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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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EVA-Saiyajin said:
Hmm...is Snorri Whitebeard considered an Ancestor @soulcake ?
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His parents are still kicking it around in his clan. He might be considered an elder of his clan, but if his parents are still kicking around doing old dwarf grumbling I can't imagine Snorri would accept being an Ancestor. Elder, sure, not ancestor just yet. Maybe if he hits his first millennium.


EVA-Saiyajin said:
Snorri Whitebeard is the eldest child of Grungni and Valaya.
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Ah, oops. Never mind then.
 
Harried said:
@soulcake , could I ask a couple clarifying questions:
  1. Is the Trollslayer effect active in all of our runeworks, and does it's effect stack?
  2. Did we end up repairing our armour, or was it beyond our skills to salvage?
Apologies if either of these have been asked before.
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soulcake said:
ALso yes, trollbane procs on everything youve made since getting it, I dont really feel the need to put it on everything unless its something dedicated to killing like Trollslayer.
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There's this.
 
veekie said:
Hmm,I'm a little tempted to take 2 actions on it to proc some overflow into murdermaze. No need to go all-in, but like...the deathtraps are neat but can be overwhelmed by numbers, the current defenses are good for staving off an initial shock by anything that has morale, but a sustained press of a rabid horde type opponent would overwhelm it. It needs some extra choke points and sealing bulkheads.
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Dude, the QM himself is lampshading how ridiculous people's obsession with digging a freaking hole is. The guy writing the damn story is calling people out on it. Meaning that it's freaking fine already and even outright stated that overflows don't really gain much after point. So after a point it's just wasting actions.

Which i'm really damn glad about since I am absolutely sick with people's obsession with defenses in regards to digging a freaking hole. I trust the Dwarfs to get it right themselves because as mentioned we are not the only Dwarfs around and there are people whose job it literally to do this thing.

At this point I'm pretty much praying that Soulcake never adds anymore defense choices because they are just seriously ruining the quest for me. Which is really not helped that it's obviously heavily influenced by insane amounts of meta gaming to the point of cheese.
 
In regards to the hole defense thing we should consider short term problems much more. Yeah it might be nice for the hold have better anti-skaven defenses thousands of years from now, but we kind of have daemon armies to worry about that apparently never breached the tunnels in canon. We've got more useful stuff to do right now.
fictionfan said:
He isn't even the oldest person in the hold. It is the golden age standards are higher.
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Our character is Snorri Klausson, not Whitebeard. The other elders on the council call Klausson a beardling, so he's got centuries to go.

Whitebeard though should be older than Smednir, Thungni, and possibly Morgrim. He doesn't seem to be worshiped as a god, so maybe he's the runt of the family.
 
I am now imagining a troll freaking out at the sight of a toy in the hands of a dwarf child and fleeing the scene.

Would that make a good omake?
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
And yet, Smednir, Thungni, and Morgrim are Ancestors.
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Yeah, that's my bad. Saw Snorri and progressed from there as if you were talking about the PC. My bad.

Enthusiast#117 said:
I am now imagining a troll freaking out at the sight of a toy in the hands of a dwarf child and fleeing the scene.

Would that make a good omake?
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If that's what you wanna write I won't naysay you. Hell, I'd say a decent chunk of the voters would enjoy it if you feel like writing it.
 
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Zefferen said:
Whitebeard though should be older than Smednir, Thungni, and possibly Morgrim. He doesn't seem to be worshiped as a god, so maybe he's the runt of the family.
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It may be connected to the reason Snorri is even now ruling as High King as opposed to Grungni. Maybe he was the only one of the first two generations able to not get so utterly obsessed with an aspect such that he ends up like Grimnir or Thungni. The only Ancestor able to act, to rule, as a mortal. Or perhaps he gave up Ancestor Godhood to be High King where his family could not.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
It may be connected to the reason Snorri is even now ruling as High King as opposed to Grungni. Maybe he was the only one of the first two generations able to not get so utterly obsessed with an aspect such that he ends up like Grimnir or Thungni. The only Ancestor able to act, to rule, as a mortal. Or perhaps he gave up Ancestor Godhood to be High King where his family could not.
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Speaking from a warp entity perspective, he'd end up as the god of dwarf kings, specifically dwarf high kings. Dunno that there's enough of those around to really make him a proper god.

There's also the possibility that he chose not to be an Ancestor God to that the office of High King would actually continue and not be relegated to something only a god can do.
 
Xantalos said:
Speaking from a warp entity perspective, he'd end up as the god of dwarf kings, specifically dwarf high kings. Dunno that there's enough of those around to really make him a proper god.

There's also the possibility that he chose not to be an Ancestor God to that the office of High King would actually continue and not be relegated to something only a god can do.
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Mmm, he did die of natural causes.
 
Honestly, considering the feats of his parents, I really want to see how bullshit Snorri Whitebeard can be when it comes to fighting and ruling.
 
Nix's Warden said:
Honestly, considering the feats of his parents, I really want to see how bullshit Snorri Whitebeard can be when it comes to fighting and ruling.
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No, just no. This is a Runelord quest, not a ruler quest. There are literally dozens upon dozens of those quests at a time on this site alone. If people want to play a ruler they should just go on those quests instead.
 
