Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
- Location
- Colombia
We may gain whit the hokage but the Hagomoro will spin it to mean that a novice of their clan can out-think the expert gouketsu. In the other hand this may force the to treat him better.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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- Yes.
KAGOME: *nods sagely*
- Location
- Liverpool
Less reaction post, more quotable quotes. This chapter's Hazou is, possibly, the most personally relatable one I've found yet. Across the whole, even if some of the particular uplift speeches really resonated.
That is an entire vibe. Incidentally "make a better reality than god/sage with less materials and more complications" is the biggest flex that I'm very much here for
Ah, yes, my favorite variation on "you're right and I hate it, thanks"
I feel called out here, both in and out of the hivemind. But, in a positive way, that needs to be done occasionally for healthy awareness.
I know Keiko has a hard time believing people's model of her, but I feel Akane probably also doesn't grasp just how much Hazou respects and appreciates her.
And very much agreed.
That would be the most terrifying and interesting epilogue I'd read about 5 times through. And I'm glad that both Keiko and Hazou are actually looking at the now and the end of What uplift looks like.
This response by Hazou is painfully relatable. The self-awareness by Keiko, appreciated. The immediate stresser mode Hazou went in here, like he was in a (conceptual) fight, accurate.
Also, frustratingly relatable.
This was a very nice chapter. This is what I like to see in our more drama-prone encounters. Even if the ending was.. About what should be expected.
That is an entire vibe. Incidentally "make a better reality than god/sage with less materials and more complications" is the biggest flex that I'm very much here for
Ah, yes, my favorite variation on "you're right and I hate it, thanks"
I feel called out here, both in and out of the hivemind. But, in a positive way, that needs to be done occasionally for healthy awareness.
I know Keiko has a hard time believing people's model of her, but I feel Akane probably also doesn't grasp just how much Hazou respects and appreciates her.
And very much agreed.
That would be the most terrifying and interesting epilogue I'd read about 5 times through. And I'm glad that both Keiko and Hazou are actually looking at the now and the end of What uplift looks like.
This response by Hazou is painfully relatable. The self-awareness by Keiko, appreciated. The immediate stresser mode Hazou went in here, like he was in a (conceptual) fight, accurate.
Also, frustratingly relatable.
This was a very nice chapter. This is what I like to see in our more drama-prone encounters. Even if the ending was.. About what should be expected.
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- Location
- United States
But he also won't actually make the seal, so the personally vetted Goketsu student came up with a great idea and had no way to act on it due to needing further education and tutelage, and will likely be continuing with Goketsu-Sensei for years by order of the Hokage.
So they can try to spin it but that's a really hard spin while he's still going to the Goketsu Estate and sealing labs for years to learn, all the while Hazou is getting better and better, and has Kagome as *his* sensei (possibly) the most senior sealsmith in Leaf.
- Location
- Kiev, Ukraine
I'm pretty sure this title is claimed by uncle Oro. Everything else sounds good to me.
- Location
- United States
Fair point! I forgot about him as a sealsmith, more as a malicious force of nature.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
It is indeed a great name. :>
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Regardless of what happens, we need to sit down with the kid and let him know in no uncertain terms that he had a critical insight and the nearsighted shinobi with a stammer has, at the age of [age], done more to protect not only his clan, not only Leaf, not only the Human Path, but the entire universe than...well, most [age]-year-olds. In fact, we should find out when Naruto did his first A-rank mission and see who got there first.
I want him to know down to his bones that this is not solely our accomplishment, that we will not be taking all the credit, and that it says a lot about his creativity, insight, and general ability as a sealmaster.
Then we can sit him down with Gaku for a bit so they can commiserate about their sudden promotions to greatness, find out what his birthday is, and make it a national holiday.
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
[X] Gouketsu Hazou's Birthday
[X] Hidan visits Hidden Rock
[X] Hidan visits Hidden Rock
- Location
- Pacific standard
[X] recieve a summoning scroll from cousin Itachi for a birthday present
● Go bowling
- Location
- USA
Hey all, this is an action plan that includes actionable stuff for Akane and Haru to do! I encourage people who voted for the Noir Detective Haru interlude to vote for this, and to give feedback on the plan.
[X] Action Plan: Noir Detective Haru
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To Haru and Akane:
[X] Action Plan: Noir Detective Haru
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To Haru and Akane:
- Tone: our best guess, but we don't have ground-level understanding.
