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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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I very much agree with Eva regarding the Armoured Maidens project, particularly given there are an plenty of other Runelord's to help out and there are ones that literally specialize in creating armor.

All those actions invested into that project would be enough to learn Eltharin to fluency, pick up Exceptional Alchemy with the free actions from retainers and from favor, and get a large way into the actual Akazit research itself.

The latter one is just so, very much more interesting to me really particularly if we can get this done while all the Ancestors themselves are still around. This skill has very different implications after all if we get it done while the Ancestor God's still have over a century left before they fade, vs a couple decades if you go for Armoured Maiden, then Gazul's Graveguard, then... whatever else pops up after that.

The ability for us to create something utterly unique and revolutionary rather than apeing them, and have it be something the Ancestor God's themselves would be interested in is just orders of magnitude more interesting for me.


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[X] Plan Royalty and Royal Patronage - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan No corpse, No Armoured Maidens, Aid Valayans - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan Royalty and Kittybirds - Brother King Variant
 
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IronFist said:
@soulcake when we learn Eltharin could we make a rune of translation for it, or is Khazalid inherent to the runes of speech?
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You've only ever used Khazalid, not like you have any actual other language to try it on, though Khazalid and Runes have a special relationship so Snorri wouldn't be surprised if it turns out Runes only speak in Khazalid.
butchock said:
Can we get a live White Lion to communicate and study? The post states that they are smart, but are they Braka-smart? I wonder what our reaction would be once we find out about the Kingdom of Caledor and their dragon-riding habits
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OOC: Smart as a regular Griffon. Not quite sapient, but not dumb.
IC: Snorri has no clue. Just stories to go on. If it turns out they're as sapient as Brana then it'd be pretty sus to capture and hold such a being captive for study. Also there's no impetus on his end at least. >_>
 
Rovos said:
no.
that was becouse of the greedy ones son specifically and becouse the brana were saturated with magic and very maluable at that point. the white lions are not.
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I'm not sure about the not magic saturated part, everything on Ulthuan is saturated with magic and we really only have limited knowledge on the white lions.
 
DXCS said:
I'm not sure about the not magic saturated part, everything on Ulthuan is saturated with magic and we really only have limited knowledge on the white lions.
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look feeding a greedy troll to a creature doesn't give them sentience.
the brana are a very odd case and should not be taken as a statement for how it works.
 
Rovos said:
look feeding a greedy troll to a creature doesn't give them sentience.
the brana are a very odd case and should not be taken as a statement for how it works.
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I get that you can't do it with just any creature, but the White Lions are the elven equivalent to the griffons humans ride to war and Soulcake explicitly stated that they are as smart as ordinary griffons before they were turned into Brana.
 
Force Feeding an animal magical flesh in the vain hope that you recreate the circumstances to make a sapient entity on par with the King of the Skies is both unethical and unlikely.

Youre more likely to get a bunch of dead White Lions.

Also IC, Snorri is only vaguely aware of what made the KoTS sapient.
 
[X] Plan Royalty and Royal Patronage
[X] Plan Royalty and Royal Patronage - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan No corpse, No Armoured Maidens, Aid Valayans - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan Royalty and Kittybirds - Brother King Variant

I'm not interested in taking a 12 actions request. I want to do alchemy and rune metal 5, and i don't really want to have to wait until turn 42 to see it.
 
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[X] Plan Royalty and Royal Patronage
[X] Plan Royalty and Royal Patronage - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan No corpse, No Armoured Maidens, Aid Valayans - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan Royalty and Kittybirds - Brother King Variant

There are other runesmiths that can fill the request and i would like to read more about discovering new things instead.
 
[X] Plan Royalty and Royal Patronage
[X] Plan Royalty and Royal Patronage - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan No corpse, No Armoured Maidens, Aid Valayans - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan Royalty and Kittybirds - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan Royalty and Kittybirds

Any of these are fine in my book, even if I slightly prefer the kittybird ones.
 
[X] Plan Royalty and Royal Patronage
[X] Plan Royalty and Royal Patronage - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan No corpse, No Armoured Maidens, Aid Valayans - Brother King Variant
[X] Plan Royalty and Kittybirds - Brother King Variant
 
This may seem like a strange question but why exactly do people think its a good idea to add gromril chain mail to that religious commission or anything else at this time? You'd be handing them something that can only be repaired by santa dwarf or an ancestor god. That seems like something that shouldn't be done until other rune masters could service those things.

It also seems like kind of a company store policy of deploying something too awesome to use... and the other choice is go bother an ancestor god for maintenance. This just seems to fly against the idea of maximum usefulness of actions thing MC has going.
 
Necratoid said:
This may seem like a strange question but why exactly do people think its a good idea to add gromril chain mail to that religious commission or anything else at this time? You'd be handing them something that can only be repaired by santa dwarf or an ancestor god. That seems like something that shouldn't be done until other rune masters could service those things.

It also seems like kind of a company store policy of deploying something too awesome to use... and the other choice is go bother an ancestor god for maintenance. This just seems to fly against the idea of maximum usefulness of actions thing MC has going.
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To be honest? It's not going to happen regardless. We only have time for 2b and that won't be enough to mass produce it.
 
Id advocate getting new apprentices in the near future . They have been one of the best part of the quest sofar and id like to not abandon it . Maybe again with a emphasis for clanless / orphans for students unless there is another genius out there for some reason.
 
Necratoid said:
This may seem like a strange question but why exactly do people think its a good idea to add gromril chain mail to that religious commission or anything else at this time? You'd be handing them something that can only be repaired by santa dwarf or an ancestor god. That seems like something that shouldn't be done until other rune masters could service those things.

It also seems like kind of a company store policy of deploying something too awesome to use... and the other choice is go bother an ancestor god for maintenance. This just seems to fly against the idea of maximum usefulness of actions thing MC has going.
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Gromril is almost indestructible, it breaking is not going to be a common thing, beyond that Snorri isn't even willing to announce he can make the chain until he has a method others can use at which point he will almost certainly teach his apprentices and very likely trade it with other runesmiths so if we are using chain on the order it's because making/repairing it won't be reliant on the ancestor gods.
 
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