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Is there not an information threadmark for the Brana? Feel like it would be useful to have, just spent a few minutes trying to find the names for all the different Windcallers. I don't there is one actually
Standing I guess. However you need to seperately add the Hearthguard Brana from their list.
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Institutions:

Places:
Drongkaraz, "The Stormpeak", Aerie of Kraka Drakk
: Standing 8, Favours 160
- Standing 5, Branakroki: Brana added to potential recruitment pool.
- Standing 7, Far-Reaching Fliers: Chance for Branakroki to aid retainer actions in the Far North.
- He who Rules Above/ King of the Sky, Ancestor of the Branakroki, Lord of Air: Standing 5
- He who Remembers/ Branzagazi, Scion of the Sky: Standing 4
- She who Calls the Furious Cold/ Blizzardwing, Stormcaller of Drongkaraz: Standing 7
Karazbinvarr, "Mountain by the Sea", Aerie near Kraka Ravnsvake: Standing 6
- He who Thinks/ Brangandazi, Scion of the Sky, Future Lord of Karazbinvarr: Standing 6
- She who's Beak Shines Darkly/ Ebonbeak, Princess Consort of He who Thinks: Standing 8
E:
x5 Branakroki, each counts as 2. Characters of Note:
- Nightfeather/He who is One with Darkness
- Amberclaw/She who's Talons Hold Amber[Ghur User] (Bloodhunter In-training)
- Rimesong/She who Sings Snow into Creation [Azyr User] (Stormcaller In-training)
- Emberplume/He who has Burning Wings
- Still Wing/ He who Stands Vigil
And Dolgi's Retainers as well maybe?
I don't think they're actuall Stormcallers just regular magic griffons?

Ironwing: A massive specimen of a Griffon comparable to the brood of the King of the Skies than most. Friend and ally to the Embermane, he wears the Skyguard Plate made for him, a set of armour so heavy that few others can wear it without being overly encumbered by the sheer weight.
Stormrider: Mate of Ironwing, a Branakroki of above-average size with a proclivity for wreathing herself in a halo of lightning and ice before falling upon her foe in a screaming dive. Wears a suit of Gromril Armour inspired by Stormwrath.
 
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We should make some sick Deetz for King in the Skies when we can tbh. Shame we only ever made the armor.
 
[X] [Name:] Write-in. No more than 3, preferably 2, syllables.
-[X] Izgrom (Brave Copper), The left hatchling with beaten Gromril spines and copper flecked eyes.
-[X] Zharrok (Cunning Fire), The middle hatchling, with some spines that look as if they were subjected to flames.
-[X] Grimgal (Harsh/Unyielding Gold), The right hatchling, larger than its siblings with shifting eyes.
 
It just occurred to me Menlinwen is going to have an interesting reaction to the fact that Snori decided to hatch those dragons. On the one hand it will be a confirmation that he has some kind of great reservoir of magic that he can tap for a deluge of power, but also she might start to suspect that under all those layers of grump Snori is a bit of a softy, enough to take the time and effort to hatch and raise dragons of all things in spite of his people's history with them being a good bit less friendly than the elves,. That suspicion will likely be confirmed when she sees said dragons climb all over both Snori and his daughter begging for treats.
 
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It just occurred to me Menlinwen is going to have an interesting reaction to the fact that Snori decided to hatch those dragons. On the one hand it will be a confirmation that he has some kind of great reservoir of magic that he can tap for a deluge of power, but also she might start to suspect that under all those layers of grump Snori is a bit of a softy, enough to take the time and effort to hatch and raise dragons of all things in spite of his people's history with them being a good bit less friendly than the elves,. Said suspicion will likely be confirmed when she sees said dragons climb all over both Snori and his dragons begging for treats.
lol, I've said before Menlinwen is probably getting a completely incorrect understanding of what's going on.
"Ah yes, the Runelord I was stay with was granted the rank of Burudin, which from context I think is a Runelord who is trusted to make a new branch of their version of the Tower of Hoeth. Its difficult to figure out whats going on while being careful that they don't think you're trying to steal secrets. But this process mostly involves creating a fort that swallowed up the surrounding village to protect the students and reshaped the local Karaks defences. Honestly I think the scorn Dwarves treat their juniors is overcompensation for how much they coddle them."
 
It just occurred to me Menlinwen is going to have an interesting reaction to the fact that Snori decided to hatch those dragons. On the one hand it will be a confirmation that he has some kind of great reservoir of magic that he can tap for a deluge of power, but also she might start to suspect that under all those layers of grump Snori is a bit of a softy, enough to take the time and effort to hatch and raise dragons of all things in spite of his people's history with them being a good bit less friendly than the elves,. Said suspicion will likely be confirmed when she sees said dragons climb all over both Snori and his dragons begging for treats.
--- The Anvil, apparently is, to no one's surprise, special though at least according to Menlinwen's ritual vision.
she already knows about the anvil
 
You mention the tower of Hoeth... but that's thousands of years in the future.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ulthuan doesn't have the concept of universities yet, and that this becomes something the Elves copy from the Dwarfs.
You aren't the first person to mention that but I don't really know the timeline and its a joke so I don't really care about about strict technical accuracy.
 
You aren't the first person to mention that but I don't really know the timeline and its a joke so I don't really care about about strict technical accuracy.
The second part is more interesting though.

The tower of Hoeth took Royal Patronage and a thousand years to make.

A bunch of archmages liking the idea and getting a headstart would be an interesting butterfly.
 
