable of a hire each person would be. Sounds like a fun interlude, or at least omake. Could probably write-in as a personal action... right?
 
All the while, we would still have to deal with significant Loyalty maluses from our good heroes (Goofy, Russ, ect ect).
How certain are you that we don't have the option to turn down or fire whoever Mirage picks and that, given that lack of option, the loyalty hit wouldn't require them actually interacting? Russ was convinced we're not evil for months and we still had to talk to him to remove the malus.
 
I mean, it's actually far more likely that we recruit someone we really want (like, let's say Juniper) from the Gacha that someone we'd actively don't want working for us.
I am aware of that. The issue is that I would prefer not to ever deal with the Fearsome Five and the gacha action risks that. For better or worse, we are highly linked to the public image of Toons. Us hiring one of the FF could cause the reputation of Toons to plummet.

Hey! I was corraborating what C-Moon said about the Fearsome Five having killed people in DoofQuest. Theorize what you want, but do not put words in my mouth.
I thought when you said DoofQuest you meant, well, the part after the Disney villains won. I'll fix that.

How certain are you that we don't have the option to turn down or fire whoever Mirage picks and that, given that lack of option, the loyalty hit wouldn't require them actually interacting? Russ was convinced we're not evil for months and we still had to talk to him to remove the malus.
The option says 'recruit one random hero from the rolodex', it does not say, choice to recruit one random hero.
 
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It was relaunched under a new publisher for a while and they did a Bushroot story that slightly retconned his origin story. Though for years he was a murderer and was still a successful killer for all intents and purposes.

Yeah, I was vaguely aware of that relaunch and that one story arc that was de-canonized in the process, meaning that Morgana remained "vanished" after all.

I am also aware of Quackerjack transforming himself into a doll outta genuine care for some kind of girlfriend.
 
I am aware of that. The issue is that I would prefer not to ever deal with the Fearsome Five and the gacha action risks that. For better or worse, we are highly linked to the public image of Toons. Us hiring one of the FF could cause the reputation of Toons to plummet.

Mmm... I'm not exactly sure if that would happen. I mean, we've no idea of what Heroes other Kings hire, in the same way, Buddy (or Shego for the matter) didn't know that we recruited Mirage or that Toffee doesn't know we've recruited Janna or Khan knows we've Wasabi. So I don't think we'd take any hit to our relationships by just recruiting them since no one would know.
 
Shego's Monthly Update
Shego's Monthly Update

As you slide into the booth at Bueno Nacho, you realize that your greatest Rival is already there. It's unusually prompt of her, and as she opens her mouth to ask you a question, you realize she already knows. She knows your dark secret. How could she have found out!?

Hego. Hego must have told her!

Well, you can't really fault him for trying to keep a good relationship with his family and get his sister involved in his life. That's why you have your little Visigoth helping out around the corporation. If she wants, she'll be able to take it over one day and rule the Tri-State Area in your place. And if she wants to do something else? that's fine too. You'll just have to find a worthy successor to your evil, or maybe become immortal? Honestly Immortality seems like a pain, but who will rule the tri-state area if you're not there to rule it? Roger? Hah! He couldn't even prevent you from taking over the first time! How would he fend against Doom? Or Toffee?

Actually, does Roger even know about Magic? Vanessa does, and you assume your daughter told Charlene... Though it is odd that you haven't heard from your ex wife about the trip to New York. Charlene gives you a lot of trust in raising Vanessa with her, but she usually talks to you about major decisions, like taking your daughter on a flubber-powered flying car to a magical masquerade and then being attacked by dancing zombies...

Well, if Charlene doesn't think it's important to talk about, it probably isn't. She has a very different set of priorities and viewpoint than you do with regards to child-rearing, but given how well-adjusted and happy Vanessa is, she's usually right. Especially in contrast to how Norm turned out. Not that Norm is your son! But, you know... He's at least something you created and programmed by yourself, and he seems sentient? So he's probably at least somewhat comparable?

Shego is looking at you! You must have spaced out while she was laying down her accusations. Quick! It was time to lay out your carefully considered defense!

"I don't know what Hego Told you, but all I did was send him to explore the mid-western wasteland. And I made sure he had a flying car, and adequate support, and all the protective gear possible! Any tales you heard about Hego about fighting the drug cartel and getting super high on experimental power drugs are vile calumnies!"

Shego's eyes widened, she must be preparing to go onto the attack! You have to cut her off!

"I mean, there's no way that Hego could have fought the drug cartel, right? Because you obviously blew them out of the sky and thoroughly destroyed every one of them! So thoroughly that there weren't even any bodies left behind! So there was no way that Hego could have fought a super-powered drug dealer and then gotten punched into a pile full of Experimental power granting drugs! That couldn't have possibly happened because the drug trade can't be behind this! Because you destroyed them!"

Shego is staring at you now, but she's not contradicting your story. So she must have bought it hook, line, and sinker! Truly Janna's coaching on how to lie more effectively has paid off!

That just leaves Item two on your list to talk to Shego about. You pull out a small spiral bound note pad and consult it. Item two on the list is... the Dickens Detective Agency report? That's easy enough to summarize.

"Oh, on a totally unrelated side note, I got a report from the detective agency I hired to look into that floating drug-fueled fortress you blasted out of the sky. It was a decoy, and you didn't destroy the drug cartel after all. They're still active, and I have reason to believe that they're operating out of the mid-western wasteland. That's all on my end, How are you doing?"

