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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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Even though I don't think Mountainsouled + T4 heart would manage the deep magic connection alone, I do think Barak Azamar being used in the forging will give it that kick to do so.
 
Productivity like No Other -> Peerless Production: Every 2 request actions add 1 free action's worth of progress. If 3 request actions, instead add 2 free actions. Every input request action has a 40% chance to proc another action, does not proc on free actions.
Ok, I swear this has always been 50% but the quest clearly shows that it was 40% and then was upgraded to 50% alongside the output for three input actions when we turned one thousand. Am I going crazy? I feel like I must be wrong but I strongly remember otherwise.

EDIT: Well there clearly were DC 60s to proc this trait. It definitely was 40%.
 
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Could we create gear that uses stray lightning from our little storm to powerup our allies?
Hmmm. Maybe.

I believe a Banner with the (Banner form) Master Rune of Thunderbolts + Spelleating + Warding may provide something like this. Going through the Runes;

-Master Rune of Thunderbolts will sheathe the formation in an aura/field of lightning bolts, mainly improving their attacks and likely providing them with the ability to shoot small lightning bolts as well.

-The Rune of Spelleating is what lets this whole banner feed on the Storm, by taking in the magic and spreading it to the other Runes in the combo.

-The Rune of Warding as its natural function creates protective barriers, often paired with Spelleating and Spellbreaking in order to fuel said barriers.

In this selection of runes, Spelleating feeds upon the storm and through that enhances Warding and Thunderbolts. Thunderbolts provides the elemental tuning for the combo, with Warding shifting it to be defensively oriented. In combination I expect they'd create a defensive Thunderfield fed by the Storm similar to the Hailmantle combo on the Drake's Mantle used by Gimli. A whirling field of lightning and static that lashes out to strike nearby foes automatically.
 
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@soulcake Narratively speaking, how does the limitation of three runes per object work on gigantic objects like the abovementioned gronti?

Given this gronti is literally multiple orders of magnitude larger than any Gronti previously made of Gromril?
We have no specific examples probably the same three rune limit.

It probably has nothing to do with size, but rather total power and interactions of power in individual runes.
Any more than 3 runes results in too much power to be contained by those runes alongside with unstable and unpredictable and chaotically changing power interactions with the runes, that cannot be contained by any known material. And, no known combination of 4 or more runes appears exempt.
So all attempts end up with the runes exploding or a cascading reaction causing the whole item to disintegrate, or whatever.

I mean, runes are heavily metaphysical and powered by magic. Why should we expect something mundane like the size of the item to be a factor of any major relevance?
 
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Well, this quest has gone places since I stopped having time/energy to watch it. Well worth the reread.

Amazing work.
 
... I will say, there is a sad lack of lesbians. or gay men, thinking about it.

Warhammer lore may say Dwarves don't do that, IDK. The 3-1 gender ratio means lesbians may sorta be off the table from a racial survival standpoint, which became societal. Or not. I don't know lore. I just know I'm gay.
 
I just know I'm gay.
Just because it doesn't happen doesn't mean it isn't there (I think there was WoQM somewhere in the thread about this topic). It's just so far down the list of priorities to use precious word count on that it hopefully will never come up.

Seriously. There are so many things more interesting things to dive into in drawf culture, and that is just including the 'present' times. There are still the past, the 'before Ancestors' past, the ever shifting future, the North's quirky magical nature, the Brana, the Elgi, the Mammoth, the whatever-the-hell caused-Snorri-to-be-the-stated-reason-for-the permadeath-of-a-demon, all the other research topics available, THE GLITTERING REALM, etc. etc.

And all that isn't even including the ridiculously rich world RUNES. Honestly, I could have just mentioned Runes as the reason and that would have been enough for a decent portion of the reader base.
 
There are so many things more interesting things to dive into in drawf culture, and that is just including the 'present' times.
People have different priorities at the end of the day. Shadowcatcher's point is as valid as anyone elses given it's made in good faith. Not to put you down, nor do I think you even mean anything bad about it, I'd just like to point that out. Also I do appreciate that I seem to have made an interesting enough setting for you to think about!

