Well, as I said earlier, it sort of changes things a bit when you recall that she is a superhuman killing machine that is scary enough to have blackmail on one of the most powerful people in the world.
Aren't we all? :)

In all seriousness though, why does this make it IC important that Hazou go and talk to her? (OOC I think it would be a cool conversation to read about and that the thread would probably learn something interesting). I personally think that we can do the conversation without a major opsec breach if we're careful enough, but her Kage-level socials are an argument that Hazou "what's OPSEC" Gouketsu should steer clear of her rather than a good reason for us to chat.
 
That's quitters talk. If you really cared about getting permission from dead people, you'd be helping me run the time-travel development conspiracy. Don't fall for @MadScientist 's necromantic temptations!
If we can perfect time travel then we can simply Go Back and Fix What Once Went Wrong!

You know what this means?!

That's right!

We'll catch the telescope merchant the very first time around, all those years ago...
 
Dear god.


MARI: *cracks a smile, is almost recovered*

HAZOU: And thats how I used social skills to cover up an OPSEC breach! Aren't you proud?

MARI: I sure am Hazou, I sure am.

KAGOME: Whats that noise?

BOOOOM

AMI: *kool-aid mans through the door*

HAZOU: Fu-

AMI: The special envoy to Leaf is here! And I've been told that the Heartbreaker is also here! Here is my housewarming present!!

*unseals skeleton*

AMI: Say hi to your uncle!
HAZOU: Oh, thanks Ami! Hey Kagome, wanna go blow up the skeleton in Mari's closet?
 
Has Keiko said that? And if Hazou could find a way for her to spend time with Ami, wouldn't that make her happy?

Your dearly beloved ex, the one you believed was The One and you would spend your life with, has made it clear that they have zero interest in continuing a relationship with you, but at least your stepbrother hit it off with them and has started bringing them around all the time! Aren't you happy?
 
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By the way @Radvic I think the top 4 plans all engage with your list in at least some way, though I must say I enjoy @Noumero's Sand Genin part since getting them to start this till-n-fill stuff seems like a decent prize for casual interaction.
Excellent! For now, I'll just take your word on it and drive-by vote for them all. If I have time before vote close (highly unlikely at this point) I'll read them and offer feedback.

[x] Action Plan: Hazou's Busy Day To The Power Of Minus One
[X] Action Plan: Hazou's Busy Day Plus One
[X] O Minus Ami
[x] N Minus Ami
 
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You do understand that if this wins, we will write it, yes? It will probably be the end of the quest, but we'll write it.
Obviously. I do not bluff.

It's not a real plan, the x is false and the joke is that I act as though it's a real plan.

I'd be completely down for it winning, all the same. That would be devastatingly sad, but bloody hilarious.
 
You do understand that if this wins, we will write it, yes? It will probably be the end of the quest, but we'll write it.
Incorrect. Velorien has previously been on record as stating they will write for the plan that is in the first vote for it. Given that, he would write this plan:
[x] Action Plan: Gambling, Claymore Clones, and Banshee Fucking
Which, I mean, giving Velorien free reign is almost as bad, but still. :p
 
Incorrect. Velorien has previously been on record as stating they will write for the plan that is in the first vote for it. Given that, he would write this plan:
If enough people (clarification: regular voters) vote for it with real votes, I'll swap my fake x with the real one, making the plan actual. Don't think I wouldn't.
 
Countercounterargument: Hedonism to the expense of others incentivizes defection against oneself. :p
True. That just supports my position, though. After all, in that hypothetical, would the people meme-voting not already indulge in much the same, joking at the expense of other readers? They will have already incentivised me to defect.

More that that, in the hypothetical world where the regulars of this thread actually give eleven more votes to my clearly table-flipping plan, having learned nothing from all past meme-vote incidents, we will wholly deserve the fate I've promised to channel.
 
True. That just supports my position, though. After all, in that hypothetical, would the people meme-voting not already indulge in much the same, joking at the expense of other readers? They will have already incentivised me to defect.

More that that, in the hypothetical world where the regulars of this thread actually give eleven more votes to my clearly table-flipping plan, having learned nothing from all past meme-vote incidents, we will wholly deserve the fate I've promised to channel.
I'm not sure 'deserve' comes into it.
 
I'm not sure 'deserve' comes into it.
Sure. Substitute "will not have much room to argue about the outcome, as it would be a straightforward and expected consequence of this thread's voting system that they would have only expected to avoid by referring to an old ad hoc ruling of an authority figure, using it as an excuse to deliberately bring about a high-risk situation for the purposes of momentary amusement, in spite of the knowledge of several similar past incidents that almost ended in disaster".

Okay, I did not expect this discussion to get quite so serious. Let's wrap this up.
 
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Sure. Substitute "will not have much room to argue about the outcome, as it would be a straightforward and expected consequence of this thread's voting system that they only expected to avoid by referring to an old ad hoc ruling of an authority figure, using it to deliberately bring about a high-risk situation for the purposes of momentary amusement in spite of the knowledge of several similar past incidents that almost ended in disaster".

Okay, I did not expect this discussion to get quite so serious. Let's wrap this up.
(It's all good, discussions here tend toward either philosophy or nukes. And since we were discussing nukes, it had to be philosophy.)
 
