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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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dpara said:
Are runes just a simplification of what Grungi initially started "runelore" at, like "words to writing poems" ?

..that madlad.

Kinda makes sense that magic would work better with poetry than COBOL.
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Hmm. Interesting though. If my High Elf knowledge isn't failing me then that's also how their magical script works. And we know both descend from the Old One's script.

Wait. Is that one of the reasons why Runesmiths chant? Not just as an instruction, but as a degraded form of the story each rune represents. They can't do the meaning of the poem, but can use it's rhythm?
 
Flipping heck. 5 Runes and 3 Mrunes among it.
soulcake said:
All you know is that Grungni, and most likely Thungni, can do with Gromril what you nor any other Runesmith can do even with the aid of Adamant.
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Gonna be awkward brining this up with the Brotherhood

I'm going to offer an initial hypothesis that the way the runes flow into each other is part of the secret. Maybe it creates a more smooth flow with fewer concentrations that might damage the material. However fuck this throws more than a few of our theories out of whack.

E: Also in regards to the question: "Does the perfect runelord use the normal runes everyone else does (because they're just better), or do they use a variant that does specifically what they want?" it seems that Grungni leans towards the later.
 
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With how the Albion sword (or stuff that Snorri can learn from it) is related to what Snorri can see from the Axe. I really, really, hope in the upcoming joint Dawi-Elven campaign against the Fimir we'll end up going to Albion. Old One knowledge or at least derivatives from it that the Albion humans have is probably one of the keys in truly advancing Runecraft.
 
Okay, this is probably entirely the fact I'm poisoned as fuck by Morrowind, but I'm really looking at the Rikkenbaki and going "Is that the Fists of Rangadulf?"

Because it really "feels" like them.
 
Does Snorri even know what an Old One is? Bet he just thinks those are very very very very very Longbeards.

Or what those damn beardlings keep calling him behind his back. :V
 
abominable said:
Does Snorri even know what an Old One is? Bet he just thinks those are very very very very very Longbeards.

Or what those damn beardlings keep calling him behind his back. :V
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No one knows about them this side of an ocean I think. Which is a shame because that means their is nothing any dwarf can do about the Slann deciding to play jig-saw puzzle with continental plates.
 
SuperHeavy said:
No one knows about them this side of an ocean I think. Which is a shame because that means their is nothing any dwarf can do about the Slann deciding to play jig-saw puzzle with continental plates.
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We've been told OOC that there's nothing Snorri can do about Mazdamundi's BS even if he somehow found out IC ahead of time. There's plenty of things we can do to mitigate the damage ahead of time, at least. This new geomancy connection is actually pretty promising; if runecraft advanced enough to begin to muddle into geomancy, is it possible that we could begin to geomantically ward the Karaz Ankor against intrusions? Even if the earthquakes happen, that could seriously hinder the Greenskin/Skaven invasions afterward.
 
SuspiciousBird said:
possible that we could begin to geomantically ward the Karaz Ankor against intrusions? Even if the earthquakes happen, that could seriously hinder the Greenskin/Skaven invasions afterward.
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Nope. The Slann (Whetever Quex or Mazdamundi, whichever you believe to be perpetrator) would just break through anyway. But there has been talks of teleportation. Hell, Snorri Whitebeard´s gear gave us an inkling as to how to go about it. that could at least mitigate the radiosilence the Dwarfs got when Underway inevitably shatters.
 
it not really the Slann tectonic plate moving that we need to really worry about

it the fucking skaven with their drill hitting a fault line at the same fucking time as the Slann that cause all this mess and let those fucking rat get into the tunnel network along with the orc
 
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Even if the earthquakes happen, that could seriously hinder the Greenskin/Skaven invasions afterward.
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We already have the underway both expanded and much better defended thanks to Ancestor intervention and an existing breach warning everyone. Still avoiding the entire network shattering along with some of the deeps of the oldest Holds would have been great even if it was never in the cards. Ideally we get a runic communication system, even a basic telegraph analog, spread among as many rune bases as possible.
 