... I will say, there is a sad lack of lesbians. or gay men, thinking about it.
Mostly Im touching romance with a 10 foot pole. It took 2 years for me to write a vote that even allows for the possibility of Romance. Snorri's a widower and I think a lot of my writing about his feelings over his wife is a pretty bog standard, if extreme, example of holding the torch. Same thing with Dolgi and Jorri's nuclear family, and Fjolla's quiet relationship with Joll really. I'm not against giving my thoughts on how being gay would work for Dwarfs, though I haven't thought about it much beyond the generalities

The basics of it are pretty similar to any Dwarf relationship out of wedlock in my mind though.
- keep it hush, hush more because Dwarfs in general are pretty private about intimacy.
- no one's gonna give a hoot what your sexuality is as long as it doesn't impede on your/the Clan/the Hold's honour or your ability to do your duty.
- as a communal society in general, giving someone grief over it would probably be seen as unnecessary and poor form. A positive spin to it could be that given how familial relationships are pretty overriding in Dwarf Culture, a Dwarf would probably beat the ever-living crap out of someone for being a bigot to their relative over their orientation like they would whenever someone insults a member of their Clan. I can also see bad spins to it, but hell why would I want to write that? Life's already tough enough and this is ultimately a story based on a universe made up to justify armies of little plastic fellas fighting each other.
- In my mind I've got the same thoughts as Cubicle 7 when they added that "Don't judge whom someone loves," stricture to the Cult of Rhya in 4th edition WFRPG, but for the Cult of Valaya. If admittedly less important because Romance doesn't seem to be a big deal to Dwarfs, politically and religiously speaking I suppose.

How that works for marriage is that..well idk really. Marriage is definitely more of a duty to create children for Dwarfs for pretty obvious reasons, not that romance isn't there or not considered of course. Quite literally a Dwarf woman's favour is seen as a priceless treasure for a suitor and the woman in question has a supreme veto over who they end up marrying according to 1st ed Stone and Steel. Going off topic, I must say there's a real interesting mix of patriarchal and matriarchal tendencies in Dwarf culture for 1st ed in general really. Most official power structures were male-dominated/only and yet it's clear if you read into it that Dwarf women have a very large amount of soft power and even hard power should they choose to exercise it.

Uh anyway, tldr: I don't even really trust myself to do a cis romance without falling into stereotyping, let alone a gay or lesbian one. Don't really wanna bungle it up either really, since I'd feel real bad and there are potential consequences if the stereotypes I could end up using were harmful or propagated misinformation about LGBTQ+ people.
 
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totally fair! I actually really love how little romance there is, TBH. Snorri is a grieving widower, and that's an absolutely massive part of his character. Defining, even.

I was mostly just curious, not Snorri-related curious, but like... there's a lot of background characters, and I hadn't noticed any gay stuffs, though by no means did that mean there wasn't any. I was in many ways more curious about the threads view on these things & if there was lore I was unaware of, since I don't actually know much about the Warhammer lore.
 
... I will say, there is a sad lack of lesbians. or gay men, thinking about it.

Warhammer lore may say Dwarves don't do that, IDK. The 3-1 gender ratio means lesbians may sorta be off the table from a racial survival standpoint, which became societal. Or not. I don't know lore. I just know I'm gay.
This valentine's day post has an implied one.
There's also a w.o.g.about it under informational.

But Snorri is a widower hermit who happens to be straight.
In 700k words there was one instance of "oh hey a pretty lady" thought and even then Snorri shut it down immediately.

We know they are accepted (from Wog)... But it's also pretty far out of Snorri's wheelhouse (and soulcake's).

Aaand Yorri'd by soulcake
 
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totally fair! I actually really love how little romance there is, TBH. Snorri is a grieving widower, and that's an absolutely massive part of his character. Defining, even.