I figure it might be easier to make an apparatus that a medic could use to transfuse someone in the field with their own pre-stored blood. Every ninja could keep their own blood storage seal in a necklace or something for the medic to grab and use. It would avoid a lot of the difficult problems with the automatic transfusion idea, like how to do the surgery and what to cover the seal in so it'd be safe to have hanging around in an artery for years.

For a transfusion kit at a minimum I think we'd need a needle attached to a waterproof bag or big syringe. The storage seal goes into the container, the container is closed, the needle goes into a vein, and the bag or syringe piston is pressed to pressure the blood into the patient. If we could make tubing we could use gravity, which would be a bit easier.

So how do we use medieval tech to make that stuff? I think we could make the needle by extruding a hollow wire and sharpening the end. They obviously know how to extrude good wire already. A cylinder and piston is easy. I'm not sure what to use for a waterproof bag; I'm hesitant to use an animal bladder, but it might work.

For tubing, I'm not sure. Any ideas, anyone?

Oh, and a separate idea; modern military uniforms have built in tourniquets around the base of each limb that can be quickly tightened in the event of a severe injury to stem blood loss. They're very simple, cheap, and save a lot of lives. We could easily adopt the idea for the CHAOS suit, and suggest adding it to standard Leaf ninja outfits.
I really like these ideas. I don't know what to suggest for tubing though, unless thoroughly cleaned out animal intestines might somehow work.
 
Your dearly beloved ex, the one you believed was The One and you would spend your life with, has made it clear that they have zero interest in continuing a relationship with you, but at least your stepbrother hit it off with them and has started bringing them around all the time! Aren't you happy?
Family is a different matter. And we're talking about getting them to change their minds, fixing the underlying problem.

I really like these ideas. I don't know what to suggest for tubing though, unless thoroughly cleaned out animal intestines might somehow work.
I don't really know enough about the properties of animal intestine to speculate. Cloth covered in wax and sewn into a tube might work. It's an old medieval waterproofing method, but I'm not sure if it could take the small amount of pressure a hung IV exerts. Maybe the stuff Kagome uses to waterproof seals could work better, it sounded like some sort of varnish. I also considered hollow wire, but I don't know if we could make it flexible (and therefore thin) enough.
 
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This would be a very useful, and presumably very tricky seal to make. A failure mode for this seal is that you overfill the artery, and your artery explodes. Not fun. In order to mitigate that, I would suggest making it repeatedly release extremely small amounts of blood, rather than trying to shove it all in there at once. Even better, a slow trickle, but I imagine that's even harder to do.
Most importantly, we need a way to test it which doesn't involve a human test subject. It may not matter that your veins are exploding when you're dying anyway, but test subjects who aren't dying would probably frown upon that. I would suggest using an animal model (whatever has a similar blood pressure to a human. I assume that varies based on size or something?). Maybe a large pig or something.

As for your previous idea of sealing away water once it reaches the stomach, one obvious failure mode is if it seals too much water, causing the subject to desiccate, or concentrating the stomach acid too much and it burning its way through the stomach lining. Again, definitely use an animal model for testing. Furthermore, the seal should gauge the level of water in the stomach, and only store more if it gets too high. It needs to only be able to store water, and to not be able to store water that still has chakra in it (so that Cthulhu doesn't come out of Hazou's small intestine).
I would also suggest that it jettison its contents into the Out when it is destroyed. Otherwise when it gets destroyed it may jettison its contents into the stomach, causing the subject to explode.

Overall, I would consider these seals to be very useful, but also very difficult to research.

I'd start testing with the following version:
  • Based on the air filter seal
  • Will calibrate over a few days, captures range of blood pressure. During resting and exertion.
  • Slowly stores blood (one tsp per day?) As long as BP is in the upper half of the observed range.
  • When BP is less than 50 percent of the lowest observed during that period, slowly release blood back into the body.
With some eventual goals:
  • Etched/embedded into the bone at the base of arms and legs, near major arteries and veins.
  • Pulls from arteries, releases into both arteries and veins.
  • Version for use in neck that can see large amount, releases into arteries, and can pump blood if it's not moving enough.
  • Version that can filter common poisons (from a blacklist) from blood.


Oh, and a separate idea; modern military uniforms have built in tourniquets around the base of each limb that can be quickly tightened in the event of a severe injury to stem blood loss. They're very simple, cheap, and save a lot of lives. We could easily adopt the idea for the CHAOS suit, and suggest adding it to standard Leaf ninja outfits.


Can we get someone (a tailor?) to prototype adding these to an otherwise standard ninja uniform? Also an undershirt.

It would just be adding a cinch near base of the arms and legs.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by faflec on Jan 8, 2019 at 7:51 AM, finished with 360 posts and 19 votes.
 
If enough people (clarification: regular voters) vote for it with real votes, I'll swap my fake x with the real one, making the plan actual. Don't think I wouldn't.
Countercounterargument: Hedonism to the expense of others incentivizes defection against oneself. :p

I voted for @Velorien to write what he wants before so that minor amount of mass murdering proposed in @Noumero's plan doesn't even phase me anymore.
 
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