- Here's what we think happened.
- The Hyuuga engineered the bank run for their benefit. They bought our scrip in bulk and didn't visibly use it.
- That scrip was probably a large part of what was cashed out.
- However, they tipped off their allies the Hagoromo, prompting the Hags to make major purchases with the scrip right before the bank run.
- Could be the other way around -- Hagoromo then Hyuuga -- or could involve other clans too.
- So, we can try to follow the trail of information.
- Generally, try to be subtle first.
- The Hyuuga engineered the bank run for their benefit. They bought our scrip in bulk and didn't visibly use it.
- Hyuuga's patsies.
- Many of the payments at the bank run -- especially the earliest and largest payments -- were probably done by Hyuuga patsies.
- Track them down and learn how they got their scrip, and how they coordinated cashing it out.
- We want to know if Hyuuga orchestrated this.
- (If need be, -1 FP to Declare that we kept records of who was cashing out scrip and how much)
- Many of the payments at the bank run -- especially the earliest and largest payments -- were probably done by Hyuuga patsies.
- Hyuuga informing Hagoromo.
- See if anyone noticed meetings between Hyuuga and Hagoromo.
- Find meeting spaces and irregularities:
- Private spaces booked?
- Meetings with other clans cancelled?
- People's schedules suddenly changing?
- Get information out of the identified middlemen.
- Try to avoid interaction with the Hagoromo ninja directly, unless confident that it'll lead to something.
- Clan civilians could be a good source of information on the Hagoromo finances.
- Especially since they don't think civilians are relevant actors.
- Find meeting spaces and irregularities:
- See if anyone noticed meetings between Hyuuga and Hagoromo.
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Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Alrighty, theres a nice easy way for me to handle this that reeks of chaos.
Excellent.
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- Location
- Land of Snow
I would like to see him more, maybe as a senior sealmaster on site. Any meaningful outside-of-lab interaction with people that are not Goketsu.
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Action Plan: Noir Detective Haru
I made a few suggestions that I'm hoping will seen in time to be considered. I think that keeping the tone in mind is important give that Haru can be prickly. I'm not seeing clear evidence the Hyuuga engineered the bank run (I'd bank on the Hags approaching the Hyuuga for help, or hardliner Hyuugas reaching out to the Hags with a plan to destroy us politically/economically, but I'm not sure which) and then brought the Hags in.
Most importantly, I also think that being specific in how we want to chase down Hag/Hyuuga connections is a good idea; plans need to be actionable, and I imagine that Haru is trying to pin them down presently. Narrowing the search for people who might have overheard something (private booths booked by the Hags on these dates, now let's run through the guest list and squeeze them) or looking for the shadows of meetings (if Hyuuga Rin plays chakraball every Wednesday but skipped it twice, that might be something) are ideas that Haru might not have had.
If his natural investigative talent and work with Mari means he already tried all this and came up empty, we can look concussed and be apologetic.
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My problem with this theory is that I can't imagine Hinata sucessfully manipulating Ritsuo. I can imagine the opposite, but Ritsuo seems smarter than that.
Maybe there was a Hyuuga elder that masterminded the whole thing? But looking purely at the clan heads, I would expect Hinata to be the patsy. And looking at what happened, the Hagoromo got a load of stuff like a chunk of land, while the Hyuuga were left holding their scrip for no meaningful gain.
Maybe there was a Hyuuga elder that masterminded the whole thing? But looking purely at the clan heads, I would expect Hinata to be the patsy. And looking at what happened, the Hagoromo got a load of stuff like a chunk of land, while the Hyuuga were left holding their scrip for no meaningful gain.
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- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I don't think we know enough to draw causal arrows, and the outcome of this is going to be that Hinata - and Ritsuo - throw some folks to the wolves. Whether or not their hands are personally clean is not something I imagine we'll find out; they're clan heads, so they're not going down, and they're ninja, so creating evidence that they had nothing to do with this is going to be as easy as falling down.
Now, we might be able to use the rift this will create in the Hagomoro (clan head chucking some loyalists under the bus doesn't make for good PR) to see if we can create our own faction...with kid Hag and his world-saving seals at the forefront.
On the contrary, this is a just a bit more evidence away from being a massive smoking gun that we can show Asuma and go "look, these two clans caused the bank run on purpose". We're not using this whole thing to play politics and move factions around. We're doing it to clear our name, and direct the hokage at the actual culprits.