I was mostly just curious, not Snorri-related curious, but like... there's a lot of background characters, and I hadn't noticed any gay stuffs, though by no means did that mean there wasn't any. I was in many ways more curious about the threads view on these things & if there was lore I was unaware of, since I don't actually know much about the Warhammer lore.
We really don't shit about most of the background characters romance lives though. The royals get married and thats probably part of their duty, two of our five apprentices have had a relationship as far as we can tell, about all we know about Snerra's love life is that her father does fend off a lot of suitors for her and that we've never seen her show any interest.
Sneeras father and mother must be married.

The vast majority of people we just don't know about. And that means people are free to omake it.
 
Which one do you read that way? Lorna and Valma?
EDIT: Just curious, to be clear; I didn't catch anything, but I'm kinda a disaster lesbian.
Well, that's the only one that fits the bill, i think.
You could say they're just two friends with a book club, where they discuss romance novels... On valentines day. But the more natural conclusion is that soulcake ships them :V.

Jargrim and Terrorbeak are both males, and Terrorbeak has a mate and offspring (so i assume the mate is female), which makes this a bromance, imo.
Jargrim is representation for single people.

Then we have what i assume to be heterosexual couples (new, young(ish) and old) with Fjolla/Joll, Dolgi/Klorah and Otrek/Girda

And then you have Snorri, for loves lost.
 
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I swear if this quest gets derailed/cancelled because of IRL gender politics...:o
Yeah best keep the romance to a back drop. Legolas/Laqualys and Gimli jokes aside.
This came out of nowhere.

soulcakes contributed so theres some interest on his part.
This was a reasonable critique and shadowwatcher accepted the response.
Every comment has been directly about characters of the quest.

What on earth made you think there was a danger of being cancelled or derailed.
 
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This came out of nowhere.

soulcakes contributed so theres some interest on his part.
This was a critique and shadowwatcher accepted the response.
Every comment has been directly about characters of the quest.

What on earth made you think there was a danger of being cancelled or derailed.
Because it always comes out of nowhere. It's like some weird ghost or monster that abducts stories and TV shows out of nowhere and then the controversy that follows makes it annoying for people which detracts from the overall experience, by either stifling the author/creator or forcing unwanted or unnecessary changes. Sometimes it's good. But other times it saps creativity or interest because of how the pressure doesn't allow for subtle implementation.

It's pretty frustrating as a consumer to watch something good forced to shoehorn in an unnecessary addition because of external factors.
 
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My take is that romance is boring and Runes are interesting. But that's an ace person talking, and the only romance I ever got invested in was between an angel and a boogieman.
On-topic, I wonder if the piece of Hashut that the Fimir have enslaved (assuming I'm reading that part right) will recognize Snorri and go after him directly for stopping his ascension and killing his priest?
 
My take is that romance is boring and Runes are interesting. But that's an ace person talking, and the only romance I ever got invested in was between an angel and a boogieman.
On-topic, I wonder if the piece of Hashut that the Fimir have enslaved (assuming I'm reading that part right) will recognize Snorri and go after him directly for stopping his ascension and killing his priest?
It depends if they're more mad about Snorri stopping that or the Fimir binding them.

Daemons do not like being bound.

Like, at all.

It means they're weak, and Chaos HATES being weak in appearance to others no matter what. It gets you enslaved.
 
My take is that romance is boring and Runes are interesting. But that's an ace person talking, and the only romance I ever got invested in was between an angel and a boogieman.
On-topic, I wonder if the piece of Hashut that the Fimir have enslaved (assuming I'm reading that part right) will recognize Snorri and go after him directly for stopping his ascension and killing his priest?
That'd be a fun rumble. The fimir have a Plan and then Ole Bogey Horns sees Snorri and its like an Instant Death Cage Match just got declared. Screw the Plan, he's got a dwarf to kill.
 
The question is, is the fragment smart enough to realize when it's outmatched?

Last time we had a fragment which we could beat or stall, depending on the rolls.

This time we have more equipment, and Hashut is probably weaker as a whole, cos Gazul permakilled the last shard.
 
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