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sunsunsunsunsun said:
SON OF A ***** Hego is banned from stewardship forever, the dice decree
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Eh, rolling a six happens.

mangawriter77 said:
.............How has no one thought of this? This helps TECHNOR's power malus for a turn or two, as well as defends us from a crippled Doom
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Because draining the entire power grid of Southern California is the kind of shit that's going to attract negative hostile attention if we get caught, and TECHNOR, THE MECHANICAL MAN is not what you'd call subtle.

Also, ENCOM headquarters is co-located with the target. I'm pretty sure the Master Control Program's primary servers have backup power, and it's gonna be pissed that we did that.

Light said:
To prioritize the meta, with, if we get the Glooms, limited knowledge of other dimensions, and if we get Rotwood, potentially something along the lines of how Unicorn hair was used against Bill to be used against Toffee, as well as more options against Bill.
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I see no reason to think Rotwood would give us information against Bill Cipher.

More generally, all sorts of hero units are good. Not just the ones we already know about. For example, at no point did we seriously consider hiring Alan Bradley or Roddy Blair, King of Lairs... but we're damn glad to have them now. We got Technor and Mirage from rolling the dice on recruiting unknowns, as well!

So rolling the dice on new ones is not a bad idea at all.
 
RIP Sandwich. You were, apparently, too good for this world. Although, being a suspicious sort, it's entirely possible that @Made in Heaven decided to cheese the sandwich roll. Can't say I blame them, honestly. After all, who would relish having to describe a sandwich knowing that no matter how much you ham it up it will never compare to the real thing? A judicious spread of adjectives, loving smeared across a page to hold a readers attention. Crisp punctuation providing a delightful textual contrast to more saucy verbage. Crafting such a thing would be quite the accomplishment but I suppose they never wanted to be in this pickle in the first place. So it is no surprise that they turned chicken at the prospect of describing this poor, lamented sandwich.

Alas, what could have been.
 
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Olivebirdy said:
Regarding the space program idea, which I am ride-or-die on, I'd like to point out that starting our Space Program has a DC of 0. There is no way to not get a Critical Success for it, and the feds only got a Massive Success.
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I am completly aware that we don´t NEED WyndComm for my idea (christenened "Project: DEAR" for now) to take off sucessfully, but acquiring them beforehand for their Space Science expertise surely would only benefit the outcome of DEI taking to the stars - that´s why I marked "Buy Out WynndComm" as an optional zeroth step.

But regardless, tanks for showing support for this idea that genuinely came to me while trying to sleep yesterday.

And to anyone worried about us not having the slots: I consider this a needless concert as previously stated.
 
I think I'd prefer it if we recruited from our Rolodex this turn (+ another action of recruiting)). As I see it there are 2 possibilities for what would happen with a critical success there:

-First, we get to chose another Hero Unit to recruit from our Rolodex, this is the most logical since it's what has happened with all the recruitment actions when we crit.

-Second, the hero unit we chose comes with increased loyalty. This is something very useful too for Hero Units with secrets or that we want at high loyalty, for example, Fred with him having a way to contact Hero but probably needing high loyalty to trust us with that or Momakase with her having a pretty high intrigue but also being extremely mercenary to name a few.
 
Simon_Jester said:
I see no reason to think Rotwood would give us information against Bill Cipher.

More generally, all sorts of hero units are good. Not just the ones we already know about. For example, at no point did we seriously consider hiring Alan Bradley or Roddy Blair, King of Lairs... but we're damn glad to have them now. We got Technor and Mirage from rolling the dice on recruiting unknowns, as well!

So rolling the dice on new ones is not a bad idea at all.
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You misread what I was saying.

Rotwood doesn't know about Bill, so you insinuating that I said that is putting words into my mouth.

People were saying, a while back, that Rotwood was some sort of expert on magic creatures.

Unicorn hair is a counter against Bill.

That is meant to be used as analogical evidence that other magical creatures could be similarly useful, and that Rotwood would be useful for that purpose.
 
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TheGleeman said:
I am completly aware that we don´t NEED WyndComm for my idea (christenened "Project: DEAR" for now) to take off sucessfully, but acquiring them beforehand for their Space Science expertise surely would only benefit the outcome of DEI taking to the stars - that´s why I marked "Buy Out WynndComm" as an optional zeroth step.

But regardless, tanks for showing support for this idea that genuinely came to me while trying to sleep yesterday.

And to anyone worried about us not having the slots: I consider this a needless concert as previously stated.
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Hmm...well, as it's been pointed out, the space program is a 0 DC action, so theoretically there's not way to not get a critical success when combined with the Probabilitor-inator. We could have LOVEMUFFIN handle that. It seems like something that might shut them up for a while, and it leaves us with two other science actions to use.
 
Olivebirdy said:
Regarding the space program idea, which I am ride-or-die on, I'd like to point out that starting our Space Program has a DC of 0. There is no way to not get a Critical Success for it, and the feds only got a Massive Success.
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Made in Heaven said:
[ ] Begin the Doofenshmirtz Evil Space Program
DC ???, higher DC indicates higher initial success
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It's not a DC of Zero, it's a variable DC. You might be right about it becoming an auto crit success? But I suspect that it's a number of different DCs, if we roll beneath the first one we'll get a crit fail, and if we roll above the first we'll get a critical success of a tier of whichever DC we last beat. With that said we do not know the initial dc. That sort of risk is something I'd rather avoid with our new Probibilitor-inator.
 
