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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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Query for @soulcake
Reason for question: I was chatting with Dark as Silver a few days ago about Runes and Wind Theory and one of the points that came up was whether or not Rune inherently require a material ingredient to function, or if they can just be scribed plain.
Thus question: Do rune fundamentally require an ingredient? Would a Rune of Stone be incomplete unless a Runesmith at least gave it some Tier 0 gravel? Or can they just function without one?
 
[X] Plan: Fires of Inspiration, War and Drakks
[X] Plan: Refining Our Eyes, the Dragon Kaiju Begins, and Fieldwork Examination

[X] Write In: Schedule the first viewing of Karaz-Kazak-Rhun to take place at The Citadel of Creation. Advertise it as a "charity event" for the "less fortunate."

[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
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Darkwood2027 said:
Query for @soulcake
Reason for question: I was chatting with Dark as Silver a few days ago about Runes and Wind Theory and one of the points that came up was whether or not Rune inherently require a material ingredient to function, or if they can just be scribed plain.
Thus question: Do rune fundamentally require an ingredient? Would a Rune of Stone be incomplete unless a Runesmith at least gave it some Tier 0 gravel? Or can they just function without one?
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we have seen proof with grimnir carving a rune with nothing to feed the rune as ingredients and snorri figuring out how to do certain runes without as much ingredients i think
 
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids
 
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids

[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Dwalin, shopping for reagents in the Grozurbaz with his son.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
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[X] [Social:] Dreng on the mend
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
 
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BungieONI said:
your Fires of Inspiration variation put the Snorri AP on flame drinking, not the dragon.
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BungieONI said:
@Fanhunter696, not sure if you know this but that Convert Siphoning to Engineering is actually critical to designing the dragon at all.

Neither of these plans is valid mechanically.

Also Lagg just pointed something out to me on discord. @Gabriel_TFA we actually can't design things together. Design actions can only take one ap, anything else goes into building the item.
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Ok, I have already dealt wit that...

I still think that we should have Snorri design the golem though
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You have (5 +1 -2) =4 actions, (3 -1) =2 retainer actions, (4 -1) = 3 heir actions, and [Special] 0 Yorri prods this turn.
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@soulcake Would you mind explaining the math here?

If we lost one Snorri, one Kartash, and one Retainer due to us going for the Hammer together action why are you substracting two actions here?
 
Fanhunter696 said:
Ok, I have already dealt wit that...

I still think that we should have Snorri design the golem though

@soulcake Would you mind explaining the math here?

If we lost one Snorri, one Kartash, and one Retainer due to us going for the Hammer together action why are you substracting two actions here?
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Because going to get the hammer is an Expedition, so we don't benefit from the Hammer's bonus action this turn
 
_The_Bomb said:
It's a real shame to not get the additional two progress from putting in a third AP. It's not like we aren't going to research the next branch in the immediate future.

Do you see any way for us to free up an extra Snorri AP somewhere?
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It doesn't really matter much at the end of the day. We're going to need to put in 3 AP next turn anyway to finish this phase off. Now in theory I could drop Examine KKR for a third point this turn, but I don't want to.
 
MrRageQuit said:
It doesn't really matter much at the end of the day. We're going to need to put in 3 AP next turn anyway to finish this phase off.
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Yeah, but phases are more continuous and incremental than they used to be. What we really want is the result of the next phase's completion — or maybe the phase after that — and we'll take a lot more AP to reach that point if we invest in chunks of 2 AP instead of 3 AP.
 
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_The_Bomb said:
Yeah, but phases are more continuous and incremental than they used to be. We're going to want the result of the next phase's completion — or maybe the phase after that — and we'll take a lot more AP to reach that point if we invest in chunks of 2 AP instead of 3 AP.
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1. Not really, since they're now capped at 12 progress total. That's only 8 AP required per phase, not including any bonuses that crop up.
2. We have a bunch of things on the to-do list and the clock, given Soulcake's ominous warnings about Turn 60.
 
[X] Plan: The Dragon Kaiju Begins and Checking in on Draco Grandkids

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about reactions to you running off with Karaz-Kazak-Rhun [Extensive, Evolving]
[X] [Social:] Brynna covertly attends a competition in Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Fjolla showing her new smelter.
 
[X] Write In: Schedule the first viewing of Karaz-Kazak-Rhun to take place at The Citadel of Creation. Advertise it as a "charity event" for the "less fortunate."

Edit: I felt like being a bastard today.
 
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Boodlesnoop said:
[X] Write In: Schedule the first viewing of Karaz-Kazak-Rhun to take place at The Citadel of Creation. Advertise it as a "charity event" for the "less fortunate."
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You know, doing a viewing might not be a politically correct move. However, I actually think it could a good idea and the cons would be offset by Runesmiths/Master/Lords coming for inspiration and then might entice them to attend classes, immerse them in Khazgar culture, and engage in Rune trades.
 
Gotta credit @BananaBuddy for a fun thought on discord; we believe the current part of ESP is about broadening the possible focus. Banana's thought was that if that lets us track some of the Winds in the Sky, that might give us earlier warning for a Storm of Magic.

That kind of forecasting would honestly be pretty nice. Its speculation at the moment, but I dig it.
 
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BungieONI said:
Gotta credit @BananaBuddy for a fun thought on discord; the current part of ESP is about broadening the possible focus. If that lets us track some of the Winds in the Sky, that might give us earlier warning for a Storm of Magic.

That kind of forecasting would honestly be pretty nice. Its speculation at the moment, but I dig it.
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Has the Engineers Guild allowed for the standardization and widespread use of the Telescope? We could rune up a few with Wind-Sight. I mean the Brana already do that for us but allowing for a method of widespread detection/confirmation of Sorcerors/Magic users and heavily corrupted/chosen enemies would be an outright positive.

BTW can Runes be carved onto Glass? If not we could put them on goggles for Miners to perhaps detect Warpstone and thus the Gromril nearby.

When we finally fully refine our Wind Sight Rune we will have (near) conclusively solved Durin's consternation (pending "Divine" casting), given the Dawi wind sight, and possibly (if that Warpstone idea pans out) made a guaranteed method of detecting Gromril nodes.
 
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weeblypanda said:
Has the Engineers Guild allowed for the standardization and widespread use of the Telescope? We could rune up a few with Wind-Sight. I mean the Brana already do that for us but allowing for a method of widespread detection/confirmation of Sorcerors/Magic users and heavily corrupted/chosen enemies would be an outright positive.

BTW can Runes be carved onto Glass? If not we could put them on goggles for Miners to perhaps detect Warpstone and thus the Gromril nearby.

When we finally fully refine Wind Sight we will have (near) conclusively solved Durin's consternation, given the Dawi wind sight, and possibly (if that Warpstone idea pans out) made a guaranteed method of detecting Gromril nodes.
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Dunno about telescopes, possibly? I think so.

Runes can indeed be carved onto Glass, you actually have to inscribe Runes of Piercing Sight onto specially made glass lenses out of Gunbad (I think it was Gunbad).
 
Thoughts on the Warpstone detection goggles for Gromril Nodes plausibility?
Edit: I know stone can insulate such things and miners can smell it but can you see a powerful enough Magic sig through stone?
 
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weeblypanda said:
Thoughts on the Warpstone detection goggles for Gromril Nodes?
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Definitely a fun idea. Such a project might want to mix that with the rune of Prospecting we already have which points towards ore nodes. And then there's also some possibilities for the Rune of Piercing Sight.

But off the cuff Prospecting + completed Windsight would get them going nicely. I *think* you can see the Winds if the source is powerful enough and the stone thin enough - prospecting would help point in the right general direction.
 
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