Paths of Civilization

DocMatoi · Feb 17, 2018

George said:
Particularly powerful warlord doesn't actually make it certain that it's Genghis Khan or a similar figure. Personally, I feel that people should pay some lip service to that uncertainty.

Why else would AN make particular note of this guy?
I'd rather go back to the Ymaryn roots and be friends. But NOOOOOOOOO, apparently we've gotta die!

Oshha · Feb 17, 2018

SpeckofStardust said:
Well now you know how our nobility feel like.

I fail to see what you are trying to say here.

No7sHere · Feb 17, 2018

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Gr33n34r · Feb 17, 2018

peopel, china had black powder for ages. That doesn't mean they had guns. The first documented cannons were recorded in the middle east aroun the 13th century. WE ARE NOT YET IN THE !§TH CENTURY!

Rakuhn · Feb 17, 2018

[X] [Steppe] Send the traditionally determined bribes (x2)
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[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)

VoidZero · Feb 17, 2018

HanEmpire said:
That's what China did OTL too, and it fucked them over BAD.
Plus a Mythical Martial Khan isn't going to be slowed down by things like "weight" and "allies". Genghis Khan for instance went from a minor nobling to the ruler of Asia.

Error no, "China" at the time is split three ways when Yun (Khan's empire with absorbed Chinese officials) strikes a deal with North Song to conquer Liao (independent polity). Backstabbing occurred when Liao is out of the picture and South Song was formed when entire North was lost. So no, Khan's rise can be attributed to lack of unified China and excellent timing. Not saying Khan's capacity aren't exceptional nor lack of enemy, but the situation helped.

LuciDreamer · Feb 17, 2018

[X] [Steppe] Ignore the upstart, he will dash his forces against the People if he dares further action (x8)
[X] [Steppe] Send the traditionally determined bribes (x2)
[X] [Steppe] Acquiesce to the larger than usual demands (x0.8)
[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)

ExNihilo · Feb 17, 2018

[X] [Steppe] Send the traditionally determined bribes (x2)
[X] [Steppe] Acquiesce to the larger than usual demands (x0.8)
[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)

agumentic · Feb 17, 2018

Oshha said:
And it is unfair because we have suddenly switched from a system where each voter is equal to one where some voters are worth more than others.

Is things getting more realistic is less fair then before? I don't think so.

Chiperninerm · Feb 17, 2018

[X] [Steppe] Ignore the upstart, he will dash his forces against the People if he dares further action (x8)
[X] [Steppe] Send the traditionally determined bribes (x2)

DragonParadox · Feb 17, 2018

Oshha said:
And it is unfair because we have suddenly switched from a system where each voter is equal to one where some voters are worth more than others.

@Academia Nut

I have to agree, abruptly switching to this level of weighted voting is jarring enough that I at least consider it bad game design. A straight GM decision of 'the Ymaryn die to nomands' would have likely caused less bad blood than this since it does not make the thread pseudo-culpable for the act.

Strypgia · Feb 17, 2018

MrGazzer said:
The Gods are watching, it would behoove you to stop this nonsense.

the gods may have mercy. i do not. This man is wise. Heed him.

Oshha said:
And you know about what they say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. You are acting like a troll so I'm going to call you one.

Oshha said:
You have made a provocative post that is technically within the rules with no reason being delighting in messing up things for others. That is classic trolling and so I am perfectly happy to state that you are a troll. Which by the way, is the point I am trying to get across. If you don't want to be called a troll, then don't troll.

Oshha said:
By the way, due to Gavoon presenting his reasoning to me in PM, I am retracting all claims of him being a troll.

do not do this Declaring someone voting they way they want that you do not as a troll is close to asking for points for insults or disruption. As is carrying on for page after page about weighted voting being unfair. You will chill out, or you will take a break from the thread. The gods are on the QM's side, and he likes a peaceful thread.

8bitBob · Feb 17, 2018

EWilanO said:
peopel, china had black powder for ages. That doesn't mean they had guns. The first documented cannons were recorded in the middle east aroun the 13th century. WE ARE NOT YET IN THE !§TH CENTURY!

I'm not sure what your point is. PoC is not directly tied to reality. We're 1200 years ahead of real world progress and it's just a guideline anyway.

Adhoc vote count started by 8bitBob on Feb 17, 2018 at 3:18 PM, finished with 141669 posts and 56 votes.

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- Gavoon
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- Ian Drash
- sidestory
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minerva-n-memes · Feb 17, 2018

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minerva-n-memes said:
- looks back at previous disasters and failures in previous SV/SB quests -

Ah, yes, our current political entity will definitely last forever.

Hey everyone, what's been happening?

Killer_Whale · Feb 17, 2018

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Motoko · Feb 17, 2018

SMuha said:
[X] [Steppe] The steppes are clearly in need of their generational cleaning up (x10)
[X] [Steppe] Ignore the upstart, he will dash his forces against the People if he dares further action (x8)

Bro, this is literally Genghis Khan pls dont do this!

Adhoc vote count started by Motoko on Feb 17, 2018 at 3:17 PM, finished with 141664 posts and 55 votes.

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- PrimalShadow
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- Random Member
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- Ian Drash
- sidestory
- DkArthas
- SMY

Gr33n34r · Feb 17, 2018

and why do people believe that the leastweighted vote is always the best?

OliWhail · Feb 17, 2018

[X] [Steppe] Send the traditionally determined bribes (x2)
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[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)

agumentic · Feb 17, 2018

minerva-n-memes said:
[X] [Steppe] Send the traditionally determined bribes (x2)
[X] [Steppe] Acquiesce to the larger than usual demands (x0.8)
[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)

Hey everyone, what's been happening?

Next best thing to forever. Perhaps even now we can still be saved.

Hangwind · Feb 17, 2018

[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)
-[X] [Steppe] The steppes are clearly in need of their generational cleaning up (x10)

@Academia Nut can I add conditionals like this? Basically where it means that we try to make friends, but if that falls we attack?

Dorsey · Feb 17, 2018

DocMatoi said:
Why else would AN make particular note of this guy?
I'd rather go back to the Ymaryn roots and be friends. But NOOOOOOOOO, apparently we've gotta die!

Dude, our roots tell us "fuck all nomads and that one in particular." Help anyone in need doesn't mean befriending assholes.

Academia Nut · Feb 17, 2018

Hangwind said:
[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)
-[X] [Steppe] The steppes are clearly in need of their generational cleaning up (x10)

@Academia Nut can I add conditionals like this? Basically where it means that we try to make friends, but if that falls we attack?

Sure, I can run with that.

Marlin · Feb 17, 2018

[X] [Steppe] Ignore the upstart, he will dash his forces against the People if he dares further action (x8)

agumentic · Feb 17, 2018

Alright, those people that approval voted for ignore, now please remove that approval vote. Maybe traditional bribe will win.

HanEmpire · Feb 17, 2018

@Ian Drash, @sidestory, @Hangwind, @DkArthas, @SMuha
If you guys are dead-set on fighting the nomads, then can you at least go for an option that has us fighting defensively on homeground?

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