Stratagemini said:
It's not a DC of Zero, it's a variable DC. You might be right about it becoming an auto crit success? But I suspect that it's a number of different DCs, if we roll beneath the first one we'll get a crit fail, and if we roll above the first we'll get a critical success of a tier of whichever DC we last beat. With that said we do not know the initial dc. That sort of risk is something I'd rather avoid with our new Probibilitor-inator.
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That´s explicitly one reason why I´d prefer buying out WynndCom next turn, if they are still aviable by then.

If not, we moght wanna put either Van Drake or Jumba on it to have a reasonable chance at making it.
 
TheGleeman said:
That´s explicitly one reason why I´d prefer buying out WynndCom next turn, if they are still aviable by then.

If not, we moght wanna put either Van Drake or Jumba on it to have a reasonable chance at making it.
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Lets not put Van Drake on it? we don't know the DC! she could wander to Extradimensional tech and crit fail us on it.
 
Slightly off-topic, but I hope we get a chance to build power armor for our power armor.

Too crazy, you say?

Well I say...


Not crazy enough.
 
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How about instead of researching a completely new field and starting to compete with the Feds with the Space program we just focus on what we're good at, AI and Genetics, especially Genetics.
 
Stratagemini said:
It's not a DC of Zero, it's a variable DC. You might be right about it becoming an auto crit success? But I suspect that it's a number of different DCs, if we roll beneath the first one we'll get a crit fail, and if we roll above the first we'll get a critical success of a tier of whichever DC we last beat. With that said we do not know the initial dc. That sort of risk is something I'd rather avoid with our new Probibilitor-inator.
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Made in Heaven said:
President George Richmond
[ ] Restart the space program
DC 0, higher number means higher success
81+32+26+30 (???)=169
Massive Success

President Richmond, despite getting scathing criticism for his role in the collapse of the country, has recently regained a lot of good will in the last months of his presidency, having worked to rebuild the military and the economy to great success. Having proven that the most pressing problems facing the country are in the past, Richmond announced the revival of the space program along with a massive budget increase for NASA. He announced his hopes to have a man on the moon within a year and a man on Mars within five. Critics are already lambasting the program as a vanity project, but initial progress has been strong and more supportive figures are suggesting Richmond wishes to cement a positive legacy for his tenure.
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Made in Heaven said:
[ ] Begin the Doofenshmirtz Evil Space Program
DC ???, higher DC indicates higher initial success
Space. The final frontier. The one place you've never managed to crack with any sort of regularity. Sure, you've sent up the odd satellite or twenty, and you even had some plans for a space station in the works, but that literally never got off of the ground. Instead of expanding outward, you can expand upward! Imagine the possibilities! Space Science! A vantage point to spy for aliens unobstructed by a pesky atmosphere! An asteroid belt filled to the brim with valuable minerals!

(Reward: Space program started, research options unlocked, questline unlocked)
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I suppose that there could be a difference between our space program and the government's space program. I'd assume it was a bar to fill since judging by the fact that the Fed's space program was a bar, I'd think it's a good bet, but as you say, it could be a set of different DCs. If it is a set of DCs, it's highly likely that the lowest DC is pretty darn low, especially since we've already sent satellites to space.

With how lukewarm the thread is on opening up a new front is anyway, getting a Crit Failure on the first step of setting up a space program really isn't that bad. It would just mean that we wouldn't focus on space anymore.

Edit: Case in point.
Retrueno said:
How about instead of researching a completely new field and starting to compete with the Feds with the Space program we just focus on what we're good at, AI and Genetics, especially Genetics.
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Because I want to go to space. I want to win the space race. That simple.

If you want to be prosaic about it, though, the government will likely have bounties, awards, funding. I personally want to compete with the Feds, not allow them to have a win, because we as a tinpot dictator have an interest in small government, but cooperating with them on this would have good rewards.
 
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Retrueno said:
How about instead of researching a completely new field and starting to compete with the Feds with the Space program we just focus on what we're good at, AI and Genetics, especially Genetics.
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...With my idea we won´t be competing with anyone all that much - quite the opposite, in fact.

We will be *supporting* anyone investing in Space...for a price, of curse.

I think that some of you people take us Kings being competitors with each other so literally that there can be only one at the top and anyone else has to be crushed underfoot at one point.

Trust me when I say, that that line of thinking will cost us dearly all too soon.
 
Retrueno said:
How about instead of researching a completely new field and starting to compete with the Feds with the Space program we just focus on what we're good at, AI and Genetics, especially Genetics.
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You are making the false assumption that the only thing we can do with space is to start a space program and compete with feds.

We have a lot of space tech either already researched or as low hanging fruit.

What we could do is meet with the government and then get government contracts, to get massive amounts of money and probably fed opinion boost on top of Russ loyalty to do just the R&D related stuff.

@TheGleeman makes a good point. You can't treat this like a board game with only one winner at the end.
 
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Actually, in terms of easy Stewardship actions, have we considered buying out Hopper next turn, just because I have a feeling that's one of those "crit-success=new hero units" one?
 
nwish425 said:
You know, this mission is hitting home for me since I live in the middle of Iowa, so in this timeline I'm probably a corpse berried under a mountain of trash from when the paradox dropped it on top of me, along with everyone I know and love.
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mangawriter77 said:
You got off easy. I'd have to deal with the omnipotent Xanatos on a daily basis. Which would cause my extreme paranoia to shoot through the roof with all the back-alley deals and mystical happenings all around me
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pshhh. Im partying(live) in oregon so I got bill :p


[X] The Probabilitor-Inator


[X] The BnL Wall-To-Wall Hyper-Mega-Mall
 
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