The second part is more interesting though.

The tower of Hoeth took Royal Patronage and a thousand years to make.

A bunch of archmages liking the idea and getting a headstart would be an interesting butterfly.
Ah sorry, I thought you were telling me to edit it to be factually accurate.
Honestly I'd need a bunch of elf lore guys to explain exactly what the tower does and why it was started to really imagine what might change.
 
The second part is more interesting though.

The tower of Hoeth took Royal Patronage and a thousand years to make.

A bunch of archmages liking the idea and getting a headstart would be an interesting butterfly.

Crazy that the Elves, in the midst of their second Golden Age, took like 1167 years to complete the Tower...
Pretty sure that's one location, which when fully staffed, even Archaon would have found impossible to breach.
 
Ah sorry, I thought you were telling me to edit it to be factually accurate.
Honestly I'd need a bunch of elf lore guys to explain exactly what the tower does and why it was started to really imagine what might change.
Bel-Korhardis the Scholar King started building it in -679 IC and it was finally completed in 497 IC. Bel-Korhardia was the Prince of Saphery, and wanted to build a monument to Hoeth, a kind of University, and a place to gather the lore of magic all at once. The Poor guy died the year after the tower was completed.
 
On second thoughts, Ulthuan still has Saphetion at the moment.

The original capital city of Saphery.

A flying city/centre of learning.

Another thing to blame Malekith for. /shakes fist.
 
I sort of suspect that lesser universities of magic exist in Ulthuan but they all sort of look like community colleges compared to the White Tower/Saphethion.

Also important to keep in mind that A. out of universe I am pretty sure the White Tower was given the long construction it was to make it seem more impressive and mythic and etc. and not to argue that the High Elves are bad at building things and B. That it began performing some functions even before it was complete, a community of Loremasters coalesced around its foundation in -290 IC for instance.
 
imagine spending another 950 years fortifying the Runeversity with even more defenses and runes? imagine how many grontis that can be made by runesmiths and lords that could possibly be donated to function as a standing guard force?
 
[X] [Name:] Write-in. No more than 3, preferably 2, syllables.
-[X] Izgrom (Brave Copper), The left hatchling with beaten Gromril spines and copper flecked eyes.
-[X] Zharrok (Cunning Fire), The middle hatchling, with some spines that look as if they were subjected to flames.
-[X] Grimgal (Harsh/Unyielding Gold), The right hatchling, larger than its siblings with shifting eyes.
 
imagine spending another 950 years fortifying the Runeversity with even more defenses and runes? imagine how many grontis that can be made by runesmiths and lords that could possibly be donated to function as a standing guard force?
With that much Defense I wouldn't be surprised if the chaos gods would have to focus their might on it to break it. They definitely could take it over, but unlike most places where once you get a couple armies of demons there the place is screwed, this would require several greater daemons, a non trivial investment for the chaos gods
 
Out of curiosity how would Snorri be rated as a warrior. For example if Snorri was naked armed only with steel axe or hammer would he be able to beat a 600 year old long beard warrior that was similarly armed and armoured.
 
imagine spending another 950 years fortifying the Runeversity with even more defenses and runes? imagine how many grontis that can be made by runesmiths and lords that could possibly be donated to function as a standing guard force?
You mean what Snorri is going to do anyway?

Snorri regularly upgraded the defences of his workshop, case in point the Statue of Iggun Frostbraids (after she died) with the Rune of Light Fright (invented by Fjolla).

Out of curiosity how would Snorri be rated as a warrior. For example if Snorri was naked armed only with steel axe or hammer would he be able to beat a 600 year old long beard warrior that was similarly armed and armoured.
That depends on the longbeard's profession.
A huskarl? No.
A blacksmith? Even odds
A lorekeeper? Yes

And if you remove the Eye of the Ancestors, he'd lose to the blacksmith (no depth perception), but still beat the lorekeeper. Snorri is tall for a dwarf and has muscles that the lorekeeper wouldn't.
 
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Out of curiosity how would Snorri be rated as a warrior. For example if Snorri was naked armed only with steel axe or hammer would he be able to beat a 600 year old long beard warrior that was similarly armed and armoured.

Well, Snorri is a Living Ancestor. He would just grumble and look at them with disapproval, which would make the 600 year olds shrivel and shrink into themselves.
 
Out of curiosity how would Snorri be rated as a warrior. For example if Snorri was naked armed only with steel axe or hammer would he be able to beat a 600 year old long beard warrior that was similarly armed and armoured.
Yes.

You mean what Snorri is going to do anyway?

Snorri regularly upgraded the defences of his workshop, case in point the Statue of Iggun Frostbraids (after she died) with the Rune of Light Fright (invented by Fjolla).


That depends on the longbeard's profession.
A huskarl? No.
A blacksmith? Even odds
A lorekeeper? Yes

And if you remove the Eye of the Ancestors, he'd lose to the blacksmith (no depth perception), but still beat the lorekeeper. Snorri is tall for a dwarf and has muscles that the lorekeeper wouldn't.
Narratively the loss of depth perception is going to be outweighed by his sheer age and skill as a millennial old figure who's been fighting most of his life, compared to the 600 year old warrior for most of their much shorter life.

If we use the combat stats as an argument Snorri would be down to 20 Base Skill + 15 Karugromthi (his age) = +35 vs whatever the 600 year old has to offer. And the 600 year old isn't matching that total unless he's a genuine genius at fighting.
 
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