Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
To help word count:
In addition, maybe add "Report in to Jiraiya" as our next check in would be right after the event, no?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
To help word count:
In addition, maybe add "Report in to Jiraiya" as our next check in would be right after the event, no?
- Location
- London
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- He/Him/They/Them
Regarding the Hengrue: would it be viable for this event to be the source of the outbreak of a chakra-infecting virus? One which is rapidly transferred by contact, has an incubation time of <however long it takes all contestants to get back to their villages> and causes henge not to work any more. That would save having to deal with everyone in deep cover suddenly having their disguises stop working.
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I...ok real talk: I did not consider the possibility of someone pretending to be drunk. I will probably erase the section, then. Give me a bit, I still have to do lunch.
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
- Location
- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
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[X] Action Plan: The Cautious Finishers
Consolidate our advantages and play it safe.
STL Politics:
[X] Action Plan: The Cautious Finishers
Consolidate our advantages and play it safe.
STL Politics:
- Confirm that STL will put down all information about each other in ballot (stablest cooperation strategy)
- Warn STL of potential tableflips and brainstorm counters
- Our suggestion: Become less active closer to the end, avoid crowds; take up Team Clanless' offer for mutual protection; prefer open areas so we can't get boxed in
- Distribute full list with Team Clanless (if they agreed) among known Leaf-nin without STL names
- Avoid places we could be ambushed at, stay within eyesight of each other
- Implement STL defense suggestions
- Use "Who's not sweaty" to ID ninja not included in our role sheet
- Use all the information we have to score points, identifying every (secret) role and ninja we are aware of
- Guess village/team/name/role for all ninja we are unsure of, using logic to determine most probable cases
- Full report to Jiraiya
- Apologize to Akane in private
- Lockbox clue: Talk to blacksmiths: find out how many were commissioned and why
- Check outside the East Gate for new building(s)
- Discuss findings with STL
- Ask non-disguised proctors to prove they are not henged before following their orders
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Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Re:Table flips
We have extracted almost everything we can out of STL this past update. I am hesitant to use them any more this event outside of Team Clanless. We can adequately defend against anything sane with a group of 6. If anything, grouping together makes us a larger target. Suggesting that we group together makes us look very weak and reliant on them, which we are not. I would vote for this if you remove this point.
Everything else looks good.
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
- Location
- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
Group of 6?
I can remove the grouping bit but why are we then inviting an additional team (presumably Team Clanless) when we aren't doing anything with them in that plan?
And FWIW, we are in a weakened position due to low chakra. Whether we want people to know that is a different matter of course.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Team Clanless?
They indicated they are up for teamwork in the last update, after we waxed on and extolled the virtues of working together. Unless we explicitly reject their offer (this would seem unwise, basically sounds like an insult) I imagine they would be along for the ride.
If anything they can assist us in getting in contact with non STL teams.
Edit: Also, Team Kurenai is likely to just say "No thank you, we are fine by ourselves." They have essentially all but stated they will not be aiding us for the remainder of the event. I don't think we should make a plan with their assistance in mind.
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Tua
鸡肉面条汤
- Location
- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
Changed it to grouping with Team Clanless only and added them to the bit where we distribute lists to the other non-STL teams.
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- Yes.
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Alright I've removed the more aggressive parts of my plan in order to make room for a post-Event plan. Basically all this plan is doing now is distributing stuff to other Leaf teams, no investigation beyond the whole checking sweat thing. I also made a suggestion to speak with the Yakuza, not sure how good an idea this is though, so I'm welcome to deleting it if an argument is made against it.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail The below quote suggests that we aren't allowed outside city limits; could we have confirmation regarding this?
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- Yes.
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- Potato land
[X] Action Plan: Topsy Turvy
I know it's a bit rich coming from me, of the "literally burn the event down" EM plan fame, but Bonku is a risky asset to overuse. Unlike STL members or even other Leaf ninja, he will not cover for us at all, and all it takes to blow the whole thing up is for a proctor to talk to him for 5 minutes. And while I don't think we'd necessarily be DQd or penalized for our stunt, the warning we got from the proctor this update makes me not want to take the risk.
@faflec In terms of more specific contigencies, our previous plan had us prepare for the list release "race to the bottom". That's when a top team releases a list with identities of other top teams, other top teams retaliate in kind, and all of them end up losing points as a result. I don't know that there is any way to stop and disrupt it, so originally we just prepared out own list with the intent of releasing it if someone else pulls the trigger first. Not sure whether adding this is worth 1 XP for going over 200 words, though.
Do you enjoy what you have wrought, @eaglejarl?
I know it's a bit rich coming from me, of the "literally burn the event down" EM plan fame, but Bonku is a risky asset to overuse. Unlike STL members or even other Leaf ninja, he will not cover for us at all, and all it takes to blow the whole thing up is for a proctor to talk to him for 5 minutes. And while I don't think we'd necessarily be DQd or penalized for our stunt, the warning we got from the proctor this update makes me not want to take the risk.