Shego was staring down at the table holding her forehead in her hands. Clearly she was trying to piece through the intricate and unpierceable web of lies you wove with the help of your sneakiest Employee, Janna, The Teenage Girl.

It took a minute, but finally Shego lifted her head to look at you with a broad and frankly sort of terrifying smile on her face. "I'm doing just fine Doofinshmirtz. Now... What's this about my brother getting punched into a pile of dangerous illegal super-power granting drugs?" She asks with a dangerous lilt. With a start, you notice that her eyes are quite literally alight with green fire.

She saw through your lies! Incredible! The carefully crafted lies that Janna coached you so extensively on! You thought that they were completely un-see-through-able! But she saw through them! Truly, Shego is your greatest Rival after all!

You need a distraction, fast!

"What? Drug trade? I've never heard of any drug trade. Hego? Who's Hego? By The way, you should know that one of my employees accidentally fired up an Inator that will effect the probabilities of everything in the entire world for the next two months. Things that are likely to happen will be more likely to happen, and things that aren't likely to happen will be less likely to happen. So uh... Don't try any long-shot plans?"

You quickly babble out, sliding out of the booth.

"Oh! look at my wrist!" you mutter as an excuse. "I'm late for a very important excuse that I have to make up right now! I'll see you when you forget all about Hego fighting the drug trade! Which he definitely couldn't have done because you wiped them all out! This was a great chat! see you in two months! Bye!"

And with that, you valiantly flee to your flying car and fly off into the sunset, taking care to try and forget what happened to the last flying vehicle that Shego was upset with.
 
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Idea: do space. Then do flubber IN SPACE! Watch Doom uselessly complain when there's nothing to blow up and nobody cares. Unlock Weather Manipulation tech along with Greco-Roman Terraforming tech to terraform Mars. Create the martian colony of New Doofania.
 
I am extremely curious why you think it is a good thing for us to hire indiscriminate murderers, especially Toonish ones. When those nuts murder under the employ of DEI, how do you think Doom is going to frame it?

Hell, Russ would absolutely hate us for hiring them. They are completely off tune from the narrative we have for heroes currently and would actively sabotage my enjoyment of the quest.

Well, if nothing else, if Mirage did recruit them, I doubt any quester would vote for the gacha again, so I guess there are benefits.
I'm not advocating for hiring Megavolt, this is just my reasons for thinking that hiring Megavolt by gacha accident would be great.
  1. Excellent synergy with TECHNOR for a heroball. He'd be able to keep TECHNOR charged, TECHNOR could help him with his issues, he'd have no problems working with a robot.
  2. His Learning and Martial are excellent, well-suited for quests or heroballs.
  3. He's not a murderer, he's just got a bodycount. He's insane, and in his mind, humans are enslaving machines. He's not a bad guy, it's just that his worldview is nuts. TECHNOR isn't a magic bullet, but it could help.
  4. We are among the top Toon experts. If there's someone who can keep Megavolt imprisoned if necessary, we're them.
  5. We will have missions that will have little to zero contact with humans. Sending him to interact with the human-enslaving robot hats or the futuristic robot princess would be a good use of him.
  6. We'd have Megavolt off the Rolodex and people would be more willing to spin the wheel once we show that we can deal with him.
 
That just leaves Item two on your list to talk to Shego about. You pull out a small spiral bound note pad and consult it. Item two on the list is... the Dickens Detective Agency report? That's easy enough to summarize.

"Oh, on a totally unrelated side note, I got a report from the detective agency I hired to look into that floating drug-fueled fortress you blasted out of the sky. It was a decoy, and you didn't destroy the drug cartel after all. They're still active, and I have reason to believe that they're operating out of the mid-western wasteland. That's all on my end, How are you doing?"

Shego was staring down at the table holding her forehead in her hands. Clearly she was trying to piece through the intricate and unpierceable web of lies you wove with the help of your sneakiest Employee, Janna, The Teenage Girl.
This segment brings me great joy. This is exactly how we should tell Shego about the drug ring.
 
Mmm... I'm not exactly sure if that would happen. I mean, we've no idea of what Heroes other Kings hire, in the same way, Buddy (or Shego for the matter) didn't know that we recruited Mirage or that Toffee doesn't know we've recruited Janna or Khan knows we've Wasabi. So I don't think we'd take any hit to our relationships by just recruiting them since no one would know.
I am aware that the other Kings wouldn't care about us hiring the Fearsome Five, well, other than thinking that we are nuts for willing associating with people with a connection to Negaduck. The issue is that the Fearsome Five don't really seem, well, discrete. Doom would certainly take advantage. Doom is going to be back in the Intrigue game soon, since he did kill Hawk. Furthermore, what would Doof think? Why would he do something that risks bringing a member of the Fearsome Five to Doofania, where Vanessa lives.

I'm not advocating for hiring Megavolt, this is just my reasons for thinking that hiring Megavolt by gacha accident would be great.
I would much rather buy fusion power from Khan. His Learning and Martial does not outweigh the fact that he is a murderer and would cause Russ (at least) to have Loyalty maluses.

Being a murderer is part of the definition of having a body count. What the fuck?

That sounds like it would make people less willing to work for us. I mean, great! We've imprisoned a guy who we reached out to hire because we don't like him! Putting him in contact with Drossel is an absolutely horrid idea. He is insane and she is highly impressionable. If we Gacha'd Megavolt people would remember that the Gacha can indeed get us absolute lunatics that would drag down the Quest, so no, that isn't a benefit.
 
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