Z000 said:
it not really the Slann tectonic plate moving that we need to really worry about

it the fucking skaven with their drill hitting a fault line at the same fucking time as the Slann that cause all this mess and let those fucking rat get into the tunnel network along with the orc
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It's not even just that. It's that the mess with the Slaan, the Skaven, and the underway invasion hit when the dwarves had just exhausted themselves with the War of the Beard.
 
NSMS said:
It's not even just that. It's that the mess with the Slaan, the Skaven, and the underway invasion hit when the dwarves had just exhausted themselves with the War of the Beard.
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well, odd are we can't stop Malekith from shoving his head further up his ass and then unscrewing his neck from his head

unless us making a better defended north mean he not gonna find that circlet and do the very stupid thing of putting an extremely obvious Chaos artifact on his head
 
... I hope Snorri's teleportation method (if/when we get to that) in the future utilizes a cloak swish to cover his entire form before disappearing behind it. That, or do what the Mammoth did and cause a Whiteout with a minor snowstorm to disappear from sight.
 
Z000 said:
well, odd are we can't stop Malekith from shoving his head further up his ass and then unscrewing his neck from his head
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A much different political scene a much more populated North will with any luck have the up and coming elven prince looking in different places. If nothing else if he would see whole cities of people telling him going any further is a terrible idea.
 
I dont think the iron circlet was obviously chaos, but something dosent need to be chaos to be real nasty.

The war of the beard is really the one thing we can potentially stop or at least mitigate, and then things look better already.

The dwarves really only ended up in the bad situation they are in WHF "present" because all these disaster hit rapidly one after the other shortly past the end of a centuries long all out war, and then Skaven, Greenskins, chaos and various other bits have been non-stop grinding away at them for millennia to stop the from ever consolidating or rebuilding.
 
NSMS said:
It's not even just that. It's that the mess with the Slaan, the Skaven, and the underway invasion hit when the dwarves had just exhausted themselves with the War of the Beard.
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Plus the Slann/skaven induced vulcanism screwed with the climate, causing the dwarves' surface crops to fail and their herds to die, along with pushing the greenskins to migrate west as their territory in the Dark Lands were particularly hard hit.
 
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After connecting the sword to the axe, I imagine a conversation between two Slann once Snorri discovers existence of Old One lore and learns that Lizardmen know quite a fair bit about it:

Slann 1: I had an awful nightmare.
Slann 2: Frequent occurence in a world so far from the Great Plan.
Slann 1: There was a dawi. Old and grumbly.
Slann 2: And there is water, and it is quite wet.
Slann 1: He had a question. A bunch of questions. So many questions. Never ending stream of grumbly questions.
Slann 2: As do we, yet most of them elude us still.
Slann 1: He's heading in our direction right now.
Slann 2: What.
Slann 1: He's running towards us.
Slann 2: There... there is an ocean between the closest dawi settlement and our temple cities.
Slann 1: He's running through the bottom of the ocean.
Slann 2: Is... where is he heading, exactly. Maybe Grum'bil will finally have something to focus his neuroses on-
Slann 1: He's heading towards us, brother.
Slann 2: ...
Slann 2: Say, we've never been to Naggaroth, were we? See, there was this tablet describing the atmospheric conditions required for the Great Plan...
 
I'm wondering if Windsight is also key to arranging the Runes so you can get more than three to combine without exploding; even if they couldn't interact with them safely any more than their children can, presumably the Ancestor Gods could (by virtue of being gods) see the flow of magic through the world.
 
The Sandman said:
I'm wondering if Windsight is also key to arranging the Runes so you can get more than three to combine without exploding; even if they couldn't interact with them safely any more than their children can, presumably the Ancestor Gods could (by virtue of being gods) see the flow of magic through the world.
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And perhaps more than just arrange the runes, adapt runes into custom forms to better fit with their neighbours.
 
How much do we need to worry about Runesmith secrets being scryed? I'm guessing Snorri's antimagic field makes him hard to scry directly but do we need wardstones for Khazagar?
 
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