@faflec In terms of more specific contigencies, our previous plan had us prepare for the list release "race to the bottom". That's when a top team releases a list with identities of other top teams, other top teams retaliate in kind, and all of them end up losing points as a result. I don't know that there is any way to stop and disrupt it, so originally we just prepared out own list with the intent of releasing it if someone else pulls the trigger first. Not sure whether adding this is worth 1 XP for going over 200 words, though.
Do you enjoy what you have wrought, @eaglejarl?
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I think I can fit it in, give me a second.
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Fucking with incentives is fun!
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- Potato land
Honestly, though, I really like the fact that we have multiple competing plans and people like @Radvic becoming more active as a result of the new policy.
By the way @eaglejarl, I know I promised punching, but this is really not the best time and place for it. Still committed to making it happen under more favourable circumstances.
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Bumping for clarity: The current plan. I'm debating whether or not to remove the part where we investigate outside the city for clues on the Fifth Event, since previously Hazou expressed worry regarding whether or not we were even allowed outside the city.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
We'll probably get an answer by the time you'd have to remove that part, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I'm more interested in making the next event diplomatic. Although tbh...
You know what would kind of be a cool event? One in which you bet points on others' fights. It would reward effective intelligence gathering and the ability to cheat without being noticed.
Important distinction - they are to slap someone who is not a known fellow servant or someone described to be on the guest list. They can suspect someone of being a ninja all they want, but they're not allowed to slap them unless they're in a guise that isn't supposed to be there.
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Cariyaga I'd added this without thinking much on it but after consideration I worry that Akane will insist that we speak/address the issue now, or that we do have the time to talk more. I worry that, as it stands, my plan kinda brushes her off.
Ah, my mistake. Still, my original point regarding overuse of Bonku stands; I don't want to take the risk of his actions being linked to us disguising ourselves as a Mist official.
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[X] Action Plan: Topsy Turvy
If it's the stuff we're doing post-event, I think we're safe skipping the word "briefly" regarding our apology. I doubt she'd want to sit us down for two hours to go over everything in detail or anything when her team needs to keep moving just as much as ours does.
If it's the stuff we're doing post-event, I think we're safe skipping the word "briefly" regarding our apology. I doubt she'd want to sit us down for two hours to go over everything in detail or anything when her team needs to keep moving just as much as ours does.
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I'm concerned this leaves us with little way to verify information the leaf team gave us, and therefore relies entirely on trust.
Would prefer to trade away say ~80% of what we know and use the remaining 20% to verify what we get back, to be a bit less exploitable.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Look.
If she very much wants to air this all out now despite the circumstances as well as a quick apology then not only is she emotionally immature but tactically an absolute idiot and I would immediately begin conspiring with @Vecht on all possible ways we could conceivably dump her and replace her with
a) An oven/refrigerator combo with boxing gloves taped on
or
b) Someone with a lick of tactical common sense and a skill set complimentary to our current line up and goals
c) Neji
Edit: I second @Anderkent s recommendation on Leaf Team intel
- Location
- UK
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- He/Him
Imagine that in our world, some scientist releases some kind of mystical quantum virus that stops radio waves working. All equipment reliant on their use just shuts down. It makes no sense. It shouldn't even be possible. A basic piece of human civilisation, one founded in immutable physical laws, is gone forever and now we have to cope.
Now imagine, as a layperson, discovering the further implications. Turns out any quantum physicist can cause this kind of accident, without even needing special equipment. Turns out they've known all along that disasters on this scale are theoretically possible and it hasn't stopped them experimenting. Turns out that the only way to make sure that next time, say, somebody doesn't disable the concept of electricity, is to stop all quantum physics research ever.
Do you want to be a quantum physicist in that world?
(You can pick apart the details of the analogy, but the basic takeaway point is that suddenly every ninja in the world is discovering that sealing is terrifyingly dangerous, that it is capable of destroying things they didn't even know could be destroyed, and that they have no way to protect themselves except getting rid of all the sealmasters.)
In its own ways, this is worse than the sealing failure hypothesis. This is just a random effect that follows the patterns of a disease (though every medic-nin in the world will swear that something like this is impossible), arose spontaneously, and could arise spontaneously again at any time, with no known means of prevention or cure. Unless it's actually a bioweapon, and with that entirely reasonable suspicion, cue WW4.
Fundamentally, the reason I support the cognitive retcon version is that I can see no scenario in which one of the Academy Three, the most basic, fundamental techniques that have worked for every single ninja in the world for as long as there has been ninjutsu (as far as anyone knows) can just switch off, and there will not be huge, far-reaching consequences that will completely derail our worldbuilding and plot direction. Meanwhile, the illusiory version solves many of the mechanical problems inherent to the technique, but it retains most of the social ones ("How can a society where everybody can disguise themselves as anybody else at any time even slightly resemble a conventional one?").