Red Bovine said:
No, just no. This is a Runelord quest, not a ruler quest. There are literally dozens upon dozens of those quests at a time on this site alone. If people want to play a ruler they should just go on those quests instead.
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hes talking about the person you were named after, Snorri whitebeard, first high king of the dwarfs, not Snorri klausson the MC of this quest.

Harried said:
Did we end up repairing our armour, or was it beyond our skills to salvage?
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yeh you fixed it.
 
What do you guys think the chances are of Grimnir 'surviving' the incursion in this reality?

I'd like to see it, but to be honest I'm not really sure why exactly he invaded the wastes, so I haven't got a clue what parameters would need to change for his decision to.
 
Harried said:
What do you guys think the chances are of Grimnir 'surviving' the incursion in this reality?

I'd like to see it, but to be honest I'm not really sure why exactly he invaded the wastes, so I haven't got a clue what parameters would need to change for his decision to.
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Extremely low to non-existent honestly. One, because the GM said so. Two...well, honestly it's just one.
 
Harried said:
What do you guys think the chances are of Grimnir 'surviving' the incursion in this reality?

I'd like to see it, but to be honest I'm not really sure why exactly he invaded the wastes, so I haven't got a clue what parameters would need to change for his decision to.
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From memory he basically made the first Slayer Pilgrimage north after something happened. He just went North to kill chaos shits. That's really all we know about it. Later on dishonoured dwarves do what he did, ritually shaving themselves and getting the runes put on and such, bringing about the Slayer tradition.
 
Red Bovine said:
At this point I'm pretty much praying that Soulcake never adds anymore defense choices because they are just seriously ruining the quest for me. Which is really not helped that it's obviously heavily influenced by insane amounts of meta gaming to the point of cheese
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Will point out that they aren't just meta gaming, I want to put more actions to overcomplete it to get some approval from Grimnir when he comes through, I hope for it at least, I just want more than the baseline Very good I want Incredibly good, which the Ancestor god won't grumble at us too much for. I just like overdoing big actions to make them the best they can be, it's fun for me to read, at least. Please don't assume every action you don't like is motivated by metagaming :D
 
Harried said:
What do you guys think the chances are of Grimnir 'surviving' the incursion in this reality?

I'd like to see it, but to be honest I'm not really sure why exactly he invaded the wastes, so I haven't got a clue what parameters would need to change for his decision to.
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He learned from Caledor the Dragontamer's insight about the Chaos Gate, and I imagine realizing the Dwarves couldn't win an endless war, decided to go straight for the source.
 
The world would drown in Daemons. Because that's what Grimnir is doing. Killing a never ending tide of daemons before they can get more than a couple dozen meters from the Warp gate opening he guards. He never died after all he's still there fighting and killing Daemons every second of every day.

The only way he 'survives' is if he doesnt do that. Heck technically even in Cannon he could come back any time he felt like stopping. Not like the Daemons would stop him. But he just keeps on going.
 
Red Bovine said:
Dude, the QM himself is lampshading how ridiculous people's obsession with digging a freaking hole is. The guy writing the damn story is calling people out on it. Meaning that it's freaking fine already and even outright stated that overflows don't really gain much after point. So after a point it's just wasting actions.

Which i'm really damn glad about since I am absolutely sick with people's obsession with defenses in regards to digging a freaking hole. I trust the Dwarfs to get it right themselves because as mentioned we are not the only Dwarfs around and there are people whose job it literally to do this thing.

At this point I'm pretty much praying that Soulcake never adds anymore defense choices because they are just seriously ruining the quest for me. Which is really not helped that it's obviously heavily influenced by insane amounts of meta gaming to the point of cheese.
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Wrong, the QM jokingly said that. He outright admitted that.
 
Weirdo said:
Will point out that they aren't just meta gaming, I want to put more actions to overcomplete it to get some approval from Grimnir when he comes through, I hope for it at least, I just want more than the baseline Very good I want Incredibly good, which the Ancestor god won't grumble at us too much for. I just like overdoing big actions to make them the best they can be, it's fun for me to read, at least. Please don't assume every action you don't like is motivated by metagaming
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The problem is that the players here do meta game to an insane degree and the main reason that people want to work on defenses so much is solely due to meta knowledge of what happens in the future. Hell, we have people constantly try to come up with new ways to up the defenses. We even had someone try to meta game to have the new Golem we made to avoid the Chaos dwarfs from being made. Throw in that people keep constantly trying to justify spending a ton of actions on defenses including the gate and tunnel and it's pretty hard to believe that any action in regards to defenses aren't influenced by people knowing what is going to happen in the future.

Also how many times does it need to be said that Snorri is not only not the only Dwarf working on the tunnel but there are actually dwarfs whose jobs it is to work on it. Not to mention that Dwarfs being perfectionists means that the Tunnel is going to be made to the best of their ability and I'm not arrogant to to assume that they can't also do a good job. We already done most of the work and with the Throng coming up rather we do some research since research improves our ability to make stuff that would also help the hold instead of doing the equivalent of a vanity project considering the QM did mention that there are limits to overflows.
 
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